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		<title>By: Pasha Saleem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pasha Saleem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharifs were punished for their uncondional support for Lawyers movement.
Its an open fact now that Sharifs wer only punished by the Zardari for their unconditonal support for the Lwerys . the political pundits sees this move as a last weapon by the PPP against Sharifs. Now the London Jugadhri has also joined him, both have one commonality i.e. how to loot Pakistan through their agents.One is doing the same business while in Pakistan and othe other is making his fortuned through his nazim and town nazimeens. the survival of MQM lies in Local Government system and zardari has supported them by not abolishing the system.IN all departments (local Government) in the name of development, projects have been completed at exorbitant costs, all these low quality fly overs and rodas , bridges and other water supply projects have been awarded to their favourites without bidding and due process by negotiating the bid prices, so haq parats have every right to loot this nationa for their foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharifs were punished for their uncondional support for Lawyers movement.<br />
Its an open fact now that Sharifs wer only punished by the Zardari for their unconditonal support for the Lwerys . the political pundits sees this move as a last weapon by the PPP against Sharifs. Now the London Jugadhri has also joined him, both have one commonality i.e. how to loot Pakistan through their agents.One is doing the same business while in Pakistan and othe other is making his fortuned through his nazim and town nazimeens. the survival of MQM lies in Local Government system and zardari has supported them by not abolishing the system.IN all departments (local Government) in the name of development, projects have been completed at exorbitant costs, all these low quality fly overs and rodas , bridges and other water supply projects have been awarded to their favourites without bidding and due process by negotiating the bid prices, so haq parats have every right to loot this nationa for their foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9
"maturity" "sagacity" "being associated with" "Sharifs" - Good idea! No matter how sadly far from truth. 

Remember, the Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1997 November and its then Chief Justice Syed Sajjad Ali Shah?

Remember, Najam Sethi?

Remember, Jang Group and Mir Jameel Ur Rehman and Nawaz Government?

Remember, Husain Haqqani ?

Remember, Governor Rule in Sindh ? (and its duration of 8 months while the constitution prohibits it beyond 6 months, remember?).

Rememeber, the conversation of Law Minister Khalid Anwer of Nawaz Government with Lahore Court's Justice Qayum (demanding a decision against Benazir) ?

