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		<title>By: shia-pakistan</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/nrisnon-resident-pakistanibangladeshi-one-of-a-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-148569</link>
		<dc:creator>shia-pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have met a lot of pakistanies. each and everybody has got hatred towards other races and sects. like i have heard punjabis saying that pathans sell their girls (brides’ family taking money from the groom) and pathan saying punjabis are from hindus. i have come accross quite a few sind, muhajer and baluch who are real separationist. 

look creation of pakistan was orchastrated by the west. you might wonder why? undivided india meant muslim being the majority after few decades, two most populous states bengal and punjab being muslim majority and hence muslims having significant influence in the parliament.

how do the west materialised their plan:
Giving real strength to the minority sect’s elites.
just like what happened in iraq (sunni minority having run vastly shia majority iraq), and syria (alawi shia asad familty runing nearly 90% sunni syria). look jinnah was born in aga khani shia family but later he practised ithna ashri or main shia sects though. jinnah and the then aga khan founded Muslim league. Later Bhutto who was from an elite shia family founded PPP. Benojir and her husband are shias. look first 3 prime minister of pakistan was shias so as the head of the military. Zia-ul-haq was the first sunni strong man of pakistan. another thing Zinnah’s only child dinna zinnah married a parsic christian from india (divorced after a few years though) and converted to christianity and had been practising christianity since then. if you dont believe these things, search for your own.
Shia-pakistan
December 26, 2008 at 4:10 pm 
Pakistanis are very much misguided nation. Its female literacy rate is lower than bangladesh now. In terms of overall literacy rate bangladesh is gaining ground rapidly whereas pakistan is falling behind. and under 5-year old child death rate per 1000: according to 2005 UN statistics bangladesh had 68 deaths whereas pakistan had 105. 

it is clear from recent events that west is going to materialise disintegration of pakistan in a few years time into: baluchistan , frontier, sind, panjab etc.. if you think it will be possible for a largely illiterate country to defend itself then you are the foolest person to be on the face of earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have met a lot of pakistanies. each and everybody has got hatred towards other races and sects. like i have heard punjabis saying that pathans sell their girls (brides’ family taking money from the groom) and pathan saying punjabis are from hindus. i have come accross quite a few sind, muhajer and baluch who are real separationist. </p>
<p>look creation of pakistan was orchastrated by the west. you might wonder why? undivided india meant muslim being the majority after few decades, two most populous states bengal and punjab being muslim majority and hence muslims having significant influence in the parliament.</p>
<p>how do the west materialised their plan:<br />
Giving real strength to the minority sect’s elites.<br />
just like what happened in iraq (sunni minority having run vastly shia majority iraq), and syria (alawi shia asad familty runing nearly 90% sunni syria). look jinnah was born in aga khani shia family but later he practised ithna ashri or main shia sects though. jinnah and the then aga khan founded Muslim league. Later Bhutto who was from an elite shia family founded PPP. Benojir and her husband are shias. look first 3 prime minister of pakistan was shias so as the head of the military. Zia-ul-haq was the first sunni strong man of pakistan. another thing Zinnah’s only child dinna zinnah married a parsic christian from india (divorced after a few years though) and converted to christianity and had been practising christianity since then. if you dont believe these things, search for your own.<br />
Shia-pakistan<br />
December 26, 2008 at 4:10 pm<br />
Pakistanis are very much misguided nation. Its female literacy rate is lower than bangladesh now. In terms of overall literacy rate bangladesh is gaining ground rapidly whereas pakistan is falling behind. and under 5-year old child death rate per 1000: according to 2005 UN statistics bangladesh had 68 deaths whereas pakistan had 105. </p>
<p>it is clear from recent events that west is going to materialise disintegration of pakistan in a few years time into: baluchistan , frontier, sind, panjab etc.. if you think it will be possible for a largely illiterate country to defend itself then you are the foolest person to be on the face of earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/nrisnon-resident-pakistanibangladeshi-one-of-a-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-25518</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who in his right mind would denigrate Tagore and his bacjground. One can only wish that there were mnay from aristocratic, or proletariat origin with Tagore's or Iqbal's brain and attitude among us and would wish and preach for betterment of our people. 

Aftab S. Alam Says: 

May 6th, 2008 
Shah Sahab,

Would the following be our dream?

