Who is behind the Mumbai attacks?
By Rana • Nov 29th, 2008 • Category: Politics • 28 CommentsI have been following the events unfolding in mumbai both on television and the internet. I was just wondering “when” would they say it was Pakistan. Finally they did. The evidence is “mind blowing”. Lets have a analysis:
1. They came on speed boats from Pakistan. WOW :). Indian coastguards intercept fisherman that cross the maritime borders into Indian waters everyday. Thousands rot in Indian jails and here we have guys with sophisticated weapons entering india and their coastgaurds were fast asleep…….hmmmm fishy
2. Mumbai police intercepted calls made to/from Pakistan….what idiot would do that?? maybe the Mumbai police. Hey there is my number…come get me
3. They had the “footprints” of the ISI…..did the ISI leave behind its footprints….hmmm
Jokes apart…so what who were behind the attacks and why where they orchestrated.
Lets start with who gains from all this….
1. The new american president before coming in office condemns “hateful ideology” (read “Islamist”) and is aligned with the war on terror (read muslims worldwide). Get him on track before he even starts to think……India’s democracy ”will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks” in Mumbai, US President-elect Obama
2. India gets a free hand to do what it will take to crush “terrorism” (read Kashmiris)
“We will take up strongly with our neighbors that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated,” Singh said in a televised address to the nation. “There would be a cost if suitable measures are not taken by them.” He said the terrorists may have “external linkages.”
3. Israel joins the party. “In India or elsewhere, there are extremist Islamic forces who don’t accept our existence, or the Western way of life,” Livni said at a news conference in Jerusalem in which she confirmed that five Israelis were killed at the Chabad House. “It’s a shame that this kind of event must remind part of the Western of the world about this reality. The target is not just Israel, but the West.” Sounds familiar…lets compare
The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism…..a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam. The terrorists’ directive commands them to kill Christians and Jews, to kill all Americans, and make no distinction among military and civilians, including women and children. —-Bush after 9/11
Need I say more? What does Pakistan gain from the attacks? NOTHING!
However, the real tragedy is going to unfold in the next 1-2 months when something terrible is going to happen in Pakistan….as a retaliation. God help us all. We have had enough of it already.
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Rana Sb.
well said !
a lot of indians are asking the same questions
its only a plot to attack pakistan
Dude,
Wel switch on the TV screens and u ll get all the ‘unfolded’ news,
. for ur benefit see the below
1, Terrorists came via sea route from karachi
2, They hijacked a fishing vessel and beheaded the innocent fisherman.
3, They killed 2 coast guard officers
4, The captured terrorist is from Faridcot, he has confirmed his Let Links clearly
5, The blackberries and GPS system they used was checked and Phone was used to call Lashkar Commander in Muzaffarabad (Yusuf Muzamil). The GPS shows their route from pakistan.
Your democratic government is a puppet in the hands of ISI and other terrorists. Don’t worry we got the invitation and this time will definitely come home with ‘Gifts’.
what idiot would do that?? Ill tell you - A Pakistani - Further proof of it being a Pakistani if you ask me
As far as Pakistan involvement is concerned, we dont need to debate unnecessarily - Your country will be provided with enough proof in days to come. Forget this incident - Can you people decline the fact that outfits and individuals like LET, Jaish-E-Mohammed, Dawood and many others operate covertly under your noses out of Pakistan since ages despite India and other nations plea to clamp down on them. Have you visited the picturesque terrorist training camps in your country - Do that instead of hitting the beach for a change
Boss let me keep it short - The innocent Pakistani can no longer wash his hands off terrorist acts committed out of Pakistani soil - If the innocent Pakistani cannot get his house in order, we will shortly do it for him
Btw whats the status of your bankruptcy bailout package - A piece of advise, stop spending on terrorism
Unfortunately Pakstan has most hostile (makkar) neighbour (in the form of India) in the whole world, any country could possibly have in her neighbour.
india never misses a chance to involve Pakistan on any small or big terrorist activities in india by false accusations and hypothetical analysis of their media and politicians but poor indians has never proved their poits by providing any concrete evidences.
