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]]> By: farooq khan shilmani http://www.pkhope.com/why-pmln-haggles-over-nwfp-name-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1840919 farooq khan shilmani Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:06:12 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19959#comment-1840919 Faeid shahzad khan shilmani your right I am agreed with you ta so rishtia weala de oh sta khybra thaik de Farid Shahzad Khan Shilmani on March 20th, 2010 : Dear friends, bros and sister, I red some of the comments and then replies to each thers among you.And i notice that really we are in 3rd world and some people are highly developed than us like america and europe.And the same way they had been advanced and they passed through these things. But whenever i see there is some thing wrong with us pakhtuns and panjabis, singhi and now hindki are opposite of us. If you cannot bear other he cannot bear you.If you have made the name change issue a big issue why you not solve it. There is something wrong but what is wrong Allah know it and we do’nt know.But remember if are converting small issues into big issue we will do the same.And the rat should not play on the tale of the lion.I am not mentioning panjabi sindhi and balochis as the rate please but there is another who is acting like that mouse and rat. Bros and sisters please if people need pakistan, so please dont talk like this as you people did above.See now i am angry and like this other will becom angry.so this is democracy? Please feel shame from international nations and do’nt split this land. No problem rename it to khyber and go to ask and solve another problem, because we have to go very far and this too late bros and sisters. Allah Pa Amaan and In Peace of God! Faeid shahzad khan shilmani your right I am agreed with you

ta so rishtia weala de oh sta khybra thaik de

Farid Shahzad Khan Shilmani on March 20th, 2010 :
Dear friends, bros and sister, I red some of the comments and then replies to each thers among you.And i notice that really we are in 3rd world and some people are highly developed than us like america and europe.And the same way they had been advanced and they passed through these things.

But whenever i see there is some thing wrong with us pakhtuns and panjabis, singhi and now hindki are opposite of us.

If you cannot bear other he cannot bear you.If you have made the name change issue a big issue why you not solve it. There is something wrong but what is wrong Allah know it and we do’nt know.But remember if are converting small issues into big issue we will do the same.And the rat should not play on the tale of the lion.I am not mentioning panjabi sindhi and balochis as the rate please but there is another who is acting like that mouse and rat.

Bros and sisters please if people need pakistan, so please dont talk like this as you people did above.See now i am angry and like this other will becom angry.so this is democracy?

Please feel shame from international nations and do’nt split this land.

No problem rename it to khyber and go to ask and solve another problem, because we have to go very far and this too late bros and sisters.

Allah Pa Amaan and In Peace of God!