The above is far from desireable for anyone in any public office in any civilized country. Must we continue supporting such manipulators of our sentiments, such agitators. Do the people have any other rights in a democratic society such as clean water, three square meals, a job to earn a decent and honest living, access to some education? Or have we collectively forefeited all such human rights and allowed these gangsters to use us and manipulate us for their God forsaken agendas. Enough is enough - THEY ALL MUST GO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9<br />
&#8220;maturity&#8221; &#8220;sagacity&#8221; &#8220;being associated with&#8221; &#8220;Sharifs&#8221; - Good idea! No matter how sadly far from truth. </p>
<p>Remember, the Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1997 November and its then Chief Justice Syed Sajjad Ali Shah?</p>
<p>Remember, Najam Sethi?</p>
<p>Remember, Jang Group and Mir Jameel Ur Rehman and Nawaz Government?</p>
<p>Remember, Husain Haqqani ?</p>
<p>Remember, Governor Rule in Sindh ? (and its duration of 8 months while the constitution prohibits it beyond 6 months, remember?).</p>
<p>Rememeber, the conversation of Law Minister Khalid Anwer of Nawaz Government with Lahore Court&#8217;s Justice Qayum (demanding a decision against Benazir) ?</p>
<p>The above is far from desireable for anyone in any public office in any civilized country. Must we continue supporting such manipulators of our sentiments, such agitators. Do the people have any other rights in a democratic society such as clean water, three square meals, a job to earn a decent and honest living, access to some education? Or have we collectively forefeited all such human rights and allowed these gangsters to use us and manipulate us for their God forsaken agendas. Enough is enough - THEY ALL MUST GO!</p>
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		<title>By: Khadija</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khadija</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: Nawaz very clearly said people had the right to angry, street violence to express their views and that he couldn't stop them.
that's just for setting the record straight.
will call for two quick points... for anyone with a broader understanding of world politics knows exactly how international heavyweights dictate domestic politics. had the Sharifs shown any of the maturity and sagacity that is being associated with them, they would've realized that this political chaos is exactly what was expected on the other side by those watching carefully. this was exactly the moment to have seized the opportunity for the stability of Pakistan. our history is fraught with extraordinary circumstances.. coups, murders and for the last decade, terrorism. desperate times call for desperate measures. we don't have ideal leaders nor ideal circumstances. both call for extraordinaty patience, broader understanding and comprehesive accomodation with only one goal in mind - the survival and stability of Pakistan above all individuals, parties and politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: Nawaz very clearly said people had the right to angry, street violence to express their views and that he couldn&#8217;t stop them.<br />
that&#8217;s just for setting the record straight.<br />
will call for two quick points&#8230; for anyone with a broader understanding of world politics knows exactly how international heavyweights dictate domestic politics. had the Sharifs shown any of the maturity and sagacity that is being associated with them, they would&#8217;ve realized that this political chaos is exactly what was expected on the other side by those watching carefully. this was exactly the moment to have seized the opportunity for the stability of Pakistan. our history is fraught with extraordinary circumstances.. coups, murders and for the last decade, terrorism. desperate times call for desperate measures. we don&#8217;t have ideal leaders nor ideal circumstances. both call for extraordinaty patience, broader understanding and comprehesive accomodation with only one goal in mind - the survival and stability of Pakistan above all individuals, parties and politics.</p>
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		<title>By: yaseen ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaseen ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one wonders when there was National reconciliation?, If BB was not killed,that would have a different ball game but Zardari is not illegible at all to lead the Nation even his own Party which BB never allowed him to do through out her life time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one wonders when there was National reconciliation?, If BB was not killed,that would have a different ball game but Zardari is not illegible at all to lead the Nation even his own Party which BB never allowed him to do through out her life time.</p>
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		<title>By: Haider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nazia that Zardari and his closest cronies like Rahman Malik are un-elected people with a criminal history. Most of them beneficiaries of the NRO. There is a saying that if character is lost, everything is lost. Everyone in Pakistan knows about Zardari's history. Pakistani courts can be biased, but the not the courts of Switzerland or UK, as these are free societies unlike ours'. These people were already convicted by foreign courts, and a large number of cases ares still pending against them. This is why they had to seek shelter under the umbrella of the notorious NRO.

Mr. Zardari and his associates, who have never been directly elected by the people, who looted and plundered our country in the past and against whom there is also substantial evidence in this regard are now absolved of all their past sins and wrongdoings, thanks to the NRO. Whereas the genuinely elected/popular leaders are declared ineligible for holding public office, by a puppet kangaroo court, on directives from Mr. Zardari, merely because these leaders stick to their principles on national issues and stand by the commitments they made to the people who elected them. Everyone knows that the Plane Hijacking Case on the basis of which these leaders have been disqualified was a farce. In contrast, the beneficiaries of the NRO have far serious cases of corruption against them. And what is Zardari's character? He made committments to the nation, on TV and then backed out completely.

Of course Nawaz Sharif was no angel when he was in power, and there were instances of wrongdoing during Sharif’s time in power, such as victimization of opponents through the notorious Ehtesab Bureau, gagging of print media, especially the standoff with the Jang Group, but let us also remember that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who was the greatest leader after Quaid-e-Azam, was also accused of such practices during his term in office. But Mian Sahab’s 7 years in exile have made him realize his wrongdoings and he has now turned into a more mature political leader. 

There is not a single case of embezzlement or corruption against the Sharifs. The truth is that Nawaz Sharif is a leader whom the people trust, and who’s sincerety to the country cannot be doubted for a second. He is respected not only at national level but also internationally. After the martyrdom of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif is the only leader on our national horizon, who has a vision for the prosperity of our country, our people. I’m afraid, the same can never be said about Mr. Zardari.

