Comments on: Sanctity of Beard http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/ A Candid Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:38:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Hassan Amin http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-454218 Hassan Amin Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:51:39 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-454218 right~! right~!

]]> By: Ibrahim http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-454194 Ibrahim Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:23:09 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-454194 guys, i never wanted generalize the bearded people nor do i imply that anywhere in the article....the point is that indeed we are all humans but the people with beards have more responsibility when they opt to keep a beard because it make them stand out from the crowd....on the same note it does not mean that anybody without a beards can get away by breaking the rules.....so i ask you guys that many bearded people (unfortunately) brand others to be non-muslims so easily without even thinking, is this right ? and who gives them this right ? when will we start taking responsibility for our actions ? guys, i never wanted generalize the bearded people nor do i imply that anywhere in the article….the point is that indeed we are all humans but the people with beards have more responsibility when they opt to keep a beard because it make them stand out from the crowd….on the same note it does not mean that anybody without a beards can get away by breaking the rules…..so i ask you guys that many bearded people (unfortunately) brand others to be non-muslims so easily without even thinking, is this right ? and who gives them this right ? when will we start taking responsibility for our actions ?

]]> By: Oracle http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-450395 Oracle Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:31:17 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-450395 Very factual and near to truth article. Very factual and near to truth article.

]]> By: Salim Sinai http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-450100 Salim Sinai Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:44:12 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-450100 The author makes a valid point. Just by growing an Islamic beard, some people do get the illusion of some sort of moral authority and a licence to get away with more worldly trivial and frivilous rules and trampling upon basic civic and ethical sense. Unbearded people who do about the same atleast make no pretence of being holier than thou. Not that they get off the hook but, yes, it is unfair to generalize the view of all religiously bearded men to be bigots. The author makes a valid point. Just by growing an Islamic beard, some people do get the illusion of some sort of moral authority and a licence to get away with more worldly trivial and frivilous rules and trampling upon basic civic and ethical sense. Unbearded people who do about the same atleast make no pretence of being holier than thou. Not that they get off the hook but, yes, it is unfair to generalize the view of all religiously bearded men to be bigots.

]]> By: Muhammad Ali Sajjad http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-450066 Muhammad Ali Sajjad Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:18:23 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-450066 Dear Hassan Amin (@ 11) i couldnt agree more with you, this is exactly what i am trying to stress upon, that we all humans we all can make mistakes every time, yes everytime . as you said "the lack of civic sense is not just a characteristic of bearded men", it could be anyone Best Regards PS. its not about offence, but when in a conversation it just might seem rude to respond to somebody like this, if Ibrahim choses to not to respond at all , it's entirely up to him, if he is happy , then i am happy :) Dear Hassan Amin (@ 11)

i couldnt agree more with you,
this is exactly what i am trying to stress upon, that we all humans we all can make mistakes every time, yes everytime .
as you said “the lack of civic sense is not just a characteristic of bearded men”, it could be anyone

Best Regards

PS.
its not about offence, but when in a conversation it just might seem rude to respond to somebody like this, if Ibrahim choses to not to respond at all , it’s entirely up to him, if he is happy , then i am happy
:)

]]> By: Hassan Amin http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-450035 Hassan Amin Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:54:29 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-450035 Ibrahim: I agree with you that practising Moslems ought to put in a greater effort to do good for the society as it our religious responsibility as Moslems. In fact, as per Islams Holy teachings, only a good human being can be a good Moslem. What I disagree on is that the lack of civic sense is not just a characteristic of bearded men, but rather an attribute common to majority in our country. And by the way not all bearded men are fanatic Mullahs. Muhammad Ali Sajjad: there's no reason to be offended. Ibrahim:
I agree with you that practising Moslems ought to put in a greater effort to do good for the society as it our religious responsibility as Moslems. In fact, as per Islams Holy teachings, only a good human being can be a good Moslem.

What I disagree on is that the lack of civic sense is not just a characteristic of bearded men, but rather an attribute common to majority in our country. And by the way not all bearded men are fanatic Mullahs.

Muhammad Ali Sajjad:
there’s no reason to be offended.

]]> By: Muhammad Ali Sajjad http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-450023 Muhammad Ali Sajjad Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:37:14 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-450023 Dear Ibrahim, NO Sir ! "’nuff said" is not enough for me, i would expect a more detailed explanation this time around, not a two worded rude response, Best Regards, PS. by saying "makes you a minotiry" and "thanks for the disagreement" you have admitted being biased and having a double standard Dear Ibrahim,

NO Sir ! “’nuff said” is not enough for me, i would expect a more detailed explanation this time around, not a two worded rude response,

Best Regards,

PS.
by saying “makes you a minotiry” and “thanks for the disagreement”
you have admitted being biased and having a double standard

]]> By: Arias http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-449929 Arias Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:43:41 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-449929 >>>>>>>>>>>….i was really expecting an onslaught ! so i am happy that i made you think …now one by one i try to answer…. this (the above lines) is what I was expecting from you Ibrahim there was no onslaught of answers but i am sad you didnt think about what the comments # 3 4 5 7 are saying and you didnt answer any question, if i have missed your point why dont you elaborate IT for me? time to stand by and defend your words simply placing someone in a minority group or asking to read again is not enough ! or are you afraid to face the reality shown to you in the above mentioned comments? sochay bagir bolna.........yeh kaun si numbri hai? >>>>>>>>>>>….i was really expecting an onslaught ! so i am happy that i made you think …now one by one i try to answer….

this (the above lines) is what I was expecting from you Ibrahim

there was no onslaught of answers

but i am sad you didnt think about what the comments # 3 4 5 7 are saying

and you didnt answer any question,

if i have missed your point why dont you elaborate IT for me? time to stand by and defend your words

simply placing someone in a minority group or asking to read again is not enough !
or are you afraid to face the reality shown to you in the above mentioned comments?

sochay bagir bolna………yeh kaun si numbri hai?

