Comments on: Registrar of NUML versus Students of NUML http://www.pkhope.com/registrar-of-numl-versus-students-of-numl/ A Candid Blog Thu, 24 May 2012 18:44:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: truth may not be common but it is still the truth http://www.pkhope.com/registrar-of-numl-versus-students-of-numl/comment-page-1/#comment-1077490 truth may not be common but it is still the truth Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:39:55 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=21479#comment-1077490 prof. tahir is a 6″2, in his late thirties and retired brigadier is hardly 5″7 and an old man in his late 60’s. Got the comparison,how the hell is it possible for brigadier to beat him, was the professor handicapped..? A lot of questions need to be answered? What was prof tahir doing staying after the closing of university, (university was closed) discussing politics, making personal remarks inciting and that too in the very office of Dr mehmood? Was it not a personal fight between two individual who were discussing politics, with definite and strong stand points and (if it is true at all) that things went overboard? What was the necessity to convert a personal conflict into a political issue? Were a lot of security protocols not violated in case of inviting the guests who were no commoner, but known and imp person that required some assurance of security? (it is a blessing that nothing went wrong) Was it not pre-planned the invitation of the guest, and was the manipulation and distortion of the facts not aimed at? Was it not that more than once prof had made some very personal and insulting comments on the ex-registrar and that too sayz the Dr mehmood in his testimony? Acc. to Dr mehmood’s testimony (on a humorous note) after being beaten malik (prof) went to ranjha and said the most historic thing, “Sir, you are like my father, you can beat me more” If he was such a symbol of forgiveness why so much pomp and show later over asking for forgiveness from ranjha, resignation etc? and also would prof tahir would be as kind to explain if ranjha was like a father to him, would he ever ask for a public apology from his father, or humiliated him or asked for him to resign? This all story seems pretty fishy to me, nothing fits together. And all the justifications for defending the president, who by the way is quite legitimate and accepted already with or without the support of malik, and definitely he doesnot require to be defended by a prof. who cant defend his very self? and stands himself beaten for a while. were so many facts not spin-doctored, and distorted in media, making him a heart patient which he was clearly not, at least not uptill now, stating that every one saw it although the number of witnesses were only countable on the fingers of one hand only, and their very reliability is questionable, also because of their very close association with the prof? ok, prof. should not have reacted by kicking back but at least he could have saved himself, or was it that the brigadier first tied his hands, and his legs and or made him to faint and then kick him. What about so many people, no one could protect him? where was there conscience at that time? or was it that there were infact no witnesses at all,meaning it all could be an insider’s plot. No Students witnessed the actual event happening, the only 4 witnesses according to the testimony of DR. SOHAIL MAHMOOD WERE himself, and 4-5 others and no students at all. Was it just a staged play? and then he was discussing politics, had made personal remarks on ranjha himself,unfairly critisizing and insulting army and not just one indivisual. Not all fingers are alike and generalizing about army, because of one army person that too, retired is illogical. is as illogical as saying that all doctors are murderers or negligent in their duties,just because of criminal negligence of one doctor from ‘doctors hospital’. Now if a doctor reads this do explain how does this statement sound like to you, “Doctory is an institution of severe criminal negligence and murder” it feels irrational and awful, now imagine someone shouting at the top of his lungs, the same very things to you and more over and over and over, how would you feel? defensive and harrassed and pushed to the wall. perhaps if someone has lost a brother, or a father or a husband in the army, its because they were protecting us. We sleep sound because assured are we of men at our defense. our very own protection. A wife or a mother or sister of a shaheed does not want to hear that their loved ones sacrifies had been of no relevance to us because we are thankless, and beleive we are better off. and of all the people the very builders of a society, shouting hideous and shameless remarks just for his own politics, the prof. certainly stands out, because he is an exception, and exception that represents seeped in playing dirty politics, within the very fabric of the noble profession of Teaching. and some exceptions better be taken seriously for the damage it may cause is often tooo collateral. Since a retired brigadier or even a serving one has very little to spoil and with all the checks and balances but a nation cannot afford to have its young minds, distorted, indoctrinated and corrupted, by an exception because in such an occurance the nation will be at risk from the very inside. May Allah have mercy on all of us. prof. tahir is a 6″2, in his late thirties and retired brigadier is hardly 5″7 and an old man in his late 60’s.