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]]> By: Seema Saeed http://www.pkhope.com/why-pmln-haggles-over-nwfp-name-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1164621 Seema Saeed Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:18:31 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19959#comment-1164621 Changing name of NWFP: A political drama towards disintegration. For decades ANP used the issue of renaming the province as a political agenda, and now when they are in absolute power, they have no option, but to address the issue they once created. I am wondering how the changed name of the province will bring a favorable change in the life of those who are living in this province: • Will the intensity of bomb blasts decreases or the suicide bombers will stop exploding? • Will the masses get better health and education facilities within a clean environment to live? • Will there be no more load shedding of electricity, gas, sugar and ‘atta’? • Will the lawlessness and cases of kidnapping for ransom will decrease? If the answer to these questions is yes, then I am the first to swear that I will fight till death for this noble cause. However, if this is not the case, then what is the logic of making a bigger crisis out of this ill-advised and poorly perceived issue? If the ANP is successful in changing the name, what can be the consequences? To address this critical question, we have to accept the hard reality that Pashto is not the primary language of majority in Chitral, Kohistan (both Swat-Kohistan and Indus-Kohistan of Manshera), Abbottabad, Manshera, Haripur, Kohat, and Dera Ismail Khan. These will be the aggrieved districts, if the name is changed to Pashtoon-Khwaa or Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania etc. Similarly, the majority in these districts will resist to varying degree against this unpopular decision. Once, the Pandora box is opened, then we should not forget that our hidden and apparent enemies will help the locals in these aggrieved districts to claim some autonomy, merge with others, stay independent or whatever. If the ANP is under the impression that they will control the future mob and resistance, they have an open choice now to test their muscles in FATA, even with the full support of Para Military and Armed Forces of Pakistan. The actual strengths of the NWFP are its unique resources like water, forests, natural gas and vast agricultural lands of the south. Regarding water resources of Pakistan, we have to admit that most of the water ways and water storages are more in the control of those potential aggrieved districts mentioned above. Once the resistance due to changed name is started, the control of water will be no more be in the hands of those, who are controlling the things now. Thus, if ANP by virtue of its stance as the local party working for the welfare of people of NWFP; will lose its strength of being custodians of water resources of Pakistan, then what will be their say in the national politics. Similarly, most of our productive and valuable forests and associated wildlife are in Chitral, Kohistan and Manshera. Again all these are the potential aggrieved districts. We cannot neither find the valuable Diar nor the globally recognized and most expensive trophy animal of the world - Markhor in Charsadda and its surrounding districts. These forested areas are also a great source of tourist revenues for NWFP. Most of the national and international tourists are interested in visiting Chitral, Swat Kohistan and Hill tracts of Hazara. Except for Lower Swat all the areas are again the potential aggrieved districts. We also have to take into consideration that whether any tourist will ever bother to visit lower Swat, when they are aware of the fact that Green Chowk, the business centre of lower Swat was the favorite site of certain hidden forces for hanging the beheaded bodies of the residents of Swat. Natural gas in Karak district is another great resource of the province. The Khattaks of this area are smart enough to understand that they will never be like the residents of Sui, who are still without gas, where as the gas of Sui is distributed from North to South and East to West corners of the country. The Khattaks are already agitating whenever they feel discriminated in matters related to gas. Moreover, ANP is present in papers once we cross the Kotal pass or the Kohat tunnel. So, leaders of ANP should stop daydreaming that they will ever negotiate on the basis of the natural gas resources of Southern NWFP. Another big resource of the NWFP is its vast potential agricultural lands of Karak, Lakki Marwat and Dera Ismail Khan. In the past, these areas were kept intentionally backward by the political forces of NWFP, so that the dominance of Charsadda and its surroundings should stay intact. However, who so ever is a regular visitor of these areas for last few decades would have noticed that now these areas are turning ‘green’. Thanks to the Chasma Right Bank Canal, as it improved the water table in the southern districts of NWFP. Now with the cheaper but technologically improved water pumps (tube wells), the virgin lands of these southern districts are turning into more productive agricultural lands. Again, the masses of these districts have no sympathizes with ANP, their leaders and their political agendas. They still remember the words of the then leader of ANP, Abdul Wali Khan, who during the cold war era, declared the people of these districts as the potential “labour class” of independent Pakhtoonistan. FATA always enjoyed the independent status, so, if ANP leaders will try to merge the tribal agencies with their Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania, they will only face resistance. Same will be the case of the PATA, as they will definitely keep their separate identity and will be more comfortable with FATA, as against some other alternative arrangements. When ANP and their Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania, will be without the water resources, forests, natural gas and vast agricultural lands, on what basis will they take part in the national or local politics? Their remaining strongholds of Charsadda, Mardan and Nowshera will produce nothing except a few ‘Khans’ and lot of their enemies. If we as Pakistanis want our separate identity, it is high time that we come together, join hands against our hidden and apparent enemies and talk about integration. For that to happen, we have to forget our differences and political agendas and it is an excellent opportunity for ANP in NWFP to come with the suggestion that we will definitely change the name of our province, but the name of that province will be “Amnistan” – a place of ‘Amn’ or in other words ‘a place of peace, serenity and tranquility’. First, they will swear and promise that this province will never be a battle field for others to fight their war over here, and then we will promise that we will never allow anyone to use our lands as battle fields for others. If such words will come from the souls and bodies of all of us, our future is bright, InshaAllah. Changing name of NWFP: A political drama towards disintegration.
For decades ANP used the issue of renaming the province as a political agenda, and now when they are in absolute power, they have no option, but to address the issue they once created. I am wondering how the changed name of the province will bring a favorable change in the life of those who are living in this province:
• Will the intensity of bomb blasts decreases or the suicide bombers will stop exploding?
• Will the masses get better health and education facilities within a clean environment to live?
• Will there be no more load shedding of electricity, gas, sugar and ‘atta’?
• Will the lawlessness and cases of kidnapping for ransom will decrease?
If the answer to these questions is yes, then I am the first to swear that I will fight till death for this noble cause. However, if this is not the case, then what is the logic of making a bigger crisis out of this ill-advised and poorly perceived issue?
If the ANP is successful in changing the name, what can be the consequences? To address this critical question, we have to accept the hard reality that Pashto is not the primary language of majority in Chitral, Kohistan (both Swat-Kohistan and Indus-Kohistan of Manshera), Abbottabad, Manshera, Haripur, Kohat, and Dera Ismail Khan. These will be the aggrieved districts, if the name is changed to Pashtoon-Khwaa or Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania etc. Similarly, the majority in these districts will resist to varying degree against this unpopular decision. Once, the Pandora box is opened, then we should not forget that our hidden and apparent enemies will help the locals in these aggrieved districts to claim some autonomy, merge with others, stay independent or whatever. If the ANP is under the impression that they will control the future mob and resistance, they have an open choice now to test their muscles in FATA, even with the full support of Para Military and Armed Forces of Pakistan.
The actual strengths of the NWFP are its unique resources like water, forests, natural gas and vast agricultural lands of the south. Regarding water resources of Pakistan, we have to admit that most of the water ways and water storages are more in the control of those potential aggrieved districts mentioned above. Once the resistance due to changed name is started, the control of water will be no more be in the hands of those, who are controlling the things now. Thus, if ANP by virtue of its stance as the local party working for the welfare of people of NWFP; will lose its strength of being custodians of water resources of Pakistan, then what will be their say in the national politics.
Similarly, most of our productive and valuable forests and associated wildlife are in Chitral, Kohistan and Manshera. Again all these are the potential aggrieved districts. We cannot neither find the valuable Diar nor the globally recognized and most expensive trophy animal of the world - Markhor in Charsadda and its surrounding districts. These forested areas are also a great source of tourist revenues for NWFP. Most of the national and international tourists are interested in visiting Chitral, Swat Kohistan and Hill tracts of Hazara. Except for Lower Swat all the areas are again the potential aggrieved districts. We also have to take into consideration that whether any tourist will ever bother to visit lower Swat, when they are aware of the fact that Green Chowk, the business centre of lower Swat was the favorite site of certain hidden forces for hanging the beheaded bodies of the residents of Swat.
Natural gas in Karak district is another great resource of the province. The Khattaks of this area are smart enough to understand that they will never be like the residents of Sui, who are still without gas, where as the gas of Sui is distributed from North to South and East to West corners of the country. The Khattaks are already agitating whenever they feel discriminated in matters related to gas. Moreover, ANP is present in papers once we cross the Kotal pass or the Kohat tunnel. So, leaders of ANP should stop daydreaming that they will ever negotiate on the basis of the natural gas resources of Southern NWFP.
Another big resource of the NWFP is its vast potential agricultural lands of Karak, Lakki Marwat and Dera Ismail Khan. In the past, these areas were kept intentionally backward by the political forces of NWFP, so that the dominance of Charsadda and its surroundings should stay intact. However, who so ever is a regular visitor of these areas for last few decades would have noticed that now these areas are turning ‘green’. Thanks to the Chasma Right Bank Canal, as it improved the water table in the southern districts of NWFP. Now with the cheaper but technologically improved water pumps (tube wells), the virgin lands of these southern districts are turning into more productive agricultural lands. Again, the masses of these districts have no sympathizes with ANP, their leaders and their political agendas. They still remember the words of the then leader of ANP, Abdul Wali Khan, who during the cold war era, declared the people of these districts as the potential “labour class” of independent Pakhtoonistan.
FATA always enjoyed the independent status, so, if ANP leaders will try to merge the tribal agencies with their Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania, they will only face resistance. Same will be the case of the PATA, as they will definitely keep their separate identity and will be more comfortable with FATA, as against some other alternative arrangements.
When ANP and their Paktoon-Khwaa or Afghania, will be without the water resources, forests, natural gas and vast agricultural lands, on what basis will they take part in the national or local politics? Their remaining strongholds of Charsadda, Mardan and Nowshera will produce nothing except a few ‘Khans’ and lot of their enemies.
If we as Pakistanis want our separate identity, it is high time that we come together, join hands against our hidden and apparent enemies and talk about integration. For that to happen, we have to forget our differences and political agendas and it is an excellent opportunity for ANP in NWFP to come with the suggestion that we will definitely change the name of our province, but the name of that province will be “Amnistan” – a place of ‘Amn’ or in other words ‘a place of peace, serenity and tranquility’. First, they will swear and promise that this province will never be a battle field for others to fight their war over here, and then we will promise that we will never allow anyone to use our lands as battle fields for others. If such words will come from the souls and bodies of all of us, our future is bright, InshaAllah.

