Comments on: Shiites the Very Next Victim of W. ON. T or Talibanic Shariah http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/ A Candid Blog Thu, 24 May 2012 20:01:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: nazia http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/comment-page-1/#comment-230471 nazia Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:03:24 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=7551#comment-230471 Irfan There is no confusion about this bloody conflict between two important sects of Islam.In 20th century genocide of shia sunni actually activated by foreign of hands after the successful revolution of Imam kameni .As Iran revolution clearly showed the empowerment of common people against monarchy , tyranny and some how showed the victory of middle working class,.That situation had created disturbance to all typical kings and head of Muslim states at that time as US policy makers was brain washing them against this common man move in their nearby areas..At that time Russian atrocities also made them to think of creating fanatics in this area to act accordingly and here started the birth of talibans that were just acted as killer robots. Saudi kings are right hand men of US strategies in this way.One side they earn Hajj and ummrah money and other side they are draining this money for genocide of other Muslim sects .On and off these killers are used to hit shia community so they couldn't get organize as they did successfully against shah Iran.In 1980s this hatred culture touches it s height and it was great tragedy for us that foreign qualified Benazir closely linked with shai community, enhanced this taliban production under naseerullah babar planning.At that moment some people around them seriously showed apprehensions about their existence in our soil but naseer ullah babar always declared that after our goals these savages would be pushed to neighboring Russians states.Now his planning is failed and these people are very comfortable in our areas.The announcement of handing over swat to these fanatics is one step forward to creation of talibanistan in this area.Hoping for good but trends are very dangerous and painful. Irfan
There is no confusion about this bloody conflict between two important sects of Islam.In 20th century genocide of shia sunni actually activated by foreign of hands after the successful revolution of Imam kameni .As Iran revolution clearly showed the empowerment of common people against monarchy , tyranny and some how showed the victory of middle working class,.That situation had created disturbance to all typical kings and head of Muslim states at that time as US policy makers was brain washing them against this common man move in their nearby areas..At that time Russian atrocities also made them to think of creating fanatics in this area to act accordingly and here started the birth of talibans that were just acted as killer robots.
Saudi kings are right hand men of US strategies in this way.One side they earn Hajj and ummrah money and other side they are draining this money for genocide of other Muslim sects .On and off these killers are used to hit shia community so they couldn’t get organize as they did successfully against shah Iran.In 1980s this hatred culture touches it s height and it was great tragedy for us that foreign qualified Benazir closely linked with shai community, enhanced this taliban production under naseerullah babar planning.At that moment some people around them seriously showed apprehensions about their existence in our soil but naseer ullah babar always declared that after our goals these savages would be pushed to neighboring Russians states.Now his planning is failed and these people are very comfortable in our areas.The announcement of handing over swat to these fanatics is one step forward to creation of talibanistan in this area.Hoping for good but trends are very dangerous and painful.

]]> By: Irfan Mirza http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/comment-page-1/#comment-228925 Irfan Mirza Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:37:40 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=7551#comment-228925 Well this is all confusing. Talibans are not against Shias. Even Iran is being run by Shia Talibans. Difference of opinion may happen in religious practices. The dangerous thing is that a third force is using money and all the resources to ensure that these two forces clash with each other. To some extent these evil forces are successful Well this is all confusing. Talibans are not against Shias. Even Iran is being run by Shia Talibans. Difference of opinion may happen in religious practices.

The dangerous thing is that a third force is using money and all the resources to ensure that these two forces clash with each other. To some extent these evil forces are successful

]]> By: Adi http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/comment-page-1/#comment-228693 Adi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:33:23 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=7551#comment-228693 They have done it. http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86937&sectionid=351020401 They have done it.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86937&sectionid=351020401

]]> By: Adi http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/comment-page-1/#comment-228625 Adi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:57:07 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=7551#comment-228625 Guys read this. http://sify.com/news/imagegallery/galleryDetail.php?hcategory=14684615&hgallery=14816782 Guys read this.

http://sify.com/news/imagegallery/galleryDetail.php?hcategory=14684615&hgallery=14816782