After all what was the crime of Mian Shahbaz Sharif for which he was disqualified? Is subsidizing bread for the poor a crime? Is the provision of free medicines to the poor a crime? Is selfless public service a crime? These are the questions which arise in the minds of the people of Punjab.

No doubt that the present government must complete its 5 year term, which is vital for democracy.But, the Pakistani people are not fool. They know who is standing by their committments and who is not. The people know well who the crooks are and who are the heroes. And Insha-Allah in the next elections, PML will emerge as the largest political power in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nazia that Zardari and his closest cronies like Rahman Malik are un-elected people with a criminal history. Most of them beneficiaries of the NRO. There is a saying that if character is lost, everything is lost. Everyone in Pakistan knows about Zardari&#8217;s history. Pakistani courts can be biased, but the not the courts of Switzerland or UK, as these are free societies unlike ours&#8217;. These people were already convicted by foreign courts, and a large number of cases ares still pending against them. This is why they had to seek shelter under the umbrella of the notorious NRO.</p>
<p>Mr. Zardari and his associates, who have never been directly elected by the people, who looted and plundered our country in the past and against whom there is also substantial evidence in this regard are now absolved of all their past sins and wrongdoings, thanks to the NRO. Whereas the genuinely elected/popular leaders are declared ineligible for holding public office, by a puppet kangaroo court, on directives from Mr. Zardari, merely because these leaders stick to their principles on national issues and stand by the commitments they made to the people who elected them. Everyone knows that the Plane Hijacking Case on the basis of which these leaders have been disqualified was a farce. In contrast, the beneficiaries of the NRO have far serious cases of corruption against them. And what is Zardari&#8217;s character? He made committments to the nation, on TV and then backed out completely.</p>
<p>Of course Nawaz Sharif was no angel when he was in power, and there were instances of wrongdoing during Sharif’s time in power, such as victimization of opponents through the notorious Ehtesab Bureau, gagging of print media, especially the standoff with the Jang Group, but let us also remember that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who was the greatest leader after Quaid-e-Azam, was also accused of such practices during his term in office. But Mian Sahab’s 7 years in exile have made him realize his wrongdoings and he has now turned into a more mature political leader. </p>
<p>There is not a single case of embezzlement or corruption against the Sharifs. The truth is that Nawaz Sharif is a leader whom the people trust, and who’s sincerety to the country cannot be doubted for a second. He is respected not only at national level but also internationally. After the martyrdom of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif is the only leader on our national horizon, who has a vision for the prosperity of our country, our people. I’m afraid, the same can never be said about Mr. Zardari.</p>
<p>After all what was the crime of Mian Shahbaz Sharif for which he was disqualified? Is subsidizing bread for the poor a crime? Is the provision of free medicines to the poor a crime? Is selfless public service a crime? These are the questions which arise in the minds of the people of Punjab.</p>
<p>No doubt that the present government must complete its 5 year term, which is vital for democracy.But, the Pakistani people are not fool. They know who is standing by their committments and who is not. The people know well who the crooks are and who are the heroes. And Insha-Allah in the next elections, PML will emerge as the largest political power in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan Mirza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irfan Mirza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patience is required. Let the system prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patience is required. Let the system prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO!- THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO - THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO!- THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO - THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO – THEY ALL MUST GO</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adi 
 no body elected NRO group they were forced to land on Pakistan in spaceship called Benazir dead body.If they were elected by people they never confined themselves to presidential palaces, security zones and bomb proofs cars and took anti public decisions.These are sent on US mission that was upset owing to unpopularity of military dictator on mass level.Benazir immediately realized after landing that now the moods of people weren't in favor of them as she opted by choice to live in luxurious exile as US was in mood of supporting military dictator in our region for smooth war on terror program.Her immediate inclination toward CH iftikhar and his restoration clearly indicated her political skills to read the ground realities as per requirement.Her last speech in front of CJP iftikhar chaudry  is now become milestone of lawyers movement and big blow to ruling characters belong to PPP.
Shairf brothers also knew the reality of their unpopularity, therefore thy firstly took the shield of Lawyers movement to enter in field of politics, then they made their frontline of those people who are pure politicans of local and avoid alien intruders in politics.Shabiz shairf as usual made his good 
 repute thru good governance in Punjab culture and proved himself in good books for common man.
Both are following opposite directions to make their roots strong in this system.No doubt sharif has got an edge on zadrari and Co.This friction is very good for our path toward democracy as shake hand of both parties is very dangerous for national issues and public welfare.Let them to head on with each other, we have no other option to take out zardari and CO from our national assets as diamond is always cuts by diamond .In Pakistan we use coal to cut coals for getting political diamonds in our soil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adi<br />
 no body elected NRO group they were forced to land on Pakistan in spaceship called Benazir dead body.If they were elected by people they never confined themselves to presidential palaces, security zones and bomb proofs cars and took anti public decisions.These are sent on US mission that was upset owing to unpopularity of military dictator on mass level.Benazir immediately realized after landing that now the moods of people weren&#8217;t in favor of them as she opted by choice to live in luxurious exile as US was in mood of supporting military dictator in our region for smooth war on terror program.Her immediate inclination toward CH iftikhar and his restoration clearly indicated her political skills to read the ground realities as per requirement.Her last speech in front of CJP iftikhar chaudry  is now become milestone of lawyers movement and big blow to ruling characters belong to PPP.<br />
Shairf brothers also knew the reality of their unpopularity, therefore thy firstly took the shield of Lawyers movement to enter in field of politics, then they made their frontline of those people who are pure politicans of local and avoid alien intruders in politics.Shabiz shairf as usual made his good<br />
 repute thru good governance in Punjab culture and proved himself in good books for common man.<br />
Both are following opposite directions to make their roots strong in this system.No doubt sharif has got an edge on zadrari and Co.This friction is very good for our path toward democracy as shake hand of both parties is very dangerous for national issues and public welfare.Let them to head on with each other, we have no other option to take out zardari and CO from our national assets as diamond is always cuts by diamond .In Pakistan we use coal to cut coals for getting political diamonds in our soil.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adi