Mind Without Fear 

Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high; 

Where knowledge is free; 

Where the world has not been broken up
into fragments by narrow domestic walls; 

Where words come out from the depth of truth; 

Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection; 

Where the clear stream of reason
has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit; 

Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action— 

Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake. 

RABINDRANATH TAGORE’S - GITANJALI - “Song Offerings”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who in his right mind would denigrate Tagore and his bacjground. One can only wish that there were mnay from aristocratic, or proletariat origin with Tagore&#8217;s or Iqbal&#8217;s brain and attitude among us and would wish and preach for betterment of our people. </p>
<p>Aftab S. Alam Says: </p>
<p>May 6th, 2008<br />
Shah Sahab,</p>
<p>Would the following be our dream?</p>
<p>Mind Without Fear </p>
<p>Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high; </p>
<p>Where knowledge is free; </p>
<p>Where the world has not been broken up<br />
into fragments by narrow domestic walls; </p>
<p>Where words come out from the depth of truth; </p>
<p>Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection; </p>
<p>Where the clear stream of reason<br />
has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit; </p>
<p>Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action— </p>
<p>Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake. </p>
<p>RABINDRANATH TAGORE’S - GITANJALI - “Song Offerings”</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/nrisnon-resident-pakistanibangladeshi-one-of-a-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-25505</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johann dear, I am back again to add few more words about achievements of some of our NR nationals. You almost seem to sneeze at their not so ordinary achievements. I happen to feel good about it. After all there are immigrants of all sorts of countries and backgrounds but how come our NR-nationals have achieved so much. Doesn't it prove the basic ability and natural endowments of our people? Doesn't it prove that we all are, generally, capable of better performance only if we could somehow change our circumstancs for better. I am proud of :   

Kalpana chawla,Sunitha williams,Indira Nooyi,Lakshmi Mittal , BobbyJindal etc. 
and Amitava Kumar, Amitav Ghosh, Prof. A. Sen, Prof. Akbar S. Ahmad, Prof H. Haqqani, Sarah Sulehri, Ayesha Jajal, Fred Hasan, Ramchandar, Javed Burki, Moeen Qureshi, Shaukat Aziz, Hanif Kureshi, and many I don't know or can recall at this time. I personally would want my people judged by this standard rather than Lalloos, Sharifs, Zias, Rehmans, and many many such chracters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johann dear, I am back again to add few more words about achievements of some of our NR nationals. You almost seem to sneeze at their not so ordinary achievements. I happen to feel good about it. After all there are immigrants of all sorts of countries and backgrounds but how come our NR-nationals have achieved so much. Doesn&#8217;t it prove the basic ability and natural endowments of our people? Doesn&#8217;t it prove that we all are, generally, capable of better performance only if we could somehow change our circumstancs for better. I am proud of :   </p>
<p>Kalpana chawla,Sunitha williams,Indira Nooyi,Lakshmi Mittal , BobbyJindal etc.<br />
and Amitava Kumar, Amitav Ghosh, Prof. A. Sen, Prof. Akbar S. Ahmad, Prof H. Haqqani, Sarah Sulehri, Ayesha Jajal, Fred Hasan, Ramchandar, Javed Burki, Moeen Qureshi, Shaukat Aziz, Hanif Kureshi, and many I don&#8217;t know or can recall at this time. I personally would want my people judged by this standard rather than Lalloos, Sharifs, Zias, Rehmans, and many many such chracters.</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/nrisnon-resident-pakistanibangladeshi-one-of-a-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-25497</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Johann, allow me to say a few words about your thesis. Let me disagree with you right at the beginning. MQM has been blamed and castigated for many many things but this one about MQM being Saudi inspired, financed or sponsored is a fantastic creation of your mind (or source of your inspiration lies somewhere else?). 

Now, you have almost made it sound like as if anyone who has decided to be what is known as Non-Resident-Pakistani / Indian / Bangladeshi automatically must cease to look at the motherland with love and affection or totally break all relationships with the compatriots. How can it be humanly possible? History is witness to the fact that other immigrants before from this region continued their relationship with the country of their origin. 

