Naked aggression of Hillary Clinton on Pakistan
By A Khokar • Nov 1st, 2009 • Category: Politics • 46 CommentsAlthough Hillary Clinton has shown some strong diplomacy of US while she was here in Pakistan but where ever she had gone one finds it was her naked aggression on Pakistan. The lady has been sounding a big bugle horn of 7.5 Billions aid to Pakistan and she has not been challenged any where and no one could tell her squarely that Madam; US is doing No favour to Pakistan by giving this money. You are just paying your bill of cost of war on terror.
It is estimated that as a front state and an ally of US in the war against terror, Pakistan has suffered an enormous losses amounting to some 80 Billions. Not to include the instability of its state that Pakistan has got as a result; the destruction of weaves of its society and its infra structures; the ever growing subversive activities of terrorist and prevalent state of anarchy are much bigger scars that Pakistan will keep on wearing for decades to come.
Pakistanis are of the opinion that every country in the US war against terror (NATO and others) that their armies are participating in this war; they are adequately been compensated or paid by US toward their cost affects (including India). Here in Pakistan; although this is a matter between two allies (US- Pakistan). Pakistan is fighting as front state in the war and consequently this country has suffered a lot. A Lollypop of 7.5 billions being offered by K-L bill or now being trumpeted by Hillary on this occasion as some compensation which she prefers to call it an aid by US—- is just a peanut.
Although she has been successful to con us that our war bill claim has cleverly been converted into a aid cum alms bill. In such circumstances US must be condemned for preemptive use of a charming woman like Hillary Clinton against Pakistan that it is against human dignity for unleashing a woman on Pakistan. But US is likely to come out with the statement that US reserve the right to use a softening tool like Hillary Clinton in such a situation where all the option have failed. But under no circumstance is there ever a justification for the preemptive deployment of such softening tool that under the spell of it where audience and addressee are overwhelemed by her charm and they fell flat—- any where by any country.
What is the out come of this visit? Net results can be said as—- Zero Sum with a Peshawar bomb blast. People Market razed to ground, hundred lives perished and some 250 maimed. Our misery is that it—– goes on.
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>>>>>>>> it is against human dignity for unleashing a woman on Pakistan
maybe they havent forgotton the Zaradri-Palin Affair, US was hoping to win over the heart of …………..zardari
>>>>>preemptive use of a charming woman like Hillary Clinton
you find her charming? try megan fox
No body is seeing her courage that she is facing the charred nation all alone.
We shouldn’t forget that she is here for Americans’ interests.
The unarmed lady is defending her country’s stance by accepting openly the deadly mistakes of Bush regimes.
Our leaders even our COAS since now have never showed such kind of courage to face the real sentiments of people after starting and escalating this war on terror.
Whole nation has been left to see the dyed and polish get up of Athar abbas after eeach tragedy.
Even In GHQ attack he through out maintained his spruce impression when whole nation was in trauma.
We should recall even Indian COAS had come in front of media after ending of Mumbai incident.
So it is called power of democracy that give potency to its responsible authorities to come and face the real power of country and they are people of any country,
Armed rulers prefer to pass time in high secure areas or away from their real responsibilities and our state is live example of it.
That’s why I keep telling you guys, you really don’t have the capabilities to rule yourselves. You lost East Pakistan, now South Waziristan, NWFP etc and before the whole country disintegrates, let India find a solution for you guys.
The best thing to do is create smaller countries like EU, also called IU (Islamic Union), make Sindh, Punjab, etc smaller countries, create Jinnahpur etc. The problems can be solved by going macro!
Thanks Jai
we have noted your high profile bitter advice.
You took so much pain of using your dying mental skills for thinking for your neighboring country.
it really shows your concern and care about your near one.
We really appreciate your all free and abundant guidelines.
In the end I will remeber you that try to give some consideration on 15 nationalist movements running in democratic India.
As we have heard your valuable advice so you should concentrate on your side too.
just little tip of passing good free time towards your own problems too.
Nazia, why don’t you give the same advice to the writers here who keep finding faults in India? Only when there were anti-India articles, comments, we had to come here to remind you guys about your true self. Hurts ain’t it?