]]> By: Farid Shahzad Khan Shilmani http://www.pkhope.com/why-pmln-haggles-over-nwfp-name-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1142749 Farid Shahzad Khan Shilmani Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:26:57 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19959#comment-1142749 Dear friends, bros and sister, I red some of the comments and then replies to each thers among you.And i notice that really we are in 3rd world and some people are highly developed than us like america and europe.And the same way they had been advanced and they passed through these things. But whenever i see there is some thing wrong with us pakhtuns and panjabis, singhi and now hindki are opposite of us. If you cannot bear other he cannot bear you.If you have made the name change issue a big issue why you not solve it. There is something wrong but what is wrong Allah know it and we do'nt know.But remember if are converting small issues into big issue we will do the same.And the rat should not play on the tale of the lion.I am not mentioning panjabi sindhi and balochis as the rate please but there is another who is acting like that mouse and rat. Bros and sisters please if people need pakistan, so please dont talk like this as you people did above.See now i am angry and like this other will becom angry.so this is democracy? Please feel shame from international nations and do'nt split this land. No problem rename it to khyber and go to ask and solve another problem, because we have to go very far and this too late bros and sisters. Allah Pa Amaan and In Peace of God! Dear friends, bros and sister, I red some of the comments and then replies to each thers among you.And i notice that really we are in 3rd world and some people are highly developed than us like america and europe.And the same way they had been advanced and they passed through these things.

