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		<title>By: Dr Razahaider</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26573</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Razahaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yaar aftab tum mairay deemagh per cherh gaye ho ............ioi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yaar aftab tum mairay deemagh per cherh gaye ho &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;ioi</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Razahaider</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26572</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Razahaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry aftab its not you its my dear brother saleem ,please accept</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry aftab its not you its my dear brother saleem ,please accept</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Razahaider</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26571</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Razahaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Aftab, although I appreciably own your reservation and point of concerned view but as opinion hold my related version. 

You see Aftab we got to perceive things on mandatory, liability and preference and priority bases. 

Temporary issues can not be perceived on ground and replacement of permanent need. 

Similarly essentiality on permanent perspective can not be disregarded on ground of observation and current requirement. Issues, need, and requirement are of different horizons and variant nature.

The Need and requirement have vast difference in terminology. Need is a term used to indicate that, there are other element also that is a essentiality in addition. 

Whereas requirement indicates a sole element without which things can not be accomplished.

We got to perceive things on the basis of need and requirement.

Presence of land forces are our requirement so to curtail and restrain enemies from invading ,whereas systemized way of want are issues that we need in order to run our mechanics of living efficiently and with ease .it has no match what so ever with our requirement for land air or naval forces or rangers.

You see Aftab comments to endorse defaults and tag in necessity should always be processed after evaluating on ground realities.

Take my word although I am no authority we as nation can not withstand single day if we are out of army .this is wrong perception that we or any body can drop a missile or bomb if one enters in to the domain .these items are the last resort after a full fledge war, none can afford to indulge their people and their generation, in just few hours of war after throwing these nuclear laden bombs.

Aftab we got to realize that we from day one have suffered such a threat that if ground forces were not assembled and prepared in a proper format, things would have been different.

It is never a single day at border when army has a musical function .I have been to the hottest borders in Kashmir and kargil during war, I was injured even and then down categorize permanently due to injury in kargil war.

Dear you got to visit such terrain and areas so to under stand our above of all need .after a month or two I have a plan to visit, if you like I can manage to arrange your trip as well regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Aftab, although I appreciably own your reservation and point of concerned view but as opinion hold my related version. </p>
<p>You see Aftab we got to perceive things on mandatory, liability and preference and priority bases. </p>
<p>Temporary issues can not be perceived on ground and replacement of permanent need. </p>
<p>Similarly essentiality on permanent perspective can not be disregarded on ground of observation and current requirement. Issues, need, and requirement are of different horizons and variant nature.</p>
<p>The Need and requirement have vast difference in terminology. Need is a term used to indicate that, there are other element also that is a essentiality in addition. </p>
<p>Whereas requirement indicates a sole element without which things can not be accomplished.</p>
<p>We got to perceive things on the basis of need and requirement.</p>
<p>Presence of land forces are our requirement so to curtail and restrain enemies from invading ,whereas systemized way of want are issues that we need in order to run our mechanics of living efficiently and with ease .it has no match what so ever with our requirement for land air or naval forces or rangers.</p>
<p>You see Aftab comments to endorse defaults and tag in necessity should always be processed after evaluating on ground realities.</p>
<p>Take my word although I am no authority we as nation can not withstand single day if we are out of army .this is wrong perception that we or any body can drop a missile or bomb if one enters in to the domain .these items are the last resort after a full fledge war, none can afford to indulge their people and their generation, in just few hours of war after throwing these nuclear laden bombs.</p>
<p>Aftab we got to realize that we from day one have suffered such a threat that if ground forces were not assembled and prepared in a proper format, things would have been different.</p>
<p>It is never a single day at border when army has a musical function .I have been to the hottest borders in Kashmir and kargil during war, I was injured even and then down categorize permanently due to injury in kargil war.</p>
<p>Dear you got to visit such terrain and areas so to under stand our above of all need .after a month or two I have a plan to visit, if you like I can manage to arrange your trip as well regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26550</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know that there are such feelings as: Panick; Zealots; Over reaction; Trigger happy.

Problem with human mind is it has imagination and can fantasize and anticipate threats; it can feel threatend. People have committed blunders of all sorts under fear (fear is enemy of reason, remember?). I would feel safe if could live without presence of this monster on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know that there are such feelings as: Panick; Zealots; Over reaction; Trigger happy.</p>
<p>Problem with human mind is it has imagination and can fantasize and anticipate threats; it can feel threatend. People have committed blunders of all sorts under fear (fear is enemy of reason, remember?). I would feel safe if could live without presence of this monster on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Johann</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26540</link>
		<dc:creator>Johann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,
  I am an Indian but i know it is the pakistani Nukes which saved it from operation parakram after the parliament atttack by your ISI.
  It is the nukes of both countries which is giving SECURITY TO BOTH PEOPLE from real or imaginary threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,<br />
  I am an Indian but i know it is the pakistani Nukes which saved it from operation parakram after the parliament atttack by your ISI.<br />
  It is the nukes of both countries which is giving SECURITY TO BOTH PEOPLE from real or imaginary threats.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-26188</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khoon apnaa ho ya paraayaa ho
nasl-e-aadam ka khoon hai aakhir

