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		<title>By: Muhammad Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-3968373</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As salaamualaikum everyone and may Allah find you all in good Iman. First I would like to share with you a story about a man who was be littleing umar, umar kep t silent and said nothing back to the man. The prophet  muhammad (peace be upon him ) smiled at umar when the man was finished, umar replied to some of what he said, the prophet (peace be upon him ) got up and left lthe masjid, umar followed him and asked why he left and he said when the man was yelling at you I saw a angel come down and sit next ..to. you when you replyed back the angel left and satan took its place..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As salaamualaikum everyone and may Allah find you all in good Iman. First I would like to share with you a story about a man who was be littleing umar, umar kep t silent and said nothing back to the man. The prophet  muhammad (peace be upon him ) smiled at umar when the man was finished, umar replied to some of what he said, the prophet (peace be upon him ) got up and left lthe masjid, umar followed him and asked why he left and he said when the man was yelling at you I saw a angel come down and sit next ..to. you when you replyed back the angel left and satan took its place..</p>
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		<title>By: Zeeshan Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1725470</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeeshan Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Americans Ass hole all Americans Girls Sister and Mothers of America are under my butts</description>
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		<title>By: Pari</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1286863</link>
		<dc:creator>Pari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 18:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Muslims,

see what r u doing to ur own ppl, after reading all of this, i have a feeling that your minds are not open to what other ppl think and how they think not even if he or she is muslim. you want ppl to say what you want to hear. What Nazia stated is what she thinks and whats her knowledge is based on her experience and learnings, but u guys bombarded her as she herself is a great offender to islam or so called muslim who like Salman went straight to abuse her, others telling her to behave like a lady.... wow...see this is how a MAN's behaviour should be towards a woman who has more knowledge than they have. PATIENCE &#38; TOLERANCE is what is needed by all muslim specially men. Is there anyone who could defy  what she wrote about Arabs and their attitude towards other muslims countries.  I think this is the time when even prayers will not work for ppl like you. I have visited that place, there is no bar nor is it called Kaaba Bar, the name is Apple Mecca and dont tell me that taking the name of a city is also offensive to Islam and muslim, secondly since when a cubed shaped building  or entrance that has absolutely no resemblence with kaaba becomes offensive, may be while under construction its glasses were covered with black paper or cardboard  as No. 7 stated or whatever it was, the out come was to be a cube shaped glass building or entrance and that in no way should be offensive to  Islam or Muslims, and so what if its open 24 hours like kaaba, there r so many stores and customer centres that r open for that long to ensure better service, but no one does tawaf around that glass building only tht will make it more like kaaba.

the difference is that no one even tried to find out what the truth is as Peer Khan stated in the Ayat he quoted. without verifying what it was or what it was going to be people with their shallow knowledge and narrow minds came out to say things that is only jeopardising status of muslims in these countries. its just the way some ignorant muslims think and react which is making things difficult and giving impression to non muslims that Islam is an intolerant religion because of these illiterate and ignorant and intolerent ppl who uses Islam as tool and not in its true sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Muslims,</p>
<p>see what r u doing to ur own ppl, after reading all of this, i have a feeling that your minds are not open to what other ppl think and how they think not even if he or she is muslim. you want ppl to say what you want to hear. What Nazia stated is what she thinks and whats her knowledge is based on her experience and learnings, but u guys bombarded her as she herself is a great offender to islam or so called muslim who like Salman went straight to abuse her, others telling her to behave like a lady&#8230;. wow&#8230;see this is how a MAN&#8217;s behaviour should be towards a woman who has more knowledge than they have. PATIENCE &amp; TOLERANCE is what is needed by all muslim specially men. Is there anyone who could defy  what she wrote about Arabs and their attitude towards other muslims countries.  I think this is the time when even prayers will not work for ppl like you. I have visited that place, there is no bar nor is it called Kaaba Bar, the name is Apple Mecca and dont tell me that taking the name of a city is also offensive to Islam and muslim, secondly since when a cubed shaped building  or entrance that has absolutely no resemblence with kaaba becomes offensive, may be while under construction its glasses were covered with black paper or cardboard  as No. 7 stated or whatever it was, the out come was to be a cube shaped glass building or entrance and that in no way should be offensive to  Islam or Muslims, and so what if its open 24 hours like kaaba, there r so many stores and customer centres that r open for that long to ensure better service, but no one does tawaf around that glass building only tht will make it more like kaaba.</p>
<p>the difference is that no one even tried to find out what the truth is as Peer Khan stated in the Ayat he quoted. without verifying what it was or what it was going to be people with their shallow knowledge and narrow minds came out to say things that is only jeopardising status of muslims in these countries. its just the way some ignorant muslims think and react which is making things difficult and giving impression to non muslims that Islam is an intolerant religion because of these illiterate and ignorant and intolerent ppl who uses Islam as tool and not in its true sense.</p>
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		<title>By: mohammad arshad</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1267374</link>
		<dc:creator>mohammad arshad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazia I dont know how much you know about islam but i would like to tell you that, you dont know about islam. And you have no right to give any conclusions that building kaaba bar is not wrong. If somebody tells wrong about you infront of others how you feel. 
              