But whenever i see there is some thing wrong with us pakhtuns and panjabis, singhi and now hindki are opposite of us.

If you cannot bear other he cannot bear you.If you have made the name change issue a big issue why you not solve it. There is something wrong but what is wrong Allah know it and we do’nt know.But remember if are converting small issues into big issue we will do the same.And the rat should not play on the tale of the lion.I am not mentioning panjabi sindhi and balochis as the rate please but there is another who is acting like that mouse and rat.

Bros and sisters please if people need pakistan, so please dont talk like this as you people did above.See now i am angry and like this other will becom angry.so this is democracy?

Please feel shame from international nations and do’nt split this land.

No problem rename it to khyber and go to ask and solve another problem, because we have to go very far and this too late bros and sisters.

Allah Pa Amaan and In Peace of God!

]]> By: Maim Sahb http://www.pkhope.com/why-pmln-haggles-over-nwfp-name-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1065853 Maim Sahb Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:39:57 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19959#comment-1065853 you don,t like us and we (Hindko speaking) don,t like you. we are different nations, we were pro Pakistani and always voted for muslim league.you followers of ANP were pro Congress an anti Pakistan party. your guru bacha khan hated pakistan and is burried in Afghanistan according to his will. the best slution is to make Hazara a saperate province, na rahay ga bans aur nah bajay gi bansri. it will be a rich province as terbaila dam is in Hazara. Jiay Hazara you don,t like us and we (Hindko speaking) don,t like you.
we are different nations, we were pro Pakistani and always voted for muslim league.you followers of ANP were pro Congress an anti Pakistan party. your guru bacha khan hated pakistan and is burried in Afghanistan according to his will.
the best slution is to make Hazara a saperate province, na rahay ga bans aur nah bajay gi bansri.
it will be a rich province as terbaila dam is in Hazara.

Jiay Hazara

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