Yes, it is true that such people do tend to criticise their, lets continue calling, motherlands for its shortcomings; but I honestly think it is not due to some complexes but mere human envy. You know, when you are expose to better way of managing day to day affairs of public life (the public administration, the educational system, the health care, the law and order etc. etc. etc and of course the prevailing CORRUPTION at every level) one perhaps feels that why this is not possible at home, after all the others are jus as human beings as we are. Their frustration might manifest itself in some bitterness, I don't know. 

My extensive travelling and at times extended stay in the West has really been fantastic experience and I am, in all honesty, constraint to disagree with you that there is any lack of respect for these NRI / NRP / NRB in the West. Believe me, out there the basic standard of respect is not due to your economic starta (by the way generally our NRs have progressed reasonably well up the economic ladder and are recognized even for this achievement), usually you earn respect of the society by how you conduct yourself (whether or not you have been convicted in certain felonies etc) and it is my impression based on my keen observation that generally this is not a problem the NRs face out in the countries of their settlements. 

As far as calling the corrupt politicians what they call is not much different than the rest of the resident nationals do, is there? I mean Lallo Pashad or Khalida Zia, or Nawaz Sharif or whatever. stories about their corruption and their general attitude towards the populace is beyond any admiration for anyone, of course, including the "NRs".

Am I too far from you over here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Johann, allow me to say a few words about your thesis. Let me disagree with you right at the beginning. MQM has been blamed and castigated for many many things but this one about MQM being Saudi inspired, financed or sponsored is a fantastic creation of your mind (or source of your inspiration lies somewhere else?). </p>
<p>Now, you have almost made it sound like as if anyone who has decided to be what is known as Non-Resident-Pakistani / Indian / Bangladeshi automatically must cease to look at the motherland with love and affection or totally break all relationships with the compatriots. How can it be humanly possible? History is witness to the fact that other immigrants before from this region continued their relationship with the country of their origin. </p>
<p>Yes, it is true that such people do tend to criticise their, lets continue calling, motherlands for its shortcomings; but I honestly think it is not due to some complexes but mere human envy. You know, when you are expose to better way of managing day to day affairs of public life (the public administration, the educational system, the health care, the law and order etc. etc. etc and of course the prevailing CORRUPTION at every level) one perhaps feels that why this is not possible at home, after all the others are jus as human beings as we are. Their frustration might manifest itself in some bitterness, I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>My extensive travelling and at times extended stay in the West has really been fantastic experience and I am, in all honesty, constraint to disagree with you that there is any lack of respect for these NRI / NRP / NRB in the West. Believe me, out there the basic standard of respect is not due to your economic starta (by the way generally our NRs have progressed reasonably well up the economic ladder and are recognized even for this achievement), usually you earn respect of the society by how you conduct yourself (whether or not you have been convicted in certain felonies etc) and it is my impression based on my keen observation that generally this is not a problem the NRs face out in the countries of their settlements. </p>
<p>As far as calling the corrupt politicians what they call is not much different than the rest of the resident nationals do, is there? I mean Lallo Pashad or Khalida Zia, or Nawaz Sharif or whatever. stories about their corruption and their general attitude towards the populace is beyond any admiration for anyone, of course, including the &#8220;NRs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Am I too far from you over here?</p>
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		<title>By: Johann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fakir,
  You are being generous by calling them  CONFUSED. They are not. Please read the oath again. Haqqani, Your previous PM are not confused as also Hindujas,Mittals,Indira Nooyis of India. They serve their NEW COUNTRY without confusion while it is we natives who are confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fakir,<br />
  You are being generous by calling them  CONFUSED. They are not. Please read the oath again. Haqqani, Your previous PM are not confused as also Hindujas,Mittals,Indira Nooyis of India. They serve their NEW COUNTRY without confusion while it is we natives who are confused.</p>
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		<title>By: FAKIR</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/nrisnon-resident-pakistanibangladeshi-one-of-a-kind/comment-page-1/#comment-25072</link>
		<dc:creator>FAKIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very  good assesment Sir.

These  can be called  the confused million's.  But i  think their  3rd  Generation will completly integrate  with the  US  systems, and we will see  ROBIN SINGH''S  AND MAX  CHAUDRIES  etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very  good assesment Sir.</p>
<p>These  can be called  the confused million&#8217;s.  But i  think their  3rd  Generation will completly integrate  with the  US  systems, and we will see  ROBIN SINGH&#8221;S  AND MAX  CHAUDRIES  etc</p>
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