In almost all of the cases, their own people find involved in these terrorist activities whenever a thorough investigation tool place for eg., chattisgarh incident during Clinton visit to india when 36 hindus were massacred, ram yatra in indian occupied Kashmir when CRPF killed 47 yatris and the incident of indian parliament attack, where Nirmla desh pande (late member of Rajyia Sabha) acknowledges that the 3 persons indicted were falsely charged as Pakistani attackers and the list goes on
The irony is the so called independent (western ) media is propagating the indian version of stories without analysing the whole scenario sensibly or showing any concrete evidence of Pakistan involvement in this terror attack but ripping off their own commitment to any kind of professionalism and ethics. This so called independent media is toally biased, partial and fully prejudiced media.
I think, officers of indian army might involved in these terrorists attack. indian govt. should grill hard the arrested Lt.Col who was involved in malegaon and samjhota express terrorist attacks.
This is ridiculuos that we (Pakistan) have an indian terrorist in our jail (who actually has confessed his crime); waiting to be hanged and it was also proved high oficials of indian army are involved in terrorist activities but indian govt are blaming Pakistan for everything.
They should change their thinking at least now and concentrate thier own indigenously produced terrorist outfits. The people of india must understand this double policy of their govt.
The govt. of Pakistan must not keep the criminal silence on this indian blame game and come forward with a befittiing reply to indian’s false accusations, who never miss any chance to bring bad name to Pakistan on international level.
The stupid indian citizens must understand the game of their govt. playing against Pakistan in order to hide their weaknesses in combating their home grown terrorism.
indian govt. should realise that if they do not encounter their home gown terrorism now (instead of simply blaming Pakistan) , it will be a great menace to the integrity of india in the very near future
Ajith
If we believe on your media like you then reply me accordingly on yours allegations
1) where were your navy , rangers and coast guards when terrorists were moving in sea towards India, or killing fisherman and after killing roamed freely in the congested roads of mumbai towards their desired targets loaded with bag packs of ammunition/ food items in such a quantity that kept them busy to fight with your four type of of forces( ATS, police, army, black cats) for more than 80 hrs.For replying me just remember that it was happened in heart of mumbai not in outskirts of any village of India.
2) you had one fishing vessel and 2 coast guards only for securing miles spread coastal belt on mumbai?
3)If you believe that arrested terrorist is from faridcot then give his photo on net/media and I assure that our media men and young generation will find his all whereabout from l faridcot.In our countries we belong to extended family system and if yours agencies give us details of that man , we will find his links as per yours detail.
4)This was one of excellent form of commando action ever seen in the terrorist history.Talk to any SSG personal, they never keep any kind of communication and identification evidence with them in the line of mission.Keeping black berry,mobile and gsp system in active form sounds very abnormal in this high profile activity.But if you still insist please give their mobile numbers and black berry detail in media and then see our efifciency.
We as a nation are facing more worst situation than you people.No doubt our army and govt people are touching the heights of mismanagement thats why we believe that such high level commando action is beyond the capability of our agencies.
#7 - Nazia, I’ll refrain from making any comments for the fear of that cackling you always start!!!!!!
Just for the record, I don’t agree with you.
I am not talking to Nazia here !
In my view the terrorist had this one goal of sabotaging the friendly talks between the two countries. The talks appeared promising for an acceptable accord and final settlement of the Kashmir issue; it would have made it possible for us to reduce concentration of our troops from Indian borader and reploy them to take care of this accute threat of these ‘terrorists’ aka Talibans etc. Now, it seems, we are back to the status quo, start all over again in the name of who is responsible for what and on and on. Just too bad for us all. And the winner is …….. you guessed it!
Aftab
for your convenience and comfort , dont jump into comments of other two commentators by using such a terms that reflects your superiority complex on this forums.Using theoritical dialogues without any practicality is not my style.This is a big difference between you and me and if people like you living abroad, enjoying status of democratic citizens ,commenting on bitter national issues without facing hard ship of worst management disagree people like me then really it dosnt matter for me.
You always use degraded terms for my replies like cackling, scorning etc again showed your attitude and thinking towards women , for me you are typical men breed of Pakistan who some how improves his status after getting better opportunity of setting abroad but couldnt improve his mentality.
Wham! There you go again…! I specifically said @ # 9 above that, ” I am not talking to Nazia here ! ”
Come on stop hiding behind this bull about “thinking towards women” and “typical men”, who is interested in your gender to begin with; especially yours, remember your proud claim of “living under the noses of three generals” ….. !
I like this master piece ! “We as a nation are facing more worst situation than you people.No doubt our army and govt people are touching the heights of mismanagement thats why we believe that such high level commando action is beyond the capability of our agencies.” …. Dear Ajith, come and help !