Got the comparison,how the hell is it possible for brigadier to beat him, was the professor handicapped..?
A lot of questions need to be answered?
What was prof tahir doing staying after the closing of university, (university was closed) discussing politics, making personal remarks inciting and that too in the very office of Dr mehmood?
Was it not a personal fight between two individual who were discussing politics, with definite and strong stand points and (if it is true at all) that things went overboard?
What was the necessity to convert a personal conflict into a political issue?
Were a lot of security protocols not violated in case of inviting the guests who were no commoner, but known and imp person that required some assurance of security? (it is a blessing that nothing went wrong)
Was it not pre-planned the invitation of the guest, and was the manipulation and distortion of the facts not aimed at?
Was it not that more than once prof had made some very personal and insulting comments on the ex-registrar and that too sayz the Dr mehmood in his testimony?
Acc. to Dr mehmood’s testimony (on a humorous note) after being beaten malik (prof) went to ranjha and said the most historic thing, “Sir, you are like my father, you can beat me more”
If he was such a symbol of forgiveness why so much pomp and show later over asking for forgiveness from ranjha, resignation etc?
and also would prof tahir would be as kind to explain if ranjha was like a father to him, would he ever ask for a public apology from his father, or humiliated him or asked for him to resign?
This all story seems pretty fishy to me, nothing fits together.
And all the justifications for defending the president, who by the way is quite legitimate and accepted already with or without the support of malik, and definitely he doesnot require to be defended by a prof. who cant defend his very self? and stands himself beaten for a while.
were so many facts not spin-doctored, and distorted in media, making him a heart patient which he was clearly not, at least not uptill now, stating that every one saw it although the number of witnesses were only countable on the fingers of one hand only, and their very reliability is questionable, also because of their very close association with the prof?

ok, prof. should not have reacted by kicking back but at least he could have saved himself, or was it that the brigadier first tied his hands, and his legs and or made him to faint and then kick him.
What about so many people, no one could protect him? where was there conscience at that time? or was it that there were infact no witnesses at all,meaning it all could be an insider’s plot. No Students witnessed the actual event happening, the only 4 witnesses according to the testimony of DR. SOHAIL MAHMOOD WERE himself, and 4-5 others and no students at all.
Was it just a staged play?
and then he was discussing politics, had made personal remarks on ranjha himself,unfairly critisizing and insulting army and not just one indivisual.
Not all fingers are alike and generalizing about army, because of one army person that too, retired is illogical. is as illogical as saying that all doctors are murderers or negligent in their duties,just because of criminal negligence of one doctor from ‘doctors hospital’.
Now if a doctor reads this do explain how does this statement sound like to you,
“Doctory is an institution of severe criminal negligence and murder”
it feels irrational and awful, now imagine someone shouting at the top of his lungs, the same very things to you and more over and over and over, how would you feel? defensive and harrassed and pushed to the wall.
perhaps if someone has lost a brother, or a father or a husband in the army, its because they were protecting us.
We sleep sound because assured are we of men at our defense. our very own protection.
A wife or a mother or sister of a shaheed does not want to hear that their loved ones sacrifies had been of no relevance to us because we are thankless, and beleive we are better off.
and of all the people the very builders of a society, shouting hideous and shameless remarks just for his own politics, the prof. certainly stands out, because he is an exception, and exception that represents seeped in playing dirty politics, within the very fabric of the noble profession of Teaching. and some exceptions better be taken seriously for the damage it may cause is often tooo collateral. Since a retired brigadier or even a serving one has very little to spoil and with all the checks and balances but a nation cannot afford to have its young minds, distorted, indoctrinated and corrupted, by an exception because in such an occurance the nation will be at risk from the very inside.
May Allah have mercy on all of us.