]]> By: Ibrahim http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-449703 Ibrahim Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:01:35 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-449703 Thank you guys for all your comments....i was really expecting an onslaught ! :) so i am happy that i made you think ...now one by one i try to answer.... Mr. Ali Sajjad your sentence "unfortuantely this reflects the mindset of most of the pakistanis"....makes you a minotiry....'nuff said ! Arias, i am not talking about our so called leaders, who by the way, supposedly represent the masses...you are missing the whole point and so do you johann....read again please. Mr. Hassan Amin, thanks for the disagreement...i appreciate that. Arias again, you again missed the point....please read again....besides your comments about JJ to which i agree and to whom I apologize for writing about...this was really uncalled for.... Thanks once again, all of you for your critical review ! Thank you guys for all your comments….i was really expecting an onslaught ! :) so i am happy that i made you think …now one by one i try to answer….

Mr. Ali Sajjad your sentence “unfortuantely this reflects the mindset of most of the pakistanis”….makes you a minotiry….’nuff said !

Arias, i am not talking about our so called leaders, who by the way, supposedly represent the masses…you are missing the whole point and so do you johann….read again please.

Mr. Hassan Amin, thanks for the disagreement…i appreciate that.

Arias again, you again missed the point….please read again….besides your comments about JJ to which i agree and to whom I apologize for writing about…this was really uncalled for….

Thanks once again, all of you for your critical review !

]]> By: Arias http://www.pkhope.com/sanctity-of-beard/comment-page-1/#comment-449510 Arias Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:26:15 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=12382#comment-449510 >>>>>>>>>>>>I feel pained when I see a noble looking man with a great white beard breaking a queue so that he can be the first one in line. ibrahim didnt you feel any pain when you saw a man with a WHITE beard,( it means that the person is old because young men dont have a white beard) standing in a line , how come all the other people including you DID NOT show some noblity and put the old man at the front of the queue, did everyone in the line including you, had a dose of anesthesia that everyone had all sensation blocked, or was it too much to ask for? is it too much to sacrifice your place for an old man? why dont you take some responsiblity for being a good human ? is it only upon the bearded to be noble? why associate nobility with a beard? >>>>>>>>>>I see respectable man sporting a beard sending his son to Iqra School to become a Hafiz, yet he never had the time to read the Quran yeah right ! its like i have never been to school so i cant send my son to school can i do this? >>>>>>>>>>>>I see another endorsing potato chips as halal and asking four million rupees whatever Junaid J said was on his behalf, he did not gave a fatwa, did he? it was JJ's will to charge as much as he wanted, it wasnt like he put a gun on someone's forehead to extract money, he quoted his price and the chips company paid it..........whats wrong with the entire process? had this been someone else , some one without a beard, everyone would have praised him for haveing high standards or for being a good business man >>>>>>>>I can go on and on here as the list is very long but I see………hypocrisy! are you not doing what you are condeming?.......hypocrisy? why such a double standard ? grow up man! >>>>>>>>>>>>I feel pained when I see a noble looking man with a great white beard breaking a queue so that he can be the first one in line.

ibrahim didnt you feel any pain when you saw a man with a WHITE beard,( it means that the person is old because young men dont have a white beard) standing in a line ,
how come all the other people including you DID NOT show some noblity and put the old man at the front of the queue,

did everyone in the line including you, had a dose of anesthesia that everyone had all sensation blocked, or was it too much to ask for? is it too much to sacrifice your place for an old man?

why dont you take some responsiblity for being a good human ?
is it only upon the bearded to be noble?
why associate nobility with a beard?

>>>>>>>>>>I see respectable man sporting a beard sending his son to Iqra School to become a Hafiz, yet he never had the time to read the Quran

yeah right !
its like i have never been to school so i cant send my son to school
can i do this?

>>>>>>>>>>>>I see another endorsing potato chips as halal and asking four million rupees

whatever Junaid J said was on his behalf, he did not gave a fatwa, did he?
it was JJ’s will to charge as much as he wanted, it wasnt like he put a gun on someone’s forehead to extract money, he quoted his price and the chips company paid it……….whats wrong with the entire process?

had this been someone else , some one without a beard, everyone would have praised him for haveing high standards or for being a good business man

>>>>>>>>I can go on and on here as the list is very long but I see………hypocrisy!

are you not doing what you are condeming?…….hypocrisy?

why such a double standard ?

grow up man!

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