India is a vibrant democracy. We might have umpteen nationalist movements, other issues but we still remained together and are becoming stronger day by day. EVERYONE is proud to be an Indian! In fact, the whole world is amazed with India and it’s democracy, so many languages, so many cultures, so many religions but we still managed to remain together and what unifies us is NOT religion but INDIANNESS!
Pakistan lost it’s credibility the moment it encouraged extremism and shook hands with terrorists to pursue it’s vile agenda. It failed as a nation right at that time.
Take care of your mother-land? First stop the terrorists coming out of your country into India and that definitely makes it our business as we are affected by your non-competence.
What happened in Kargil? Do you disagree that it was your Army which attacked us and provoked us?
I give you an advice for friendly fires with us.
First write your all angers under any topic of your choice and then we will bring it under discussion
You look to be in habit of jabbing without purpose to others that is why you have no company in Your proud Indian side and they let you free to interfere in our matters.
Every body is responsible of personal security and personal business,When ever you find any terrorists from our side you have to right to shoot him on the spot .
Look at our patience level how we are tolerating you in Pakistani site so long .
Kindly see the topic and try to minimize your frustration by keeping you in track
You still haven’t answered my question. Do you agree that it was Pakistani Army which attacked India from behind in Kargil and claimed that they were tribals but later agreed they were Army regulars? Just answer this instead of your bhashan…
Why you didn’t dare to ask this question when you invited general Musharraf to your home town after this incident.
It was almost more than two times after kargil when he was cordially welcome in India who proudly allowed him to make photograph in front of taj mahal along with his sebeha jehan or let him to give you lecture on Pak India relationship.
You should had showered him with your such questions that was completely synchronized with his acts for India but you welcome him with fl bouquets and receptions of musical nights and now throwing useless angers under wrong topic.
Have you heard word “chechar” a leech or a lounge lizard in any where in your life.
Do you know for whom we use such kind of terminology?
just for checking your general knowledge.
Dear Nazia,
Pakistan is not facing only its arch rival India on our eastern borders who are bent upon (come what may) to see us fade away—- disintegrated but we are also facing a bigger challenge where all the oppressors of this world have also got gathered on our western border—–and are manipulating the situation. They are plying all possible aggressive plans and have even infiltrated our inner core fences to see us that we fall apart.
While we keep on discussing our national affairs here and mostly remain very critical about government and all the other forces found at the helm of affairs—–but we must keep an hawkish eye on all the rippling Rodents like we usually witness on this forum from moving in disguise from across our borders that they keep on making intrusions to frustrate us.
These Dalits from across our borders——– where they find no place of their own for breathing on their soils—– come round here to ease themselves. They are although well come here that they are human and our religion is for all the human beings. But they need to learn some manners and etiquettes before they enter here.
We know ny now numbers of people here from across our borders who come and go. But you may not find a single person that when ever they find a chance—– have not struck us with their cynicism?
We need to be on guards all the times.
I am sure Zardari and Nawaz wouldn’t face anchors in that fashion, and they wouldn’t roam like Hilary even if they are provided that much security. But then there is some difference between American leaders and Pakistani leaders.
Nazia,
Where as this Jaiho is bent upon to divert our attention from the original subject of our discussion and this stooge may not utter a single word that same character—Hillary Clinton is now in India but will keep you engaged in use less cynicism.
Any how this is for sure that India stands to loose at the hands of communist Maoist but there are more than hundred separatist organisation fighting the hate full central control of government of India and fighting hard for their independence. The cracks are showing. Some of the separatist organisations are given here.
