Comments on: NUML rector snatches cell phone from female teacher http://www.pkhope.com/numl-rector-snatches-cell-phone-from-female-teacher/ A Candid Blog Thu, 24 May 2012 13:56:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: MUHAMMAD IKRAM http://www.pkhope.com/numl-rector-snatches-cell-phone-from-female-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-2384602 MUHAMMAD IKRAM Sat, 28 May 2011 18:34:08 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=21498#comment-2384602 Its another example of Dictatorship at NUML, which has been a money making machine for several years by its deceitful policies.I know a student graduated from NUML who was late for depositing his final thesis University charged him three full semesters fee for penalty of being late which he was unable to pay.He has done MBA but still have no degree.His career has been ruined only for being late at depositing his final internship report.This is a disgrace of noble proffesion Its another example of Dictatorship at NUML, which has been a money making machine for several years by its deceitful policies.I know a student graduated from NUML who was late for depositing his final thesis University charged him three full semesters fee for penalty of being late which he was unable to pay.He has done MBA but still have no degree.His career has been ruined only for being late at depositing his final internship report.This is a disgrace of noble proffesion

]]> By: Imran Ajmal http://www.pkhope.com/numl-rector-snatches-cell-phone-from-female-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1082602 Imran Ajmal Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:31:52 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=21498#comment-1082602 This was only an act to destroy the air of an otherwise peaceful university.. I wonder how many universities have had absolutely no history of unrest among students and teachers.I guess many people now have their dreams come true. So Congratulations to them! After reading the testimony of Dr Sohail Mahmood, I can only ask that being the Head of Department and an advocate of the highest order of PEACE AND CONFLICT MANAGEMENT, is this the way to handle an issue that arises in your department. If two people fight in your department (a department that is hardly 5 years old), do you call students to rescue you? Do you tell your subordinates to climb on the gates and scream on top of their voices? do you call press to give a bad name to the very university you call yourself a sincere employee of...I always thought that your workplace was your second home.. Even an 8 year old would never say that his parents had a fight. Anyone who has followed the incident with a tiny bit of common sense would realize that a drama of such a high impact was created only to benefit some individuals who are now so proud to call this whole scene the "freedom of speech", "humanitarian action against voilence".. or whatever popular name you want to give it! I agree with the comment above that I have spent a considerable time of my academic life in NUML and I feel that it is time that we teach our next generation that this is not the way to MANAGE ANY CONFLICT! The coward professor should not have shielded himself through the minds of students. They are still in their formative years, This is not the time for them to raise slogans and miss the precious time they have for their studies. It is the responsibility of the adults who have spend a lot of time in their professional lives to handle their matters themselves. We all know that we are responsible for our own deeds and we will be answerable only for our responsibilities. So as students, we are very well aware of our responsibilities and we will never be answerable for what the administration and faculty are fighting about! I am afraid that this incident will have long lasting effects because once a political chaos starts in an institution, the integrity of the entire institution is put under risk. It is the duty of both, the teachers and the students to try and control such situations! I believe that we are a nation of people with big hearts. Hearts to forgive eachother and move on. These things are too petty to even discuss during lunch time. I am a hundred percent sure that the negative image portrayed of NUML are the thoughts of only a few people. May Allah bring peace in the hearts and minds of this University's Administration, The Faculty and most importantly the Students! This was only an act to destroy the air of an otherwise peaceful university.. I wonder how many universities have had absolutely no history of unrest among students and teachers.I guess many people now have their dreams come true. So Congratulations to them! After reading the testimony of Dr Sohail Mahmood, I can only ask that being the Head of Department and an advocate of the highest order of PEACE AND CONFLICT MANAGEMENT, is this the way to handle an issue that arises in your department. If two people fight in your department (a department that is hardly 5 years old), do you call students to rescue you? Do you tell your subordinates to climb on the gates and scream on top of their voices? do you call press to give a bad name to the very university you call yourself a sincere employee of…I always thought that your workplace was your second home.. Even an 8 year old would never say that his parents had a fight.

Anyone who has followed the incident with a tiny bit of common sense would realize that a drama of such a high impact was created only to benefit some individuals who are now so proud to call this whole scene the “freedom of speech”, “humanitarian action against voilence”.. or whatever popular name you want to give it!

