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		<title>By: Saleem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Afia got arrested in Afghanistan so one cannot say that USA need to give award to anyone for arresting her. Secondly, Musharraf and past Pakistan government categorically mentioned that no Pakistani national was handed to Americans and only those wanted people were handed over to USA who were not Pakistanis, living in Pakistan illegally and were armed, were involved in breaking Pakistani laws by their armed struggle (in Pakistan and other countries), their country did not wanted to take them after their arrest, and especially who did not wanted to live in Pakistan legally (as Musharraf government gave every foreigner in Pakistan a chance that they surrender voluntarily, surrender their arms, get register and then live in Pakistan peacefully. 

Thirdly, Musharraf political constituency was army and he could not have done anything personally (always had to go through army or intelligence). If Musharraf wanted to do anything, he has to fulfil his orders through armed forces or intelligence agencies. Even though there is no doubt that Musharraf being loyal servant of Pakistan (and his life was monitored throughout his career as life of any Pakistan army officers) could have done anything against Pakistan, I think that only a retarded person could think that army and intelligence agency were working or could have worked against Pakistan regardless of whoever orders them, neither President Musharraf could have given any order to them and lied neither Musharraf could have given any order to them that could have even seen by them against Pakistani interests. Well, Musharraf and most in the army are nevertheless more loyal to Pakistan as they are monitored throughout their career and a person who reached post of chief of armed forces cannot be doubted.

On the other hand, we have politicians whose constituency are masses, masses who are mostly illiterate and do not know anything about those they vote. These voters do not know personal life (Private or public) of these politicians (like army knows about their officers), neither they know past lives of the people they vote nor knows how these political thugs find their money (again, everything army knows about their officers but no voters know about those they vote). Unfortunately, even without knowing, voters work for their political thugs and can do everything for their political thug leaders, but people in army never work for their chief, neither would do everything for their chief, as they work for the country and always have best interest for the country.

Actually, voters do not know or have any means to know about the loyalty of their political leaders to the country and even to them. Most who get elected spend millions to get elected and survive in politics, and still we see them getting richer day after day without any income source. Most of their money comes from wrong doings and corruption (as most are in politics for corruption and nepotism they can do in politics). These politicians lie, loot, plunder, involve in nepotism, corruption, exploitation, and all sort of misdeeds and selfishness while in power, such that no intelligent person could have doubt that most politicians could sell the country for a penny in their pocket. For instance, other than looting and plundering the country, Nawaz sold Kargil for few sugar mills from India and cash from USA, has history of selling Pakistanis to USA for money as he sold Kansi and Ramzi to USA after receiving millions from USA, was trying to sell even right of nuclear test but army chief forced him to get along with test (resulting in army chief Jahangir Karamat losing his job 5 months after the test), etc. 