dont put up dumb comments just for making your presence felt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adi</p>
<p>dont put up dumb comments just for making your presence felt!</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali,

Boy you Pakistanis are so easy to change your mind. Earlier you guys were shouting that this same guy Nawaz Sharif is a person who looted Pakistan and also Benazir Bhutto and Zardari. Then you vote for them and elect them in to Parliament and now again you are shouting they are bad.

If you had known this that these guys are bad bloody why did you vote for them in first place. Were you guys wearing blinders or what? You guys have created this situation for your self and now you are dieing because of that. The Taliban mess that your intelligence agency created is now out of control and is eating your country only.

Wake up guys. Islam is good, it is a religion but you need to be a individual also not everything and anything can be done on the basis of religion. When you will learn this fact then you guys will understand what I am trying to say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali,</p>
<p>Boy you Pakistanis are so easy to change your mind. Earlier you guys were shouting that this same guy Nawaz Sharif is a person who looted Pakistan and also Benazir Bhutto and Zardari. Then you vote for them and elect them in to Parliament and now again you are shouting they are bad.</p>
<p>If you had known this that these guys are bad bloody why did you vote for them in first place. Were you guys wearing blinders or what? You guys have created this situation for your self and now you are dieing because of that. The Taliban mess that your intelligence agency created is now out of control and is eating your country only.</p>
<p>Wake up guys. Islam is good, it is a religion but you need to be a individual also not everything and anything can be done on the basis of religion. When you will learn this fact then you guys will understand what I am trying to say!</p>
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