jang mashriq meiN ho ke magHrib meiN
amn-e-aalam ka khoon hai aakhir

jang  to khud hi ek mas_alaa hai
jang kyaa mas_aloN ka hal degee
aag aur khoon aaj bakhshegee
bhookh aur ehtiyaaj kal degee
	
isliye ae shareef insaano
jang Taltee rahe to behtar hai
aap aur ham sabhi ke aaNgan meiN
shammaa jaltee rahe to behtar hai
	
bartaree ke suboot kee khaatir
khooN bahaanaa hi kyaa zarooree hai?
ghar ki taareeqiyaan miTaane ko
ghar jalaanaa hi kyaa zarooree hai?

(Sahir)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khoon apnaa ho ya paraayaa ho<br />
nasl-e-aadam ka khoon hai aakhir</p>
<p>jang mashriq meiN ho ke magHrib meiN<br />
amn-e-aalam ka khoon hai aakhir</p>
<p>jang  to khud hi ek mas_alaa hai<br />
jang kyaa mas_aloN ka hal degee<br />
aag aur khoon aaj bakhshegee<br />
bhookh aur ehtiyaaj kal degee</p>
<p>isliye ae shareef insaano<br />
jang Taltee rahe to behtar hai<br />
aap aur ham sabhi ke aaNgan meiN<br />
shammaa jaltee rahe to behtar hai</p>
<p>bartaree ke suboot kee khaatir<br />
khooN bahaanaa hi kyaa zarooree hai?<br />
ghar ki taareeqiyaan miTaane ko<br />
ghar jalaanaa hi kyaa zarooree hai?</p>
<p>(Sahir)</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-25725</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Aftab, Writer and others,

First of all, i feel shame to even address you on such important day. You are the people who tries to deviate things on wrong track. Tell me, who is defending this country? The Army or Nuclear Weapons/Missiles? If you say Army then you are living in some other world. Our enemy is only afraid of our Missiles and Nuclear Bombs and due to this we are taking breath in our Country. I know why you opposing it… because It was started by PPP Leader Zulfiqar and confirmed it on international level by PMLN leader Nawaz Sharif ( Regardless of direct telephone threats from USA).

Lets come the other point…that you people uses from deviating innocent Pakistanis from right track. i.e. in short is COST… Am I right.

for that please make it clear that total cost incurred in last 40 years on this Nuclear war heads and missile program is less than 2 Military Budgets. You will be amazed but it was ensured by independent resources of Pakistan lot of times. If you can bear Trillions of Amount for Military so these Military Officers can make lot of housing societies and concur Pakistan after every 8 to 10 years then Budget for Nuclear War heads is nothing.

Now come to results of 60 years of Trillions and trillions of budget spent on Military and minute amount spent on Nuclear War heads…. Our respectable scientists are making 35 missiles with same cost that we gives to US for buying 1 F-16… Pakistan is not relying on 1 F-16 only… This Army is bought lot of ammunition and guns till we not tested our first Missile. Our Missiles and Nuclear war heads are made in Pakistan and at very cheap cost where as our whole Army is dependent on USA and France for buying military equipments an guns etc… From last 10 years…tell me a single agreement with France or US for buying guns and fighters at large scale. Its just because 35 Missiles = 1 F-16 and result is 100% opposite. F-16 can’t save you but only 5 or 6 Missiles are enough to keep enemy away from borders.

Now comes to efficiency. Our Missile program can target any place in sub continent but F-16 can’t reach far inside Enemy territories. They are not afraid of your fighters and guns or tanks…but they are afraid of Missile and Nuclear Bombs. Then why we are still spending so much on ARMY… even they have stopped big buying from last 10 years… after all where this money is going which ARMY is taking from us in terms of Taxes. They are simply getting more budgets than before but spending on their own entertainments and making villas, houses, agriculture lands etc etc. You biased guys point out on Nuclear Budget ( which is nothing in front of White elephant-ARMY) but you supports for giving more to this Army…because you are licker of WARDI and MUSHARRAF.

Afra you other point is concerned… give education etc to People… Tell me… India is spending much much much more than Pakistan on Nuclear studies and research… Is there Government have left nothing in his pocket to spend on Infrastructure and on Education. No Sir, They are having excellent standards in education and Infrastructure too. They have more good railway system, they have more highways and bridges, they have more schools, they have good education level, they are good in medical services… why… Because there is democracy in country and judiciary is free and fair. But here… Military is eating us… by getting budgets as well as ruling and taking all development budgets also. If you not believe then see last 5 years reports of Budgets… you will find that billion and billions of civilian development budgets are also taken away by Military on order of Musharraf. I’m not blind so can see things but you seems blind or tries to cover things because you are licker of ….