Here is along list of about 100 Separatist and dissident groups;
Hindu Terror Groups
1. Shiv Sena – Army of Shiva
2. Bajrang Dal
3. Durga Vahini-Women militants
4. BJP terror group
5. A ragtag, government-armed Hindu militant groups have been raised in Kashmir and northern India during this decade.
Indian Occupied Kashmir
1. Hizbul Mujahideen
2. Harkat-ul-Ansar or Harkat-ul-Jehad-e-Islami
3. Lashkar-e-Toiba
4. Jaish-e-MohammadMujahideen E-Tanzeem
5. Jammu & KashmirLiberation Front
6. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
7. Al Badr
8. Dukhtaran-e-Millat
9. Al Barq
10. Al Jehad
11. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
12. Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army
13. People’s League
14. Muslim JanbazForce
15. Kashmir Jehad Force
16. Al JehadForce (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir
17. Jehad Force
18. Al Umar Mujahideen
19. Mahaz-e-Azadi
20. Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba
21. Jammu & Kashmir StudentsLiebration Front
22. Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen
23. Islamic Students League
24. Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir
25. Mutahida Jehad Council
26. Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria
27. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
28. Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters
29. Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami
30. Therik-ul-Mujahideen
31. Muslim Mujahideen
32. Al MujahidForce
33. Tehrik-e-Jehad
34. Islami Inquilabi Mahaz
ASSAM
1. Bodo Liberation Tigers (BLT)
2. Dima Halom Daogah (DHD)
3. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
4. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
5. Koch-RajbongshiLiberation Organisation (KRLO)
6. Adivasi Cobra Force(ACF)
7. Karbi People’s Front(KPF)
8. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
9. Bircha Commando Force(BCF)
10. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
11. Adivasi Security Force(ASF)
12. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
13. Gorkha Tiger Force(GTF)
14. Barak Valley YouthLiberation Front (BVYLF)
15. Muslim United LiberationTigers of Assam (MULTA)
16. Muslim United LiberationFront of Assam (MULFA)
17. Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
18. United Liberation Militia ofAssam (ULMA)
19. Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
20. Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
21. Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
22. Muslim Security Force (MSF)
23. Islamic SevakSangh (ISS)
24. Islamic United ReformationProtest of India (IURPI)
25. United Muslim LiberationFront of Assam (UMLFA)
26. Revolutionary MuslimCommandos (RMC)
27. Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
28. People’s UnitedLiberation Front (PULF)
29. Adam Sena(AS)
30. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
31. Harkat-ul-Jehad
NAGALAND
1. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Isak-Muivah)– NSCN(IM)
2. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Khaplang)– NSCN (K)
3. Naga NationalCouncil (Adino) – NNC (Adino)
4. Tripura Liberation OrganisationFront (TLOF)
5. United Bengali LiberationFront (UBLF)
6. Tripura TribalVolunteer Force (TTVF)
7. Tripura Armed TribalCommando Force (TATCF)
8. Tripura TribalDemocratic Force (TTDF)
9. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
10. Tripura LiberationForce (TLF)
11. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
12. All TripuraVolunteer Force (ATVF)
13. Tribal Commando Force (TCF)
14. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
15. All TripuraBharat Suraksha Force(ATBSF)
16. Tripura Tribal ActionCommittee Force (TTACF)
17. Socialist Democratic Frontof Tripura (SDFT)
18. All TripuraNational Force (ATNF)
19. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
20. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
21. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)
Meghalaya
1. Hynniewtrep NationalLiberation Council (HNLC)
2. Achik NationalVolunteer Council (ANVC)
3. People’s LiberationFront of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
4. Left-wing Extremists
5. People’s Guerrilla Army
We invited Musharaff because India believes in peace and in spite of your evil designs, we were going the extra mile to ease tensions. Also, he was there in the capacity of President of Pakistan and we were respecting the post he was occupying, not him. This talks about the maturity of India. So you agree that your rulers for decades have been employing dirty tactics against India.
Have you heard the term leech, an organism which thrives on sucking the blood out of others? The same term can be applied to you Pakistanis who just thrive on sucking the blood out of other countries and never be able to do anything on your own.
Dear Friends,
Yes Hillary Clinton; she was here on a mission— she struck us and struck us very hard——— with her sledge hammer like strong diplomacy.
She met all the people who were critical of US policy;—– the strong faced bunch of TV anchors (most of them amature), the parliamentarians, the elites and the university students and to day we find that she left us more vulnerable——–that we all are bleeding.
