Comments on: The Islamic Concept of Leadership http://www.pkhope.com/the-islamic-concept-of-leadership/ A Candid Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:04:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Nazia http://www.pkhope.com/the-islamic-concept-of-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-903769 Nazia Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:57:27 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19363#comment-903769 Usman You are talking about ideal state but all had started vanishing after the death of Hazrat Ali.Our 3 among 4 of khalifas were murdered and its had given way to wrong notion in communities living near to Muslims that Muslims believed on grabbing powers through channel of sword or by killing the people who were not in equation with each other. The imposition of Islamic tribal medieval-ism and the ferocious Islamic Bedouins have proved to be too destructive, and crude barbarism won over a fine civilization .Societies under the Islamic rules went further down than any other in their total exclusion of women from political power and social influence. Islamic legislation went far beyond anything the Holy Prophet had originally dreamed of in his tribal religiosity in cheating women of their rightful place in society and in matters of marriages,inheritance,slavery and other rights. There is no place for optimism for a liberal Islam. We have no doubts that nearly all Islamic states have failed to appreciate the basic human rights of their people, their women and their minorities. Saudis and Emirates the favorites states of west are the worst offenders; and are the financial godfathers of fundamentalism, extremism and Islamic backwardness everywhere.. Nearly every Islamic country under tyrannical rule which are all time supported by democratic western rulers is dangerous not only for itself but for the world as a whole. Pakistan under US supervisions, for example, after supplying Iran and with Korea with nuke-secrets continues to offer the dangerous technology; Vietnam and Brazil are the new customers. The nuke-terrorist Dr. Abdul Qadir is safe, well protected and facilitated by the State of Pakistan, with full impunity.So under Dr qadir our Islam of Flag was raised by our Bedouin like leadership to harass others for accepting our supremacy as we did in middle ages of Islam .The over rule factor in this deficiency of real leadership had come by transferring control of oil and religious affairs in the hand of tyrannical Wahhabi culture and its western support. Some personal beliefs have deadly consequences,the centrality of Islam to mental, social, intellectual and cultural backwardness; organized offenses against women and minorities; fundamentalism, extremism and modern terrorism are impossible to deny existing in our Islamic societies for centuries. "Religions of peace and tolerance" are mere empty words but see with whose joint venture it is all promoted. Pakistan, Algeria, Saudi UAE .Afghanistan all have same thing common and it is its govt functionaries or military representatives are all time brokers of US dreams of controlling the world through her promotion of war culture under US flag.So this game is still going one and more accumulated as no leadership is coming from grass roots level. Usman
You are talking about ideal state but all had started vanishing after the death of Hazrat Ali.Our 3 among 4 of khalifas were murdered and its had given way to wrong notion in communities living near to Muslims that Muslims believed on grabbing powers through channel of sword or by killing the people who were not in equation with each other.
The imposition of Islamic tribal medieval-ism and the ferocious Islamic Bedouins have proved to be too destructive, and crude barbarism won over a fine civilization .Societies under the Islamic rules went further down than any other in their total exclusion of women from political power and social influence. Islamic legislation went far beyond anything the Holy Prophet had originally dreamed of in his tribal religiosity in cheating women of their rightful place in society and in matters of marriages,inheritance,slavery and other rights.
There is no place for optimism for a liberal Islam. We have no doubts that nearly all Islamic states have failed to appreciate the basic human rights of their people, their women and their minorities. Saudis and Emirates the favorites states of west are the worst offenders; and are the financial godfathers of fundamentalism, extremism and Islamic backwardness everywhere..
Nearly every Islamic country under tyrannical rule which are all time supported by democratic western rulers is dangerous not only for itself but for the world as a whole.
Pakistan under US supervisions, for example, after supplying Iran and with Korea with nuke-secrets continues to offer the dangerous technology; Vietnam and Brazil are the new customers. The nuke-terrorist Dr. Abdul Qadir is safe, well protected and facilitated by the State of Pakistan, with full impunity.So under Dr qadir our Islam of Flag was raised by our Bedouin like leadership to harass others for accepting our supremacy as we did in middle ages of Islam .The over rule factor in this deficiency of real leadership had come by transferring control of oil and religious affairs in the hand of tyrannical Wahhabi culture and its western support.
Some personal beliefs have deadly consequences,the centrality of Islam to mental, social, intellectual and cultural backwardness; organized offenses against women and minorities; fundamentalism, extremism and modern terrorism are impossible to deny existing in our Islamic societies for centuries. “Religions of peace and tolerance” are mere empty words but see with whose joint venture it is all promoted.
Pakistan, Algeria, Saudi UAE .Afghanistan all have same thing common and it is its govt functionaries or military representatives are all time brokers of US dreams of controlling the world through her promotion of war culture under US flag.So this game is still going one and more accumulated as no leadership is coming from grass roots level.