Do you think that if you would not start Nuclear Institution is Pakistan then we will be living like good nations… NO…simply NO. We would be living like hell. today at least we are secure due to this technology and tomorrow same technology will take out Pakistan from darkness that is given by Musharraf regime and special gift to KARACHI for supporting him. If you want to change, then follow India or China style… or solve Kashmir problem.

You can’t change and it is 100% assured that you will always oppose right and support wrong. I can even bet here that if start discussion of Religion, you will start opposing it also by bringing twisty arguments. This was problem is Jews but now Muslims started adopting it. It your attitude problem. but whole nation is not like you. People knows and understands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Aftab, Writer and others,</p>
<p>First of all, i feel shame to even address you on such important day. You are the people who tries to deviate things on wrong track. Tell me, who is defending this country? The Army or Nuclear Weapons/Missiles? If you say Army then you are living in some other world. Our enemy is only afraid of our Missiles and Nuclear Bombs and due to this we are taking breath in our Country. I know why you opposing it… because It was started by PPP Leader Zulfiqar and confirmed it on international level by PMLN leader Nawaz Sharif ( Regardless of direct telephone threats from USA).</p>
<p>Lets come the other point…that you people uses from deviating innocent Pakistanis from right track. i.e. in short is COST… Am I right.</p>
<p>for that please make it clear that total cost incurred in last 40 years on this Nuclear war heads and missile program is less than 2 Military Budgets. You will be amazed but it was ensured by independent resources of Pakistan lot of times. If you can bear Trillions of Amount for Military so these Military Officers can make lot of housing societies and concur Pakistan after every 8 to 10 years then Budget for Nuclear War heads is nothing.</p>
<p>Now come to results of 60 years of Trillions and trillions of budget spent on Military and minute amount spent on Nuclear War heads…. Our respectable scientists are making 35 missiles with same cost that we gives to US for buying 1 F-16… Pakistan is not relying on 1 F-16 only… This Army is bought lot of ammunition and guns till we not tested our first Missile. Our Missiles and Nuclear war heads are made in Pakistan and at very cheap cost where as our whole Army is dependent on USA and France for buying military equipments an guns etc… From last 10 years…tell me a single agreement with France or US for buying guns and fighters at large scale. Its just because 35 Missiles = 1 F-16 and result is 100% opposite. F-16 can’t save you but only 5 or 6 Missiles are enough to keep enemy away from borders.</p>
<p>Now comes to efficiency. Our Missile program can target any place in sub continent but F-16 can’t reach far inside Enemy territories. They are not afraid of your fighters and guns or tanks…but they are afraid of Missile and Nuclear Bombs. Then why we are still spending so much on ARMY… even they have stopped big buying from last 10 years… after all where this money is going which ARMY is taking from us in terms of Taxes. They are simply getting more budgets than before but spending on their own entertainments and making villas, houses, agriculture lands etc etc. You biased guys point out on Nuclear Budget ( which is nothing in front of White elephant-ARMY) but you supports for giving more to this Army…because you are licker of WARDI and MUSHARRAF.</p>
<p>Afra you other point is concerned… give education etc to People… Tell me… India is spending much much much more than Pakistan on Nuclear studies and research… Is there Government have left nothing in his pocket to spend on Infrastructure and on Education. No Sir, They are having excellent standards in education and Infrastructure too. They have more good railway system, they have more highways and bridges, they have more schools, they have good education level, they are good in medical services… why… Because there is democracy in country and judiciary is free and fair. But here… Military is eating us… by getting budgets as well as ruling and taking all development budgets also. If you not believe then see last 5 years reports of Budgets… you will find that billion and billions of civilian development budgets are also taken away by Military on order of Musharraf. I’m not blind so can see things but you seems blind or tries to cover things because you are licker of ….</p>
<p>Do you think that if you would not start Nuclear Institution is Pakistan then we will be living like good nations… NO…simply NO. We would be living like hell. today at least we are secure due to this technology and tomorrow same technology will take out Pakistan from darkness that is given by Musharraf regime and special gift to KARACHI for supporting him. If you want to change, then follow India or China style… or solve Kashmir problem.</p>
<p>You can’t change and it is 100% assured that you will always oppose right and support wrong. I can even bet here that if start discussion of Religion, you will start opposing it also by bringing twisty arguments. This was problem is Jews but now Muslims started adopting it. It your attitude problem. but whole nation is not like you. People knows and understands.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-25709</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common Pakistani Cares Most About?

- Clean drinking water 

- Basic food stuff

- A place to live

- Education for all

- Availability of medical facilities

- Access to health care facility

- Honest Politicians to serve not rule</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common Pakistani Cares Most About?</p>
<p>- Clean drinking water </p>
<p>- Basic food stuff</p>
<p>- A place to live</p>
<p>- Education for all</p>
<p>- Availability of medical facilities</p>
<p>- Access to health care facility</p>
<p>- Honest Politicians to serve not rule</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/yaum-e-takbeer/comment-page-1/#comment-25707</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as it takes to save Pakistan and its people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as it takes to save Pakistan and its people!</p>
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