                     As per my knowledge what ever u said is wrong and you did a sin you should apologise. shame on you....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazia I dont know how much you know about islam but i would like to tell you that, you dont know about islam. And you have no right to give any conclusions that building kaaba bar is not wrong. If somebody tells wrong about you infront of others how you feel. </p>
<p>                     As per my knowledge what ever u said is wrong and you did a sin you should apologise. shame on you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: salman</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1122811</link>
		<dc:creator>salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey...

     this is to nazia..u think u r so smart n intelligent .?? bt jst be shame wht ur saying.u will realize whn dozak in hell in ur language.ur muslim of jst name u said we r low cultured...bt this is only our muslim culture.u will realize that once in hell .i dnt wanna give any bad word bt aftr reading ur view abt td bar u think that ur fast forward person bt ur an asshole....u dnt respect to ur religion tds the god gifted to you respected othr wise u will loose evrything.think seriously.or pray namaz i dnt wanna give u any advice.jst forget everythng nd pray namaz.ALLAHafiz...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey&#8230;</p>
<p>     this is to nazia..u think u r so smart n intelligent .?? bt jst be shame wht ur saying.u will realize whn dozak in hell in ur language.ur muslim of jst name u said we r low cultured&#8230;bt this is only our muslim culture.u will realize that once in hell .i dnt wanna give any bad word bt aftr reading ur view abt td bar u think that ur fast forward person bt ur an asshole&#8230;.u dnt respect to ur religion tds the god gifted to you respected othr wise u will loose evrything.think seriously.or pray namaz i dnt wanna give u any advice.jst forget everythng nd pray namaz.ALLAHafiz&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Khalid</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1086141</link>
		<dc:creator>Khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamo Alaikum by dear borthers and siters,

I just happen to come across this blog. I am a Muslim and I think most of the writers here are also Muslims (if not all). But as many of you have already discussed upon religious teachings of Islam, I would like to raise a point that is common to all religions...

Every religion has its respect. People belonging to any religion, never want to accept an act of insult to their religion ... right ?

I don't know, what is the real intention of 'Apple' by constructing such model (only Allah knows the best), but can anyone answer few questions, especially those persons that think it is no harm to construct such buildings (building, entrence or whatever it is):

1) Why is it the same shape as Muslims' Kaabah ?
2) Why the same name (or atleast same pronounciation) ?
3) Why the word "BAR" is used with its name ? Why not some other word like "workshop" (if it is a repair centre) or "customer center" (if it is meant to deal customer complaints etc) or maybe "store" if this premisis is selling things ? To my little knowledge, I have not seen or heard any computer or I.T. related shop or outlet with the word "BAR" in its name. If anyone knows any such outlet in the world, please correct me.
Next, I looked for meaning of the word "BAR"

I just could not find a single meaning of the word "BAR" that says anything like "a shop that sells or repairs items"...........