@ aijith
please visit the rediff.com a website that loves to hate pakistan
even it is asking some logical questions
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/dec/01mumterror-some-questions-about-the-terror-attacks.htm
untill recently indian navy was boasting of sinking a pirate boat near somaila and here they are not being able to detect a small trawler with arms cache on board it will only cast a doubt over the pirate claim
and if it is so easy to just walk in an attack india like you have mentioned in comment no. 3
I would suggest the indians should review their security and i would suggest they make haste
and the simpleness of the plan would only make a mockery of indian claims of being regional superpower, a country which cannot defend it self against a group of 10-15 terrorist………………..
i need not say the rest
Reference to comment no10
“You want judge people ……… watch them treat people, they dont need to treat well”
Davian Owen from Mission Impossible 3
I agree with Nazia here, thumbs up lady, you are the voice.
Aftab
open your eyes. I am replying you on comment no 8.
Now for comment no 11
I am very daring women not at all afraid from any one except my God.You used words from your high caliber vocabulary that are usually used for ,bad tempered and ill mannered women.I hope you would also deny it too.Its very difficult for person like you living with szhophrenic disease of intellectuals to absorb my observations.really big tragedy for you.I make another correction for your updated knowledge
that I am living under the nose of many generals and thats why you found lot of bitterness on my comments for army management as I witness many ways of corruption on daily basis from our national gods.
I am not in need of any foreign help to come and help me but I feel no ashamed of highlighting our weakness. I always denied to settle in western countries for comfortable life and are serving my nation and my people with honesty and dignity.I am not in need of any bull to hide or immigration of UK for my high dreams.
# 15 :
I really, honestly don’t know what are trying to say? I suppose I don’t care about this nonsense that you consider service, dignity, honesty, high dreams, bla bla bla! one just wonders about your this total inability to think. I just wish that you would think a little before you start hammering away haphazardly on the keypad of your notebook. Stop and think and then write, believe me it will be much more useful for us all. By the way what you with the generals or anyone is a matter of least interest for me, I am just surprised that you present yourself, in public, as the most vocal anti-military
and concealing your own closest association with uniform. You are yourself an ex-soldier who did not get extension and could not make it beyond Flying Officer rank and is now out to destroy the good name of our military. Life is tough, isn’t it?
Yours last three lines again showed your poor observation about your readers.You took my previous sentences ref with general and tried to taunt me thats why I replied you in this way.You never live in our streets thats why dont know that now these bull generals are no more any proud of our nation and people use their name as symbol of insult for each other.,if living in Pakistan with dignity seems nonsense to you then You are lucky that you have skipped this nonsense but I opt this nonsense and will still be committed to live here despite of all dangers.
Nazia, you can try as hard as you want to disguise yourself; you have been a resident of Malir Cant. and in uniform and you know well what I am talking about. You hate the senior officers of the Pakistan army for your personal reasons which I will rather not get into. Just go on spitting as much poison as you wish; the ordinary Pakistani cares about Pakistani soldiers from lowest soldier to the highest in rank.
Sorry you are again wrong in your speculation………keep on wasting your energy on yours misconceptions and that is actual I want to prove you that sitting in comfortable civic conditions can not develop your concepts of life that is beyond your personal experience.I hate corrupt officers specially when he is at the top most rank, this feelings become double as we called such people a traitor who destroyed national interest on personal gains.
Nazia, believe me when you mix personal hatred with any issue, your audience tend to get the impression as if you are getting even with someone for past personal hurts. Your message becomes less effective. Corruption is a detestable trait at any level in any segment of a society; I completely and totally agree with you and support you for this stand. However, I have prolems with your this selective sense of justice. I hope that you will agree with me here.
When I sound bit blunt, I do not wish to make you the target, it is only being critical of your ideas.
Regards.
Its not like Pakistan has a clean slate when it comes to terrorism.
Everything that India has said about terrorist training camps inside Pakistan, ISI being an institition of its own etc, insurgents coming into India have all been proven true.
What India said earlier, the world says now.
Democracy’s a joke into your country. You have more miiltants, than leaders.
N now you have Mr.Ten Per Cent promising full Pakistani co-operation on the terror attacks in Mumbai (wonder what that means…? more attacks?)
India reached for the stars on its own… we did not need to join anyone’s war camp for that
Nor did we need to fight a surrogate war for America.
And I am confident we will get by this one too. Despite Pakistan.