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		<title>By: Arif</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/messieurs-president-pm-coas-put-nation-before-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-199185</link>
		<dc:creator>Arif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as  always a brilliant post from Dr. Shireen. Keep going!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as  always a brilliant post from Dr. Shireen. Keep going!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Incredible Indian-- ADDITIONAL READINGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incredible Indian-- ADDITIONAL READINGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Comment 7 i said:

"""""""""""'dialogue with taliban!!!!! no amount of dialogue can remove their HATEFUL ideology. Their only aim is establishing TALIBAN rule over the entire pakistan. Dialogue will only give them TIME TO REGROUP"""""""""""""'


""Moral dilemma of our times"" written By Irfan Husain in the DAWN says the EXACT SAME THING.

kindly read this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Comment 7 i said:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8216;dialogue with taliban!!!!! no amount of dialogue can remove their HATEFUL ideology. Their only aim is establishing TALIBAN rule over the entire pakistan. Dialogue will only give them TIME TO REGROUP&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Moral dilemma of our times&#8221;" written By Irfan Husain in the DAWN says the EXACT SAME THING.</p>
<p>kindly read this article.</p>
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		<title>By: AOM</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/messieurs-president-pm-coas-put-nation-before-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-195671</link>
		<dc:creator>AOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please answer my question Mr Alam: Please name a single person in elected government’s cabinet who is competent in his field (from Minister of Tourism to the PM, including defense minister, foreign, interior advisor, finance, )? please come up with facts and figures?

IS THIS U FARID MASOOD?

SHAME ON YOU! 

HOW QUICKLY YOU FORGOT EVERYTHING YOU USED TO WRITE (JUST FEW MONTHS BACK)  IN FAVOUR OF THES CULPRITS AND AGAINST PERVEZ MUSHARRAF BUT NOW YOU ARE AMONG THOSE WHO HAS REALISED THEIR MISTAKES.

Try to be little courageos in saying that, DICTATOR WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THESE CROOKS (NAWAZ SHARIF AND ZARDARI) WHO HAD ALREADY LOST 11 PRECIUOS  YEARS (1988-199)  OF THE NATION AND AGAIN READY TO DESTROY ANOTHER 11 YEARS BY THIER SELFISH ATTITUDE IN POLITICS AND SPENDING THEIR ENERGIES/COUNTRY'S RESOURCES IN DOWNGRADING EACH OTHER.

I HOPE YOU WILL SOON START WRITING ABOUT THE GOLDEN REA OF PERVEZ MUSHARRAF AND SHAUKAT AZIZ AND THEIR SOCIO-ECONOMIC ACHIEVEMENTS

THEY ARE SIMPLY INSINCERE, INCOMPETENT AND HOPELESS PEOPLE TO RULE THE COUNTRY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please answer my question Mr Alam: Please name a single person in elected government’s cabinet who is competent in his field (from Minister of Tourism to the PM, including defense minister, foreign, interior advisor, finance, )? please come up with facts and figures?</p>
<p>IS THIS U FARID MASOOD?</p>
<p>SHAME ON YOU! </p>
<p>HOW QUICKLY YOU FORGOT EVERYTHING YOU USED TO WRITE (JUST FEW MONTHS BACK)  IN FAVOUR OF THES CULPRITS AND AGAINST PERVEZ MUSHARRAF BUT NOW YOU ARE AMONG THOSE WHO HAS REALISED THEIR MISTAKES.</p>
<p>Try to be little courageos in saying that, DICTATOR WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THESE CROOKS (NAWAZ SHARIF AND ZARDARI) WHO HAD ALREADY LOST 11 PRECIUOS  YEARS (1988-199)  OF THE NATION AND AGAIN READY TO DESTROY ANOTHER 11 YEARS BY THIER SELFISH ATTITUDE IN POLITICS AND SPENDING THEIR ENERGIES/COUNTRY&#8217;S RESOURCES IN DOWNGRADING EACH OTHER.</p>
<p>I HOPE YOU WILL SOON START WRITING ABOUT THE GOLDEN REA OF PERVEZ MUSHARRAF AND SHAUKAT AZIZ AND THEIR SOCIO-ECONOMIC ACHIEVEMENTS</p>
<p>THEY ARE SIMPLY INSINCERE, INCOMPETENT AND HOPELESS PEOPLE TO RULE THE COUNTRY.</p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A.S.A

When an idea is presented before public, it is less important to lash out on the writer but much important to object the idea / concept. 