So, my dear brothers and siters, why is it "KAABA BAR" ?

The next thing that I would like to say is, if you go through all the above responses and discussions, it seems that we all are argueing and fighting with each other.
I would like to ask:
1) Would we be argueing and fighting, if there be no "KAABA BAR" in the world !!!
2) Is it not an act of insulting Islam and Muslims ?
3) Can people belonging to any religion accept an such act ?
4) Is it not that they want us to get aggressive and show anger ?

In the end, I would like to request people of all religions to think about it and condemn such unethical acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamo Alaikum by dear borthers and siters,</p>
<p>I just happen to come across this blog. I am a Muslim and I think most of the writers here are also Muslims (if not all). But as many of you have already discussed upon religious teachings of Islam, I would like to raise a point that is common to all religions&#8230;</p>
<p>Every religion has its respect. People belonging to any religion, never want to accept an act of insult to their religion &#8230; right ?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, what is the real intention of &#8216;Apple&#8217; by constructing such model (only Allah knows the best), but can anyone answer few questions, especially those persons that think it is no harm to construct such buildings (building, entrence or whatever it is):</p>
<p>1) Why is it the same shape as Muslims&#8217; Kaabah ?<br />
2) Why the same name (or atleast same pronounciation) ?<br />
3) Why the word &#8220;BAR&#8221; is used with its name ? Why not some other word like &#8220;workshop&#8221; (if it is a repair centre) or &#8220;customer center&#8221; (if it is meant to deal customer complaints etc) or maybe &#8220;store&#8221; if this premisis is selling things ? To my little knowledge, I have not seen or heard any computer or I.T. related shop or outlet with the word &#8220;BAR&#8221; in its name. If anyone knows any such outlet in the world, please correct me.<br />
Next, I looked for meaning of the word &#8220;BAR&#8221;</p>
<p>I just could not find a single meaning of the word &#8220;BAR&#8221; that says anything like &#8220;a shop that sells or repairs items&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>So, my dear brothers and siters, why is it &#8220;KAABA BAR&#8221; ?</p>
<p>The next thing that I would like to say is, if you go through all the above responses and discussions, it seems that we all are argueing and fighting with each other.<br />
I would like to ask:<br />
1) Would we be argueing and fighting, if there be no &#8220;KAABA BAR&#8221; in the world !!!<br />
2) Is it not an act of insulting Islam and Muslims ?<br />
3) Can people belonging to any religion accept an such act ?<br />
4) Is it not that they want us to get aggressive and show anger ?</p>
<p>In the end, I would like to request people of all religions to think about it and condemn such unethical acts.</p>
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		<title>By: hasnain</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-1076234</link>
		<dc:creator>hasnain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some people defending west &#38; some ISLAM but my view is that if v the muslims follow ISLAM in its O R I G I N A L shape no one can do things like that. but v r not the real followers of MUHAMMAD SAW ( in our todays lifestyle) so how v defend ISLAM. no outlook difference between us &#38; non muslims so why v r defending ISLAM. my brothers &#38; sisters first of all v all including me follow the SUNNAT then thats my believe no one can do these things. PRAY FOR ALL MUSLIMS TO OBET ISLAM IN ITS REAL SHAPE &#38; FOLLOW MUHAMMAD SAW SUNNAT MAY ALLAH HELP US AMEEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some people defending west &amp; some ISLAM but my view is that if v the muslims follow ISLAM in its O R I G I N A L shape no one can do things like that. but v r not the real followers of MUHAMMAD SAW ( in our todays lifestyle) so how v defend ISLAM. no outlook difference between us &amp; non muslims so why v r defending ISLAM. my brothers &amp; sisters first of all v all including me follow the SUNNAT then thats my believe no one can do these things. PRAY FOR ALL MUSLIMS TO OBET ISLAM IN ITS REAL SHAPE &amp; FOLLOW MUHAMMAD SAW SUNNAT MAY ALLAH HELP US AMEEN</p>
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		<title>By: Nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-927685</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@11
 I am actually against that concept of wahbism that is in hands of Saudis.
This anger was developed when I had a chance to stayed for a while in Saudia.
Here I realized that how they have restricted the women in houses, depending on their male mahram all the time for outside activities.
I had also seen the dance and wine parties of rich arab families where no one is stopped as no state  law can be applied on them and only valid for poor and weak Muslims..