I agree with the comment above that I have spent a considerable time of my academic life in NUML and I feel that it is time that we teach our next generation that this is not the way to MANAGE ANY CONFLICT! The coward professor should not have shielded himself through the minds of students. They are still in their formative years, This is not the time for them to raise slogans and miss the precious time they have for their studies. It is the responsibility of the adults who have spend a lot of time in their professional lives to handle their matters themselves. We all know that we are responsible for our own deeds and we will be answerable only for our responsibilities. So as students, we are very well aware of our responsibilities and we will never be answerable for what the administration and faculty are fighting about!

I am afraid that this incident will have long lasting effects because once a political chaos starts in an institution, the integrity of the entire institution is put under risk. It is the duty of both, the teachers and the students to try and control such situations!

I believe that we are a nation of people with big hearts. Hearts to forgive eachother and move on. These things are too petty to even discuss during lunch time. I am a hundred percent sure that the negative image portrayed of NUML are the thoughts of only a few people.

May Allah bring peace in the hearts and minds of this University’s Administration, The Faculty and most importantly the Students!

]]> By: truth may not be common but it is still the truth http://www.pkhope.com/numl-rector-snatches-cell-phone-from-female-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1077499 truth may not be common but it is still the truth Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:44:22 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/?p=21498#comment-1077499 prof. tahir is a 6″2, in his late thirties and retired brigadier is hardly 5″7 and an old man in his late 60’s. Got the comparison,how the hell is it possible for brigadier to beat him, was the professor handicapped..? A lot of questions need to be answered? What was prof tahir doing staying after the closing of university, (university was closed) discussing politics, making personal remarks inciting and that too in the very office of Dr mehmood? Was it not a personal fight between two individual who were discussing politics, with definite and strong stand points and (if it is true at all) that things went overboard? What was the necessity to convert a personal conflict into a political issue? Were a lot of security protocols not violated in case of inviting the guests who were no commoner, but known and imp person that required some assurance of security? (it is a blessing that nothing went wrong) Was it not pre-planned the invitation of the guest, and was the manipulation and distortion of the facts not aimed at? Was it not that more than once prof had made some very personal and insulting comments on the ex-registrar and that too sayz the Dr mehmood in his testimony? Acc. to Dr mehmood’s testimony (on a humorous note) after being beaten malik (prof) went to ranjha and said the most historic thing, “Sir, you are like my father, you can beat me more” If he was such a symbol of forgiveness why so much pomp and show later over asking for forgiveness from ranjha, resignation etc? and also would prof tahir would be as kind to explain if ranjha was like a father to him, would he ever ask for a public apology from his father, or humiliated him or asked for him to resign? This all story seems pretty fishy to me, nothing fits together. And all the justifications for defending the president, who by the way is quite legitimate and accepted already with or without the support of malik, and definitely he doesnot require to be defended by a prof. who cant defend his very self? and stands himself beaten for a while. were so many facts not spin-doctored, and distorted in media, making him a heart patient which he was clearly not, at least not uptill now, stating that every one saw it although the number of witnesses were only countable on the fingers of one hand only, and their very reliability is questionable, also because of their very close association with the prof? ok, prof. should not have reacted by kicking back but at least he could have saved himself, or was it that the brigadier first tied his hands, and his legs and or made him to faint and then kick him. What about so many people, no one could protect him? where was there conscience at that time? or was it that there were infact no witnesses at all,meaning it all could be an insider’s plot. No Students witnessed the actual event happening, the only 4 witnesses according to the testimony of DR. SOHAIL MAHMOOD WERE himself, and 4-5 others and no students at all. Was it just a staged play? and then he was discussing politics, had made personal remarks on ranjha himself,unfairly critisizing and insulting army and not just one indivisual. Not all fingers are alike and generalizing about army, because of one army person that too, retired is illogical. is as illogical as saying that all doctors are murderers or negligent in their duties,just because of criminal negligence of one doctor from ‘doctors hospital’. Now if a doctor reads this do explain how does this statement sound like to you, “Doctory is an institution of severe criminal negligence and murder” it feels irrational and awful, now imagine someone shouting at the top of his lungs, the same very things to you and more over and over and over, how would you feel? defensive and harrassed and pushed to the wall. perhaps if someone has lost a brother, or a father or a husband in the army, its because they were protecting us. We sleep sound because assured are we of men at our defense. our very own protection. A wife or a mother or sister of a shaheed does not want to hear that their loved ones sacrifies had been of no relevance to us because we are thankless, and beleive we are better off. and of all the people the very builders of a society, shouting hideous and shameless remarks just for his own politics, the prof. certainly stands out, because he is an exception, and exception that represents seeped in playing dirty politics, within the very fabric of the noble profession of Teaching. and some exceptions better be taken seriously for the damage it may cause is often tooo collateral. Since a retired brigadier or even a serving one has very little to spoil and with all the checks and balances but a nation cannot afford to have its young minds, distorted, indoctrinated and corrupted, by an exception because in such an occurance the nation will be at risk from the very inside. May Allah have mercy on all of us. prof. tahir is a 6″2, in his late thirties and retired brigadier is hardly 5″7 and an old man in his late 60’s.
Got the comparison,how the hell is it possible for brigadier to beat him, was the professor handicapped..?
A lot of questions need to be answered?
What was prof tahir doing staying after the closing of university, (university was closed) discussing politics, making personal remarks inciting and that too in the very office of Dr mehmood?
Was it not a personal fight between two individual who were discussing politics, with definite and strong stand points and (if it is true at all) that things went overboard?
What was the necessity to convert a personal conflict into a political issue?
Were a lot of security protocols not violated in case of inviting the guests who were no commoner, but known and imp person that required some assurance of security? (it is a blessing that nothing went wrong)
Was it not pre-planned the invitation of the guest, and was the manipulation and distortion of the facts not aimed at?
Was it not that more than once prof had made some very personal and insulting comments on the ex-registrar and that too sayz the Dr mehmood in his testimony?
Acc. to Dr mehmood’s testimony (on a humorous note) after being beaten malik (prof) went to ranjha and said the most historic thing, “Sir, you are like my father, you can beat me more”
If he was such a symbol of forgiveness why so much pomp and show later over asking for forgiveness from ranjha, resignation etc?
and also would prof tahir would be as kind to explain if ranjha was like a father to him, would he ever ask for a public apology from his father, or humiliated him or asked for him to resign?
This all story seems pretty fishy to me, nothing fits together.
And all the justifications for defending the president, who by the way is quite legitimate and accepted already with or without the support of malik, and definitely he doesnot require to be defended by a prof. who cant defend his very self? and stands himself beaten for a while.
were so many facts not spin-doctored, and distorted in media, making him a heart patient which he was clearly not, at least not uptill now, stating that every one saw it although the number of witnesses were only countable on the fingers of one hand only, and their very reliability is questionable, also because of their very close association with the prof?