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.S.A</p>
<p>When an idea is presented before public, it is less important to lash out on the writer but much important to object the idea / concept. </p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aftab S. Alam

Not being on the side of Doctor Sahiba that she lost her job due to incompetence, please answer my question Mr Alam: Please name a single person in elected government's cabinet who is competent in his field (from Minister of Tourism to the PM, including defense minister, foreign, interior advisor, finance, )? please come up with facts and figures?

waiting for your honest reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aftab S. Alam</p>
<p>Not being on the side of Doctor Sahiba that she lost her job due to incompetence, please answer my question Mr Alam: Please name a single person in elected government&#8217;s cabinet who is competent in his field (from Minister of Tourism to the PM, including defense minister, foreign, interior advisor, finance, )? please come up with facts and figures?</p>
<p>waiting for your honest reply.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friends.

Dr Shireen M Mazari has given a real insight of the issues that Pakistani people and Pakistan Government is facing at the moment. This is a painstaking effort of her to furnish us a true picture. I am thankful to her for all this.

There is no doubt that a phoney war against terrorism that rightly or wrongly Pakistan once befriended United States to assist her in it has engulfed Pakistan in it completely and our house is set on fire. [1]

May it be United States and her western allies, India or even Russia; every one is all out to exploit the present precarious situation that Pakistan is in.

But this area is about to prove another Vietnam for United States and United States may not even find that last helicopter which she found in Vietnam to escape. But this only depends that the rapacious greed for money of our brethren along Pak- Afghan border does not start bubbling up and United States offers them a better bid to purchase their loyalties and they scum…..

Mohabtoun main sadda say laga hey ek Dharka sa
Na  janay  koun  kahaan  koi  rasta  badal  jaey


At the same times all members are requested to please hold their horses and refrain from indulging in personality bashings. Only positive contributions please...!


[1] Tum tou sahib bahut mahir they aisi Nao chalanay main?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends.</p>
<p>Dr Shireen M Mazari has given a real insight of the issues that Pakistani people and Pakistan Government is facing at the moment. This is a painstaking effort of her to furnish us a true picture. I am thankful to her for all this.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that a phoney war against terrorism that rightly or wrongly Pakistan once befriended United States to assist her in it has engulfed Pakistan in it completely and our house is set on fire. [1]</p>
<p>May it be United States and her western allies, India or even Russia; every one is all out to exploit the present precarious situation that Pakistan is in.</p>
<p>But this area is about to prove another Vietnam for United States and United States may not even find that last helicopter which she found in Vietnam to escape. But this only depends that the rapacious greed for money of our brethren along Pak- Afghan border does not start bubbling up and United States offers them a better bid to purchase their loyalties and they scum…..</p>
<p>Mohabtoun main sadda say laga hey ek Dharka sa<br />
Na  janay  koun  kahaan  koi  rasta  badal  jaey</p>
<p>At the same times all members are requested to please hold their horses and refrain from indulging in personality bashings. Only positive contributions please&#8230;!</p>
<p>[1] Tum tou sahib bahut mahir they aisi Nao chalanay main?</p>
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		<title>By: Incredible Indian-AFTAB S.ALAM'S COMMENT 1 IS UNDERSTANDABLE.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incredible Indian-AFTAB S.ALAM'S COMMENT 1 IS UNDERSTANDABLE.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i first came to TPS late last year........i was immediately IMPRESSED by two people.

1&#62; Aftab S. Alam
2&#62; Saleem Khan

These two HONOURABLE individuals are not only LIBERALS but also they are HONEST AND TRUE PATRIOTS. 

Curiously, Saleem Khan no longer comes in TPS.......why?? has he stopped net surfing ??? i dont think so. 

Simply because, TPS has been hijacked by HAWKS.......

Mindless posts, grand conspiracy theories, huge anti-india articles has become the norm.

Intelligent posts are few and far between.

Also no constructive discussion.

Coming back to the above post:

AFTAB S.ALAM'S COMMENT 1 IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

look what Author says::

"""""""""""'The military needs to be withdrawn from Swat and FATA, but there cannot be a void so a political framework is required alongside the use of paramilitary forces under civilian command"""""""""

That will be the WORST MISTAKE pakistan can ever do........it will automatically allow TALIBAN TO REGROUP and come back EVEN MORE STRONGLY...........!!!!!

it is laughable to suggest """use of paramilitary forces under civilian command""" when army CANNOT DO THE JOB.