Thanks to my family who had never opted to prefer money soaked slavery in the name of working there as I am sure if I had to stay there I would had surely killed any saudi  who try to harass women at all places or spent rest of life in any Saudi jail.
Second thing which I read through history pages that in all wars either between Muslims or with non Muslims Saudi funding  was made to promote extremism by enhancing the hate and sentiments of warriors through typical religious faith.
The leaders of Wahhabism all time praised these warriors but they themselves always opt western life styles, sumptuous living and sinful life for themslevs.
In Pakistan this trend in some how different.
Zia ul haq surely given them enormous powers but they couldnt penetrate in typical liberal culture of Pakistan or might be here growth of other sects is so strong that have countered their affects and teaching.
 But you see influence of dictatorship for pleasing US in form of tehrik Taliban and then MMA has already created havoc in our deprived areas where large deprived community has followed there theme and now hunting all who are not accepting them.
so that all make wrong concept under Wahhabi sect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11<br />
 I am actually against that concept of wahbism that is in hands of Saudis.<br />
This anger was developed when I had a chance to stayed for a while in Saudia.<br />
Here I realized that how they have restricted the women in houses, depending on their male mahram all the time for outside activities.<br />
I had also seen the dance and wine parties of rich arab families where no one is stopped as no state  law can be applied on them and only valid for poor and weak Muslims..<br />
Thanks to my family who had never opted to prefer money soaked slavery in the name of working there as I am sure if I had to stay there I would had surely killed any saudi  who try to harass women at all places or spent rest of life in any Saudi jail.<br />
Second thing which I read through history pages that in all wars either between Muslims or with non Muslims Saudi funding  was made to promote extremism by enhancing the hate and sentiments of warriors through typical religious faith.<br />
The leaders of Wahhabism all time praised these warriors but they themselves always opt western life styles, sumptuous living and sinful life for themslevs.<br />
In Pakistan this trend in some how different.<br />
Zia ul haq surely given them enormous powers but they couldnt penetrate in typical liberal culture of Pakistan or might be here growth of other sects is so strong that have countered their affects and teaching.<br />
 But you see influence of dictatorship for pleasing US in form of tehrik Taliban and then MMA has already created havoc in our deprived areas where large deprived community has followed there theme and now hunting all who are not accepting them.<br />
so that all make wrong concept under Wahhabi sect.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-927581</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just talked to a architect who visited this white transparent building in last days and conformed all what I say in my first comment.She told me that building is totally matching with  standard apple designs for its all buildings all over the world like sleek, trim , with straight  glass corners etc and technically it is no way linking with original design of kaaba made with stones.
So I think some complex Muslims are trying to over come their inferiority complex by projecting this baseless issues and it would surely create lot of problems for Muslim community who are peacefully living in these areas from generation to generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just talked to a architect who visited this white transparent building in last days and conformed all what I say in my first comment.She told me that building is totally matching with  standard apple designs for its all buildings all over the world like sleek, trim , with straight  glass corners etc and technically it is no way linking with original design of kaaba made with stones.<br />
So I think some complex Muslims are trying to over come their inferiority complex by projecting this baseless issues and it would surely create lot of problems for Muslim community who are peacefully living in these areas from generation to generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamran Ashraf</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/petition-against-kaaba-bar-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-927573</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamran Ashraf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dralshaer: Instead of acting like an old angry woman, you should point out the deficiencies of this site, and then provide your suggestions for improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dralshaer: Instead of acting like an old angry woman, you should point out the deficiencies of this site, and then provide your suggestions for improvement.</p>
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