]]> By: Shah Jee http://www.pkhope.com/registrar-of-numl-versus-students-of-numl/comment-page-1/#comment-1048543 Shah Jee Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:53:45 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=21479#comment-1048543 Hurrah! Finally we got a week off from university. I am sorry but this is what majority of us (students) take this incident as. We all whole heartedly participated in the movement against Doctor Brigadier (retired) Obaid ullah Ranjha and deepest sympathies are with the poor lecturer of our university Tahir Malik. During the campaign I asked myself several times to go home and relax in front of television but then I was reminded of Quaid-e-azam saying: “I particularly appeal to our intelligentsia and Muslim students to come forward and rise to the occasion. You have performed wonders in the past. You are still capable of repeating the history. You are not lacking in the great qualities and virtues in comparison with the other nations. Only you have to be fully conscious of that fact and to act with courage, faith and unity.” March 23, 1943 Though I stayed in university till the movement was called off but at the end of lackadaisical day i was taking an array of questions to home. Indeed, it was a wasted day in the sense that there were no classes and we all preferred to enjoy in the rain and be a good part of students of other universities who came to rescue our lecturer’s dignity. What bothers me now is, are we fully conscious of facts? We don’t know what made Doctor Sahib take such an immature action. Why our dear lecturer is taking support of media, is it because he has relation in media? Why this matter is not solved in university premises. Certainly, I don’t want a bad name to my university in newspapers or in any news bulletin. Why in the world we are shaping this as an Army issue? It’s our university matter and I think rather I fully trust faculty and administration of NUML to handle this issue appropriately and in dignified manner. I remember few months’ back MPA Shumaila Rana was caught red handed using a stolen credit card and an MNA who was also caught cheating in examination. After a plethora of such event will I be wrong to claim that all politicians are corrupt, if so then why do we again select their respective parties again and again ….? Today, no one can deny from the sacrifice of Pakistan Army at our western borders then why do we have to remember its failures only. In same fashion throughout the campaign we stressed on the resignation of Doctor Brigadier (retired) Ranjha not realizing what he must have done for this university. I don’t support Doctor Ranjha but I want to highlight that as a nation how foolhardily and blindly we follow each other. Knowing well that the inquiry is still under process and we yet have to know who is at fault we (students) are ready to fire Doctor Ranjha. And probably by tomorrow we will be asking our DG and president of this inquiry Doctor Kamran Jhangir to step down from his office and appointment. Hurrah! Finally we got a week off from university. I am sorry but this is what majority of us (students) take this incident as. We all whole heartedly participated in the movement against Doctor Brigadier (retired) Obaid ullah Ranjha and deepest sympathies are with the poor lecturer of our university Tahir Malik. During the campaign I asked myself several times to go home and relax in front of television but then I was reminded of Quaid-e-azam saying:
“I particularly appeal to our intelligentsia and Muslim students to come forward and rise to the occasion. You have performed wonders in the past. You are still capable of repeating the history. You are not lacking in the great qualities and virtues in comparison with the other nations. Only you have to be fully conscious of that fact and to act with courage, faith and unity.”
March 23, 1943
Though I stayed in university till the movement was called off but at the end of lackadaisical day i was taking an array of questions to home. Indeed, it was a wasted day in the sense that there were no classes and we all preferred to enjoy in the rain and be a good part of students of other universities who came to rescue our lecturer’s dignity. What bothers me now is, are we fully conscious of facts? We don’t know what made Doctor Sahib take such an immature action. Why our dear lecturer is taking support of media, is it because he has relation in media? Why this matter is not solved in university premises. Certainly, I don’t want a bad name to my university in newspapers or in any news bulletin. Why in the world we are shaping this as an Army issue? It’s our university matter and I think rather I fully trust faculty and administration of NUML to handle this issue appropriately and in dignified manner.
I remember few months’ back MPA Shumaila Rana was caught red handed using a stolen credit card and an MNA who was also caught cheating in examination. After a plethora of such event will I be wrong to claim that all politicians are corrupt, if so then why do we again select their respective parties again and again ….? Today, no one can deny from the sacrifice of Pakistan Army at our western borders then why do we have to remember its failures only. In same fashion throughout the campaign we stressed on the resignation of Doctor Brigadier (retired) Ranjha not realizing what he must have done for this university. I don’t support Doctor Ranjha but I want to highlight that as a nation how foolhardily and blindly we follow each other. Knowing well that the inquiry is still under process and we yet have to know who is at fault we (students) are ready to fire Doctor Ranjha. And probably by tomorrow we will be asking our DG and president of this inquiry Doctor Kamran Jhangir to step down from his office and appointment.

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