So, it is obvious lies and propaganda by characterless and immoral politicians and those journalists on payroll of corrupt politicians (most likely Nawaz Shareef as he is the only politicians Pakistan has every produced who uses media to do propaganda against Pakistan, Pakistani institutions, and against his opponents based on lies) that President Musharraf sold any Pakistani to USA for personal gain (something that Musharraf could not have done as it was never in his hand to do such things) or that his son has anything to do with Afia (she got arrested in Afghanistan but as far as Musharraf’s son could have had anything to do about her arrest, then even to think about it is so ridiculous that only completely retard could think that way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Afia got arrested in Afghanistan so one cannot say that USA need to give award to anyone for arresting her. Secondly, Musharraf and past Pakistan government categorically mentioned that no Pakistani national was handed to Americans and only those wanted people were handed over to USA who were not Pakistanis, living in Pakistan illegally and were armed, were involved in breaking Pakistani laws by their armed struggle (in Pakistan and other countries), their country did not wanted to take them after their arrest, and especially who did not wanted to live in Pakistan legally (as Musharraf government gave every foreigner in Pakistan a chance that they surrender voluntarily, surrender their arms, get register and then live in Pakistan peacefully. </p>
<p>Thirdly, Musharraf political constituency was army and he could not have done anything personally (always had to go through army or intelligence). If Musharraf wanted to do anything, he has to fulfil his orders through armed forces or intelligence agencies. Even though there is no doubt that Musharraf being loyal servant of Pakistan (and his life was monitored throughout his career as life of any Pakistan army officers) could have done anything against Pakistan, I think that only a retarded person could think that army and intelligence agency were working or could have worked against Pakistan regardless of whoever orders them, neither President Musharraf could have given any order to them and lied neither Musharraf could have given any order to them that could have even seen by them against Pakistani interests. Well, Musharraf and most in the army are nevertheless more loyal to Pakistan as they are monitored throughout their career and a person who reached post of chief of armed forces cannot be doubted.</p>
<p>On the other hand, we have politicians whose constituency are masses, masses who are mostly illiterate and do not know anything about those they vote. These voters do not know personal life (Private or public) of these politicians (like army knows about their officers), neither they know past lives of the people they vote nor knows how these political thugs find their money (again, everything army knows about their officers but no voters know about those they vote). Unfortunately, even without knowing, voters work for their political thugs and can do everything for their political thug leaders, but people in army never work for their chief, neither would do everything for their chief, as they work for the country and always have best interest for the country.</p>
<p>Actually, voters do not know or have any means to know about the loyalty of their political leaders to the country and even to them. Most who get elected spend millions to get elected and survive in politics, and still we see them getting richer day after day without any income source. Most of their money comes from wrong doings and corruption (as most are in politics for corruption and nepotism they can do in politics). These politicians lie, loot, plunder, involve in nepotism, corruption, exploitation, and all sort of misdeeds and selfishness while in power, such that no intelligent person could have doubt that most politicians could sell the country for a penny in their pocket. For instance, other than looting and plundering the country, Nawaz sold Kargil for few sugar mills from India and cash from USA, has history of selling Pakistanis to USA for money as he sold Kansi and Ramzi to USA after receiving millions from USA, was trying to sell even right of nuclear test but army chief forced him to get along with test (resulting in army chief Jahangir Karamat losing his job 5 months after the test), etc. </p>
<p>So, it is obvious lies and propaganda by characterless and immoral politicians and those journalists on payroll of corrupt politicians (most likely Nawaz Shareef as he is the only politicians Pakistan has every produced who uses media to do propaganda against Pakistan, Pakistani institutions, and against his opponents based on lies) that President Musharraf sold any Pakistani to USA for personal gain (something that Musharraf could not have done as it was never in his hand to do such things) or that his son has anything to do with Afia (she got arrested in Afghanistan but as far as Musharraf’s son could have had anything to do about her arrest, then even to think about it is so ridiculous that only completely retard could think that way).</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
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		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gopal,
Look into your countrys hindu terrorist first:
How you have promopted hindu terrorism in shape of Shivsenna and many more.
What happened in Gujrat many innocent muslims were martyred.
and what is going on in orrissa where you have killed many chirsitians and mintorities all riots done by hindus.
is this the democracy of india.
india is threat to all minortities living there and neihboring country.
Gopal try to mend your own house and stop intervening in pakistans, nepal srilankas bangladesh matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gopal,<br />
Look into your countrys hindu terrorist first:<br />
How you have promopted hindu terrorism in shape of Shivsenna and many more.<br />
What happened in Gujrat many innocent muslims were martyred.<br />
and what is going on in orrissa where you have killed many chirsitians and mintorities all riots done by hindus.<br />
is this the democracy of india.<br />
india is threat to all minortities living there and neihboring country.<br />
Gopal try to mend your own house and stop intervening in pakistans, nepal srilankas bangladesh matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Son of Musharraf Sold Dr. Aafia to FBI? &#171; Indus Asia Online Journal (iaoj)</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76656</link>
		<dc:creator>Son of Musharraf Sold Dr. Aafia to FBI? &#171; Indus Asia Online Journal (iaoj)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Son of Musharraf Sold Dr. Aafia to&#160;FBI?  10 08 2008   Courtesy and Thanks: The Pakistani Spectator [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Son of Musharraf Sold Dr. Aafia to&nbsp;FBI?  10 08 2008   Courtesy and Thanks: The Pakistani Spectator [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76652</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber Ghaffar, may I ask you, which of our "traditional link" with Afghanistan are you referring to? They have never been our friends. Never! For your information Afghanistan was the only country which opposed even our membership of the United Naions. They took advantage of affinity that our Pathan's have with some Pashtoon population there and always fomented a feeling of Pashtoon affiliation. We are basically simple trusting people and do think all who speak same language or claim same faith to be part of us. The Afghan Government could not challenge us militarily ( no matter much they fancied this!) because we have always been better prepared (thanks to our men and women in uniform).  

