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		<title>By: indo</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-1560777</link>
		<dc:creator>indo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pak cant be secular .........never</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pak cant be secular &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;never</p>
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		<title>By: YLH</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-1431865</link>
		<dc:creator>YLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.

I have the original speech that Quaid-e-Azam made in response to Mountbatten on 13th August .  At no point does he say 'no to Akbar'.  He infact said that "tolerance shown by Emperor Akbar dates back to the Holy Prophet".

Have some shame ...  lying about Quaid-e-Azam all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
<p>I have the original speech that Quaid-e-Azam made in response to Mountbatten on 13th August .  At no point does he say &#8216;no to Akbar&#8217;.  He infact said that &#8220;tolerance shown by Emperor Akbar dates back to the Holy Prophet&#8221;.</p>
<p>Have some shame &#8230;  lying about Quaid-e-Azam all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-496964</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak Free

# 27

Do not worry about (which you say) that I have lost….Go for what I have got for you and ponder upon it---- if you can.

Muslims do not loose or ever become a victim; they are the victors ----------always.

Bahaar hou, keh Khizaan; La illa ha Illalah.

May there be the fragrant filled lush green expanse of lavish flowery beds spread all over in the spring or it is fall time---- that even the leaves of the tree leaves them naked bare; Muslim are always victors, happy and know only to bow to the One--the omnipotent God Almighty.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak Free</p>
<p># 27</p>
<p>Do not worry about (which you say) that I have lost….Go for what I have got for you and ponder upon it&#8212;- if you can.</p>
<p>Muslims do not loose or ever become a victim; they are the victors &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-always.</p>
<p>Bahaar hou, keh Khizaan; La illa ha Illalah.</p>
<p>May there be the fragrant filled lush green expanse of lavish flowery beds spread all over in the spring or it is fall time&#8212;- that even the leaves of the tree leaves them naked bare; Muslim are always victors, happy and know only to bow to the One&#8211;the omnipotent God Almighty.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-496951</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>133 above 114 surah are called 'Chapters'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>133 above 114 surah are called &#8216;Chapters&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-496950</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sid,

You have quoted:  “”"Islam is a religion chosen by God Almighty for the entire mankind;”"”

Yes; this is what Allah says. Please go to #125 above, all the references given there are from the Glorious Quran. There are 30 parts of Quran and some 114 Surahs.

Quran is neither a book of history nor its is a book of sciences but this is a  Glorious book which contains wisdom  and light covering all the aspects of life and very elaborately explains the day to day life event where the believer were requiring a particular directions. So the revelation of Quran is stretched over a long period of the Messenger time; Prophet Muhammad which is about  23 years.


To understand the truth and wisdom which lies in a particular Surah revealed, we need to be well versed with the history and the environments under which a surah was revealed, other wise we may not be able to retrieve the true Hikmah (wisdom) from a subject verse. 

Any how it is the beauty of Quran that where it gives a definitive direction on the spot to a particular problem at the time of prophet Muhammad; it also addresses the wider audiences and invites them to ponder upon with all their sincerity and take a heed to put their own lives on the right path in the light of each and every lesson explained and learnt.

Islam at its base is a religion for very learned and enlightened people but it is hard fact that general Muslim masses in all the country with exception of few are mostly illiterate and their knowledge about the Muslim history is very sketchy and thus Islam is seen merely reduced to some general cultural rituals of orthodoxy and practices only.

As it is required that to best understand the Quran; one must learn about the history that how Rasool e karim (pbuh) conducted the Muslim’s affairs. 

To learn more about Islam; Islam must be evaluated as a religion at its base and not by the conduct of any Muslim person that we know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sid,</p>
<p>You have quoted:  “”&#8221;Islam is a religion chosen by God Almighty for the entire mankind;”&#8221;”</p>
<p>Yes; this is what Allah says. Please go to #125 above, all the references given there are from the Glorious Quran. There are 30 parts of Quran and some 114 Surahs.</p>
<p>Quran is neither a book of history nor its is a book of sciences but this is a  Glorious book which contains wisdom  and light covering all the aspects of life and very elaborately explains the day to day life event where the believer were requiring a particular directions. So the revelation of Quran is stretched over a long period of the Messenger time; Prophet Muhammad which is about  23 years.</p>
<p>To understand the truth and wisdom which lies in a particular Surah revealed, we need to be well versed with the history and the environments under which a surah was revealed, other wise we may not be able to retrieve the true Hikmah (wisdom) from a subject verse. </p>
<p>Any how it is the beauty of Quran that where it gives a definitive direction on the spot to a particular problem at the time of prophet Muhammad; it also addresses the wider audiences and invites them to ponder upon with all their sincerity and take a heed to put their own lives on the right path in the light of each and every lesson explained and learnt.</p>
<p>Islam at its base is a religion for very learned and enlightened people but it is hard fact that general Muslim masses in all the country with exception of few are mostly illiterate and their knowledge about the Muslim history is very sketchy and thus Islam is seen merely reduced to some general cultural rituals of orthodoxy and practices only.</p>
<p>As it is required that to best understand the Quran; one must learn about the history that how Rasool e karim (pbuh) conducted the Muslim’s affairs. </p>
<p>To learn more about Islam; Islam must be evaluated as a religion at its base and not by the conduct of any Muslim person that we know.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Fellows,