The hypocritical two faced diplomacy of ours to play————a game of hide and seek in case of war on terrorism—she left us bared exposed in all the fields and at the mercy of USA.
Across the board all the people coming across her—– admitted that yes there are terrorists on our lands; there is Al Qaeda and their head quarters are here on our soils.
Yes; Al Qaeda has been successful in inculcating her ideology and today we find score of Al Qaeda branches spread with various name and disguises all over in the country.
Yes; yesterday the war that we used to say is US war that Pakistan is fighting in vain and hated America——-is in fact our own war that we now are fighting for. Our armed forces are suffering heavy losses to let us free of this parasite that we allowed to breed on our soils.
Yes; Pakistan is the epicentre of Terrorism. And the terrorist have set their time bomb clocks——–not to destroy any one else that they never be able [1] to but own their kith and kin’s.
[1]- Julaay dian khar mastian apni maan bhain nall.
Jai Ho,
Look man we are discussing here some thing else; you better keep your brush to your self. Any how thanks for entertaining the then president of Pakistan Musharraf. He was not there for heck of it. See for your self and get on one side. Here is transcript of Musharraf Interview and brief of his visit.
General Musharraf in India
RAW of India and ISI of Pakistan; both are the culprits; Says
Ex- President General Pervez Musharraf, who was invited by ‘India today Group’ to deliver a Dinner key note address: ‘The Challenges of Change’ at the ‘India Today Conclave’ held at Taj Palace Hotel, In New Delhi on Saturday, 7 March 2009.
He travelled to India to confront the most hostile but august audience that he was honoured to address and won a day for Pakistan in a Q/A session.
Video Link:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_magazine&opt=section§ionid=86&sec=42&videoid=31731&start_bottom=10&ptype=video
Transcript of Q&A with Pervez Musharraf
Arun Poorie: You are here as a messenger of peace. What did you do about it in the nine years when you were in power?
Musharraf: Let’s stop the blame game. We need to look at the reality, forget the past and look ahead. I don’t know what I did wrong, but I can tell you I tried my best for peace between India and Pakistan. I was never negative when the opportunity for peace came to me.
Arun Poorie: What plans do you have about the future?
Musharraf: To me, the core issue is confidence building by greater people to people affinity. Once the confidence is there, we should move towards resolving the core issues, and stop meddling with the internal affairs of each other’s country.
Arun Poorie: What do you have to say about what happened on 26/11 in Mumbai?
Musharraf: Let’s stop the war hysteria. Just a day into the investigations, the Pakistani army and the ISI was blamed for it. I am for a considered and matured response to these issues. As far as the investigations is concerned, Pakistani government should fully cooperate and the guilty should be punished.
Arun Poorie: Are there any terrorist camps in Pakistan?
Musharraf: See we have done damage to each other. I am aware of what the Indian Embassy is doing in Jalalabad and Kandahar. A terrorist from Kabul has been received by Indian intelligence agencies in India and looked after. I have documents to show this. Let us stop the blame game. India is a big country. You try to do damage to us, we will do damage to you. We should address the trust deficit between the two countries. The ISI does the same thing as the RAW does. There is no distinction.
Ravi Shankar Prasad: In the face of the present situation, do you see Taliban taking over Pakistan?
Musharraf: Areas in North West Frontier (Province) where the problem is, account for less then one per cent of the population. There is no danger of Taliban taking over Pakistan politically.
Arun Poorie: What specific confidence building measures do you have for the future?
Musharraf: We need to look at strategic issues. We will have to address water issue which would develop into a new conflict between the nations. We have to stick to the Indus Valley treaty.
Soli Sorabjee: Will you handover Dawood Ibrahim to us as a confidence building measure?
Musharraf: This is a small issue. I do not know if he is there. I too have a long list of people that india needs to give us. The role of Indian Embassy in Afghanistan in Jalalabad and Kandhar is not good either.
Individuals are a small issue. We need to look at strategic issue. I do not think handing over Dawood will change anything. (When asked to try) I know it will not help in easing tensions between the two nations, if that happens then you will have to handover Dawood back to Pakistan (laughs).