We helped them in their struggle against the Soviet invasion as well as letting them take refuge  in our country. We made a big mistake and allowed them free movement, instead of, restricting to closed Refugee Camps (like Iranis did - they kept them restricted to close camps all this time, no access to normal Irani cities or life style, period!); against the valuable advice (almost prophetic advice!) of Professor Dr. Akbar S. Ahmad (who knew it better). What did we get in return, Drug problem (over 6 million Pakistani citizens addicted!) the Gun culture (the well known KK Rifles) and Syed Qutub and Maududi's interpretation of faith, all this ethenic strifes, and relious divides. Pakistan society was much more tolerant and caring, we all 'used to be' muslim and accepted eachother without calling us 'Kafirs'. What went wrong with us, are we new converts to Islam that we are made to believe that we don't know a thing about and few people wish to teach us what they consider right or wrong. Who is so facinated by Talibaans? Who has trained and incited innocent Pakistani children  to take to violance? We always believed in education and thought knowledge was power not the guns and grenades then how come this sudden transformation in our worldview. We got along well with the West and did not make it our business to find all sorts of defects in their way of life. What is the matter with us now, why are we bent upon changing the whole world and get perished in this process. Why us the Pakistanis, if we are hurt no one, not one country in this whole world is going to shed a drop of tears for our losses. We have to wake up, time is running out on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber Ghaffar, may I ask you, which of our &#8220;traditional link&#8221; with Afghanistan are you referring to? They have never been our friends. Never! For your information Afghanistan was the only country which opposed even our membership of the United Naions. They took advantage of affinity that our Pathan&#8217;s have with some Pashtoon population there and always fomented a feeling of Pashtoon affiliation. We are basically simple trusting people and do think all who speak same language or claim same faith to be part of us. The Afghan Government could not challenge us militarily ( no matter much they fancied this!) because we have always been better prepared (thanks to our men and women in uniform).  </p>
<p>We helped them in their struggle against the Soviet invasion as well as letting them take refuge  in our country. We made a big mistake and allowed them free movement, instead of, restricting to closed Refugee Camps (like Iranis did - they kept them restricted to close camps all this time, no access to normal Irani cities or life style, period!); against the valuable advice (almost prophetic advice!) of Professor Dr. Akbar S. Ahmad (who knew it better). What did we get in return, Drug problem (over 6 million Pakistani citizens addicted!) the Gun culture (the well known KK Rifles) and Syed Qutub and Maududi&#8217;s interpretation of faith, all this ethenic strifes, and relious divides. Pakistan society was much more tolerant and caring, we all &#8216;used to be&#8217; muslim and accepted eachother without calling us &#8216;Kafirs&#8217;. What went wrong with us, are we new converts to Islam that we are made to believe that we don&#8217;t know a thing about and few people wish to teach us what they consider right or wrong. Who is so facinated by Talibaans? Who has trained and incited innocent Pakistani children  to take to violance? We always believed in education and thought knowledge was power not the guns and grenades then how come this sudden transformation in our worldview. We got along well with the West and did not make it our business to find all sorts of defects in their way of life. What is the matter with us now, why are we bent upon changing the whole world and get perished in this process. Why us the Pakistanis, if we are hurt no one, not one country in this whole world is going to shed a drop of tears for our losses. We have to wake up, time is running out on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Chotta Bao</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76648</link>
		<dc:creator>Chotta Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talha Wada Bao
The is our next generation, must be trained to face the world.
It's a difficult job, not fun at all.
Allah bless you. you helped me to feel relaxed. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talha Wada Bao<br />
The is our next generation, must be trained to face the world.<br />
It&#8217;s a difficult job, not fun at all.<br />
Allah bless you. you helped me to feel relaxed. thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Chotta Bao</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76647</link>
		<dc:creator>Chotta Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have ask who is who, 
I know what is inside the letter, by just looking at the envelope.
Thnak for your advice anyway. You Welcome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have ask who is who,<br />
I know what is inside the letter, by just looking at the envelope.<br />
Thnak for your advice anyway. You Welcome</p>
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		<title>By: Talha Lodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76646</link>
		<dc:creator>Talha Lodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chotta Bao too :D