Even if India does it, and we criticize them, that does not means that we do the same. We must do opposite of it showing tolerance &#38; liberty......only this way we'll have right to criticize them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Fellows,</p>
<p>Even if India does it, and we criticize them, that does not means that we do the same. We must do opposite of it showing tolerance &amp; liberty&#8230;&#8230;only this way we&#8217;ll have right to criticize them.</p>
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		<title>By: RashadZAli</title>
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		<dc:creator>RashadZAli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakistan needs an INDEPENDENT way of thinking rather than making themselves slaves to outsiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan needs an INDEPENDENT way of thinking rather than making themselves slaves to outsiders.</p>
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		<title>By: RashadZAli</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/pakistan-a-secular-state/comment-page-1/#comment-491945</link>
		<dc:creator>RashadZAli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It is only now that the world’s first anti-extremist Think Tank has come into being. Quilliam Foundation is a UK based Think Tank that is actively educating young people ( who are at a greater risk of being captivated by the rhetoric of fanatics), on the true teachings of Islam thereby refuting any doubts and misconceptions spread by extremist Moulvis and fanatic Pan-Islamists. "

The "Quilliam Foundation" is nothing more than a British govt. funded entity designed to stifle resistance of Muslims/Islam to British and American foreign policy in the region:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5549138.ece

and it fits in with what CIA/State Dept. types have been advocating for Pakistan:

"State Sponsored Sufism" :
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4993

(I thought in secularism, there was supposed to be NO interference by the state in matters of religion????)

It is about as "independent" as Hamid Karzai is from U.S. control in Afghanistan. Further, the co-director, Mr. "Ed" (I-changed-my-name-because-I-am-ashamed-of -being Muslim) Hussain has:

1.  Gone on record as having supported the Iraq war but not the aftermath or handling of it.
2.  Poured cold water on the idea that western policy in the Muslim world makes terror attacks in Britain and elsewhere more likely,
3.  Wants caps on immigration and thinks too many non-white (Pakistani/Bengali/Somali) people are in the UK
4. He has no truck with the idea of Islamophobia, which he dismisses as the “squeal of an Islamist leadership pleading special favours”
5. On issues such as segregation, he is confident it is the fault of multiculturalism.

source:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/21/allmodcons
             http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/anyquestions_transcripts_20080229.shtml

these guys are following in the footsteps of other British lackeys (Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, Nehru, etc.).

Pakistan needs AN INDEPENDENT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is only now that the world’s first anti-extremist Think Tank has come into being. Quilliam Foundation is a UK based Think Tank that is actively educating young people ( who are at a greater risk of being captivated by the rhetoric of fanatics), on the true teachings of Islam thereby refuting any doubts and misconceptions spread by extremist Moulvis and fanatic Pan-Islamists. &#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Quilliam Foundation&#8221; is nothing more than a British govt. funded entity designed to stifle resistance of Muslims/Islam to British and American foreign policy in the region:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5549138.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5549138.ece</a></p>
<p>and it fits in with what CIA/State Dept. types have been advocating for Pakistan:</p>
<p>&#8220;State Sponsored Sufism&#8221; :<br />
<a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4993" rel="nofollow">http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4993</a></p>
<p>(I thought in secularism, there was supposed to be NO interference by the state in matters of religion????)</p>
<p>It is about as &#8220;independent&#8221; as Hamid Karzai is from U.S. control in Afghanistan. Further, the co-director, Mr. &#8220;Ed&#8221; (I-changed-my-name-because-I-am-ashamed-of -being Muslim) Hussain has:</p>
<p>1.  Gone on record as having supported the Iraq war but not the aftermath or handling of it.<br />
2.  Poured cold water on the idea that western policy in the Muslim world makes terror attacks in Britain and elsewhere more likely,<br />
3.  Wants caps on immigration and thinks too many non-white (Pakistani/Bengali/Somali) people are in the UK<br />
4. He has no truck with the idea of Islamophobia, which he dismisses as the “squeal of an Islamist leadership pleading special favours”<br />
5. On issues such as segregation, he is confident it is the fault of multiculturalism.</p>
<p>source:  <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/21/allmodcons" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/21/allmodcons</a><br />
             <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/anyquestions_transcripts_20080229.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/anyquestions_transcripts_20080229.shtml</a></p>
<p>these guys are following in the footsteps of other British lackeys (Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, Nehru, etc.).</p>
<p>Pakistan needs AN INDEPENDENT</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"""Islam is a religion chosen by God Almighty for the entire mankind;"""

With all due respect, i never understand this statement.  It sounds so illogical to me.  Only a person with faith can accept it as truth.  Forgive me if it hurts your feelings, because that statement raises so many questions in me.  If nobody alive has seen or talked with GOD, how can one know what GOD has chosen?

Is that statement really from Quran?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Islam is a religion chosen by God Almighty for the entire mankind;&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>With all due respect, i never understand this statement.  It sounds so illogical to me.  Only a person with faith can accept it as truth.  Forgive me if it hurts your feelings, because that statement raises so many questions in me.  If nobody alive has seen or talked with GOD, how can one know what GOD has chosen?</p>
<p>Is that statement really from Quran?</p>
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		<title>By: Speak Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speak Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever you are out of words you quote Quran. Why do you have to do that?

This is what I talk about when I say religion is once personal matter and not the topic of public discussion. This cause problems with people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever you are out of words you quote Quran. Why do you have to do that?</p>
<p>This is what I talk about when I say religion is once personal matter and not the topic of public discussion. This cause problems with people.</p>
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