Rahul Kanwal: A conversation of Gen Kayani, the army chief, who succeeded you has been intercepted where he said Taliban is a ’strategic asset’?
Musharraf: This is a lie. He cannot say that. I challenge them to show me the proof. It is a lie.
Amar Singh: When our (then) PM Vajpayee travelled to Lahore by bus to Lahore for friendship, Kargil happened. Now you say you are for peace?
Musharraf: I would not like to comment on this issue. I have dealt with this matter in my book.
Shekhar Gupta: Compare your years in power with that of Zia ul Haq.
Musharraf: The comparison cannot be done as the situation and ground realities were very different in both times. You must understand that Pakistan is not the perpetuator of terror but a victim of terror in the last 30 years.
Question: How is it to live in Pakistan and not be in charge?
Musharraf: It’s good. I am relaxed. The most difficult job was to take decisions in highly complex situations. Now I read about them in the papers.
General VP Malik: What are the chances the army taking over Pakistan again? How can India help Pakistan in its problems?
Musharraf: It is the internal matter of Pakistan. The political leadership can deal with the situation. I would not like to comment on that. India can help Pakistan by not carrying out maligning Pakistani army and ISI in the world.
Source: India today
Link: http://www.adab-arz.co.uk/
Jai Ho! as always is an exploding volcano.Whenever he opens his mouth hatred and bias bursts out.I think he doesnt have any thing else to do except to criticise Pakistan.He shows the hatred Indians have for Pakistan and look at us we are still bearing him.This shows our level of patience,i wonder what would have become of any Pakistani commenting against India on any of the Indian blogs?where people like Jai Ho exists.Now i feel pity for muslims living in India.
@ Jai ho,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The untouchables were not allowed to touch people from the four Varnas. They were not allowed to enter houses of the higher Varnas. They were not allowed to enter the temples. They were not allowed to use the same wells used by the Varnas. In public occasions they were compelled to sit at a distance from the four Varnas. In regions where the attitude towards the untouchables were more severe, not only touching them was seen polluting, but also even a contact with their shadow was seen as polluting……If, because of any reason, there was a contact between an untouchable and a member of the Varnas, the Varna member became defiled and had to immerse or wash himself with water to be purified. In strict societies, especially among the ‘Twice Born’ (the three top Varnas) the touched ‘Twice Born’ also had to pass through some religious ceremonies to purify himself from the pollution. If the untouchable entered a house and touched things of a Varna member, the Varna members used to wash or clean the places where the untouchable touched and stepped.
I know Jai Ho you belong to the above and you can not stand that you are welcome to join our community, we will not ask you to SHOWER
Mush says
I don’t know what I did wrong, but I can tell you I tried my best for peace between India and Pakistan. I was never negative when the opportunity for peace came to me.
yes he was right as he always start thinking after doing huge blunders and its practical examples are kargil, and trying to fire CJP
I think we all know what we say to such character who always thinks after his action .
He again says 26/11 incident
Let’s stop the war hysteria. Just a day into the investigations, the Pakistani army and the ISI was blamed for it. I am for a considered and matured response to these issues. As far as the investigations is concerned,
Who is always behind war hysteria Pakistan army under the control of general like him or some one else?
He wanted mature response which he forgot that Pakistani Govt had already accepted the ownership of all attackers and its paper work investigation made by Rehman malik has already been issued.
His reply on kargil issue is actaully eyewash to his crimes against his state too as PM of that time had denied its execution like that so his weakness is obvious in such comments.
I would not like to comment on this issue. I have dealt with this matter in my book.
He cant compare the two tenures of zia and him but we or any political science student can easily do it and this is the biggest difference between the mental approach of any army officer and ordinary civilian.
He is right that if army take over Pakistan , it is her internal matter and has no concern on it as he is now our external matter who cant even come and see the mess created by his policies.
JAI
you are not educated enough to know the meaning of leech exactly
I tell you that leech as a noun uses for a person who is supported or seeks support from another without making an adequate return.
Any how you tried your best and should be appreciated.