ok, prof. should not have reacted by kicking back but at least he could have saved himself, or was it that the brigadier first tied his hands, and his legs and or made him to faint and then kick him.
What about so many people, no one could protect him? where was there conscience at that time? or was it that there were infact no witnesses at all,meaning it all could be an insider’s plot. No Students witnessed the actual event happening, the only 4 witnesses according to the testimony of DR. SOHAIL MAHMOOD WERE himself, and 4-5 others and no students at all.
Was it just a staged play?
and then he was discussing politics, had made personal remarks on ranjha himself,unfairly critisizing and insulting army and not just one indivisual.
Not all fingers are alike and generalizing about army, because of one army person that too, retired is illogical. is as illogical as saying that all doctors are murderers or negligent in their duties,just because of criminal negligence of one doctor from ‘doctors hospital’.
Now if a doctor reads this do explain how does this statement sound like to you,
“Doctory is an institution of severe criminal negligence and murder”
it feels irrational and awful, now imagine someone shouting at the top of his lungs, the same very things to you and more over and over and over, how would you feel? defensive and harrassed and pushed to the wall.
perhaps if someone has lost a brother, or a father or a husband in the army, its because they were protecting us.
We sleep sound because assured are we of men at our defense. our very own protection.
A wife or a mother or sister of a shaheed does not want to hear that their loved ones sacrifies had been of no relevance to us because we are thankless, and beleive we are better off.
and of all the people the very builders of a society, shouting hideous and shameless remarks just for his own politics, the prof. certainly stands out, because he is an exception, and exception that represents seeped in playing dirty politics, within the very fabric of the noble profession of Teaching. and some exceptions better be taken seriously for the damage it may cause is often tooo collateral. Since a retired brigadier or even a serving one has very little to spoil and with all the checks and balances but a nation cannot afford to have its young minds, distorted, indoctrinated and corrupted, by an exception because in such an occurance the nation will be at risk from the very inside.
May Allah have mercy on all of us.

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