]]> By: Adi http://www.pkhope.com/shiites-the-very-next-victim-of-w-on-t-or-talibanic-shariah/comment-page-1/#comment-228607 Adi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:22:08 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=7551#comment-228607 Raza, Boy you create so much of smoke that it becomes so difficult to read and understand what is the point that you are trying to make. Now with the article above you wanted to say that Shiite's are in danger as Taliban sees them as enemies, right? But in the whole article only one sentence is written about it. Rest of the article is of Afghanistan and Pakistan border and things in Pakistan. You are saying that the Islam as per Taliban is not acceptable, then why in first place are you guys supporting them? Why are people in your country think that Taliban is right and everybody else who is saying that they are bad is looked as enemy? Why are people in Pakistan so lose willed that they cant even think what is good for them and what is not? Why is that they are so much dependent on others? Why do you create armies of people under the name of Islamic fighters and religious fighters and when they get out of your control you start saying they are bad. Taliban is your creation for fighting against Russians in Afghanistan, you supported them for all these years and recognized them and there government. Now when the US have driven them out of Afghanistan after 2001, and they are taking shelter in Pakistan why are you shouting that they are bad? Buddy, you need to start looking and thinking in a different way. Religion is good, they are to be followed by the people who believe in that religion. As I am a Hindu, I follow things that are prescribed to me by my religion (to a extent). Same way people from other religion should also follow religion that they are from. But that does not mean everything will be sorted with the help of religion. You guys raised or released a fatwa on India saying that if India attacks everyone is to fight them as enemy, as they are threatening our sovereignty, and what about these Taliban militants aren't they threatening your sovereignty? They are fighting the state government and central government and setting up their own government structure, and challenging governments status and rule, is this right? Why don't you guys now raise or release a fatwa to fight against Taliban? No you cant do that, because you think they people from your own country or Muslims, that is the same reason why your army also could not fight against them and have accepted the peace treaty and truce by the militants who challenge the government. Raza, you and your fellow countrymen are deep trouble. The people whom you created to fight against somebody else are now fighting with you and defeating you, physically and psychological. They are much more powerful than your army and their will power to fight to win is much more stronger than that of your army to protect their own country. Their is a article in Indian newspaper today, written by some English guy, the main tag line that is highlighted in the article is very interesting it reads something like this "The Pakistani Army is trained and motivated to confront India, not home-grown counterinsurgencies. Pakistani intelligence services are still ambivalent about the Islamic forces they created but can no longer control." Raza and all the people of Pakistan, it is time to wake before it is too late. The people who want to control you, Taliban, can only do that by creating fear in you. If you come out and fight the fear they cannot control you. They want to control people, but if there are no people whom will they control. All you should oppose them openly, they may 10, 20, 100, 1000... at one point they stop doing that. Cause if they continue killing people, no one will be left in the area and also they will be defeated as they will see that people in the area are not afraid of them and they cant control them with fear. Raza, Islam is good, Muslims are good, people of Pakistan are good, people across the world are good. But to look at other person one should not use his religious perspective or glasses. Hope you understand. Raza,

Boy you create so much of smoke that it becomes so difficult to read and understand what is the point that you are trying to make.

Now with the article above you wanted to say that Shiite’s are in danger as Taliban sees them as enemies, right? But in the whole article only one sentence is written about it. Rest of the article is of Afghanistan and Pakistan border and things in Pakistan.

You are saying that the Islam as per Taliban is not acceptable, then why in first place are you guys supporting them? Why are people in your country think that Taliban is right and everybody else who is saying that they are bad is looked as enemy?

Why are people in Pakistan so lose willed that they cant even think what is good for them and what is not? Why is that they are so much dependent on others? Why do you create armies of people under the name of Islamic fighters and religious fighters and when they get out of your control you start saying they are bad. Taliban is your creation for fighting against Russians in Afghanistan, you supported them for all these years and recognized them and there government. Now when the US have driven them out of Afghanistan after 2001, and they are taking shelter in Pakistan why are you shouting that they are bad?

Buddy, you need to start looking and thinking in a different way. Religion is good, they are to be followed by the people who believe in that religion. As I am a Hindu, I follow things that are prescribed to me by my religion (to a extent). Same way people from other religion should also follow religion that they are from. But that does not mean everything will be sorted with the help of religion. You guys raised or released a fatwa on India saying that if India attacks everyone is to fight them as enemy, as they are threatening our sovereignty, and what about these Taliban militants aren’t they threatening your sovereignty? They are fighting the state government and central government and setting up their own government structure, and challenging governments status and rule, is this right? Why don’t you guys now raise or release a fatwa to fight against Taliban? No you cant do that, because you think they people from your own country or Muslims, that is the same reason why your army also could not fight against them and have accepted the peace treaty and truce by the militants who challenge the government.

Raza, you and your fellow countrymen are deep trouble. The people whom you created to fight against somebody else are now fighting with you and defeating you, physically and psychological. They are much more powerful than your army and their will power to fight to win is much more stronger than that of your army to protect their own country.

Their is a article in Indian newspaper today, written by some English guy, the main tag line that is highlighted in the article is very interesting it reads something like this “The Pakistani Army is trained and motivated to confront India, not home-grown counterinsurgencies. Pakistani intelligence services are still ambivalent about the Islamic forces they created but can no longer control.”

Raza and all the people of Pakistan, it is time to wake before it is too late. The people who want to control you, Taliban, can only do that by creating fear in you. If you come out and fight the fear they cannot control you. They want to control people, but if there are no people whom will they control. All you should oppose them openly, they may 10, 20, 100, 1000… at one point they stop doing that. Cause if they continue killing people, no one will be left in the area and also they will be defeated as they will see that people in the area are not afraid of them and they cant control them with fear.

Raza, Islam is good, Muslims are good, people of Pakistan are good, people across the world are good. But to look at other person one should not use his religious perspective or glasses.

Hope you understand.

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