]]> By: Adnan Arshad Mansoori http://www.pkhope.com/the-islamic-concept-of-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-900184 Adnan Arshad Mansoori Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:53:17 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=19363#comment-900184 This is on record that “When Gorbachave had announced withdrawal from Afghanistan there were 3750 Pakistanis died in Bomb Blast so the same history is being repeated. KGB – CIA – MOSSAD – RAMA & RAW all are the followers of the same pattern. And keep it in mind this specific American Serge is not for Afghanistan this is Only for Pakistan & above all on Top there is a Task to DENUCLARIZE to this beloved Islamic Republic of Pakistan & thereafter Division in Civil Society Religious/Islamic & Non Islamic/Unreligious People of Pakistan. Therefore, further 30 thousand American Forces will be stationed at South which is Center Position from over there they can Control Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan. In short America is dying SLOWLY, GRADUALLY But STUDIOUSLY just because of Sharia Law with whom she hates & not ready to promulgate in this region.” *M. L. G. = Mall Laga Ghatnay *A. G. g. W. = Abb Guzar gia Waqt Allah Jj Aur Uskay Rasool Ss - Say Jung Kurnay Chalay Ho- Tum Aur Kiya Tumharee AUQAT Kiya Yeh Samjh Rukhtay Ho- *M. L.G.- Khairat Lagee Butnay- Sirf Hukumran Kharid Saktay Ho- *A. G. g. W.- Tum Bhee Apnay Hissay Bukhray Kurwana Chatay Ho- Footnote: Anyone still trusting the corporate tools in government who've been disguising themselves as the people's representatives--- especially after AZ's parting gift to his corporate buddies in the form of that multibillion Pak Rupees Corruption Cases moreover with Trade Mark of declared American & Brits SLAVES --- anyone still trusting these tools or supporting the corporate party is either some kind of corporate tool themselves or so completely blind, deaf & dumb they should be considered too disabled to engage in the political process, anymore. Zardari & Rehman Malik Gift of Jiyala Party to this Nation these both are public eyesore & nuisance that's not NEARLY as bad as the fact as a practitioner lawyer faced cases that some women who cut off a man's p*nis, did little if ANY time in prison. This is on record that “When Gorbachave had announced withdrawal from Afghanistan there were 3750 Pakistanis died in Bomb Blast so the same history is being repeated. KGB – CIA – MOSSAD – RAMA & RAW all are the followers of the same pattern. And keep it in mind this specific American Serge is not for Afghanistan this is Only for Pakistan & above all on Top there is a Task to DENUCLARIZE to this beloved Islamic Republic of Pakistan & thereafter Division in Civil Society Religious/Islamic & Non Islamic/Unreligious People of Pakistan. Therefore, further 30 thousand American Forces will be stationed at South which is Center Position from over there they can Control Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan. In short America is dying SLOWLY, GRADUALLY But STUDIOUSLY just because of Sharia Law with whom she hates & not ready to promulgate in this region.”

*M. L. G. = Mall Laga Ghatnay
*A. G. g. W. = Abb Guzar gia Waqt

Allah Jj Aur Uskay Rasool Ss - Say Jung Kurnay Chalay Ho-
Tum Aur Kiya Tumharee AUQAT Kiya Yeh Samjh Rukhtay Ho-
*M. L.G.- Khairat Lagee Butnay- Sirf Hukumran Kharid Saktay Ho-
*A. G. g. W.- Tum Bhee Apnay Hissay Bukhray Kurwana Chatay Ho-

Footnote: Anyone still trusting the corporate tools in government who’ve been disguising themselves as the people’s representatives— especially after AZ’s parting gift to his corporate buddies in the form of that multibillion Pak Rupees Corruption Cases moreover with Trade Mark of declared American & Brits SLAVES — anyone still trusting these tools or supporting the corporate party is either some kind of corporate tool themselves or so completely blind, deaf & dumb they should be considered too disabled to engage in the political process, anymore.

Zardari & Rehman Malik Gift of Jiyala Party to this Nation these both are public eyesore & nuisance that’s not NEARLY as bad as the fact as a practitioner lawyer faced cases that some women who cut off a man’s p*nis, did little if ANY time in prison.

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