Let our politicans do our quota of squabbling and fighting and you people sit back and enjoy the passing moment lolzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chotta Bao too <img src='http://www.pkhope.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Let our politicans do our quota of squabbling and fighting and you people sit back and enjoy the passing moment lolzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76645</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber, listen a lover of Sufi music just can't be a thief, a criminal, an arrogant individual. Sufism is about humility and love and care and devotion and sacrifice and sharing and giving and honesty and search of That Greatness who is omniscient and omnipotent and omnipresent -  Subhaan-Allaahi, wa-l-Hamdu li-llaahi, wa laa ilaha illaa-llaahu, wa-llahu akbar. Wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-llaahi-l-ʿaliyyi-l-ʿaazim. You know what I mean.

Yes, I do consider President Pervaiz Musharraf much much better person than all of these crooks around playing politics with our destiny. I hope I do not have to apologize for my opinion like you are free decide as it suits your conviction. By the way I am pain by your reference to Yazid in Pervaiz Musharraf's context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber, listen a lover of Sufi music just can&#8217;t be a thief, a criminal, an arrogant individual. Sufism is about humility and love and care and devotion and sacrifice and sharing and giving and honesty and search of That Greatness who is omniscient and omnipotent and omnipresent -  Subhaan-Allaahi, wa-l-Hamdu li-llaahi, wa laa ilaha illaa-llaahu, wa-llahu akbar. Wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-llaahi-l-ʿaliyyi-l-ʿaazim. You know what I mean.</p>
<p>Yes, I do consider President Pervaiz Musharraf much much better person than all of these crooks around playing politics with our destiny. I hope I do not have to apologize for my opinion like you are free decide as it suits your conviction. By the way I am pain by your reference to Yazid in Pervaiz Musharraf&#8217;s context.</p>
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		<title>By: Talha Lodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76644</link>
		<dc:creator>Talha Lodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber

Thand rakhou!!!!!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber</p>
<p>Thand rakhou!!!!!!!! <img src='http://www.pkhope.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chotta Bao</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/son-of-musharraf-sold-dr-aafia-to-fbi/comment-page-1/#comment-76643</link>
		<dc:creator>Chotta Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber,
This is exactly what I expected from you, no hard feeling.
Carry on, You will realise, learn and understand, soon what I said.
My comments are not negative, rather productive.
Just go through your writings. you will realise young, intelligent girl.
Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber,<br />
This is exactly what I expected from you, no hard feeling.<br />
Carry on, You will realise, learn and understand, soon what I said.<br />
My comments are not negative, rather productive.<br />
Just go through your writings. you will realise young, intelligent girl.<br />
Good Luck</p>
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