It will also act as an invitation for an ALL OUT AMERICAN INVASION.

Author says::

""""""""'What a cruel joke on the nation for the political leadership to declare that they will not dialogue with those carrying arms! It is precisely with these people that the dialogue is needed.""""""""'

dialogue with taliban!!!!! no amount of dialogue can remove their HATEFUL ideology. Their only aim is establishing TALIBAN rule over the entire pakistan. Dialogue will only give them TIME TO REGROUP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i first came to TPS late last year&#8230;&#8230;..i was immediately IMPRESSED by two people.</p>
<p>1&gt; Aftab S. Alam<br />
2&gt; Saleem Khan</p>
<p>These two HONOURABLE individuals are not only LIBERALS but also they are HONEST AND TRUE PATRIOTS. </p>
<p>Curiously, Saleem Khan no longer comes in TPS&#8230;&#8230;.why?? has he stopped net surfing ??? i dont think so. </p>
<p>Simply because, TPS has been hijacked by HAWKS&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mindless posts, grand conspiracy theories, huge anti-india articles has become the norm.</p>
<p>Intelligent posts are few and far between.</p>
<p>Also no constructive discussion.</p>
<p>Coming back to the above post:</p>
<p>AFTAB S.ALAM&#8217;S COMMENT 1 IS UNDERSTANDABLE.</p>
<p>look what Author says::</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8216;The military needs to be withdrawn from Swat and FATA, but there cannot be a void so a political framework is required alongside the use of paramilitary forces under civilian command&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>That will be the WORST MISTAKE pakistan can ever do&#8230;&#8230;..it will automatically allow TALIBAN TO REGROUP and come back EVEN MORE STRONGLY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..!!!!!</p>
<p>it is laughable to suggest &#8220;&#8221;"use of paramilitary forces under civilian command&#8221;"&#8221; when army CANNOT DO THE JOB.</p>
<p>It will also act as an invitation for an ALL OUT AMERICAN INVASION.</p>
<p>Author says::</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;&#8216;What a cruel joke on the nation for the political leadership to declare that they will not dialogue with those carrying arms! It is precisely with these people that the dialogue is needed.&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8216;</p>
<p>dialogue with taliban!!!!! no amount of dialogue can remove their HATEFUL ideology. Their only aim is establishing TALIBAN rule over the entire pakistan. Dialogue will only give them TIME TO REGROUP</p>
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		<title>By: Maham Javed- THE LAST COMMENT!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maham Javed- THE LAST COMMENT!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think, its a matter of respect. And you, Aftab seemed to be capable of more than hurling such vicious words at a woman and an elderly woman at that!

She has neither manipulated nor abused this forcum! She just voiced her thoughts! Look closely, and you will see the REAL PEOPLE who manipulate this forum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think, its a matter of respect. And you, Aftab seemed to be capable of more than hurling such vicious words at a woman and an elderly woman at that!</p>
<p>She has neither manipulated nor abused this forcum! She just voiced her thoughts! Look closely, and you will see the REAL PEOPLE who manipulate this forum!</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/messieurs-president-pm-coas-put-nation-before-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-192994</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look this woman lost her job, this government 'fired' her for her incompetence (I like to believe!). Now, she used to work as Direcor General Institute of Strategic Studies Govt. of Pakistan (during the last government), my question what is the difference between our defense policy now and then when she was serving?

Seeking a job is right of all the jobless people and this woman has just as much a right, but why to manipulate and abuse this Forum? why must she use this 'public space' for her personal advertising or is it her way of 'blackmailing' the powers that be? 

Sorry, if I shocked you Maham. Shock was intended, though, to provoke this awareness here, we must not let such self-serving 'intellectuals' with fancy 'titles' defraud us. 

As for this other 'fancy titled' primitive ape...... let's not try to rescue him from the 'gutter' that he is operating from; let's just let him rot where he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look this woman lost her job, this government &#8216;fired&#8217; her for her incompetence (I like to believe!). Now, she used to work as Direcor General Institute of Strategic Studies Govt. of Pakistan (during the last government), my question what is the difference between our defense policy now and then when she was serving?</p>
<p>Seeking a job is right of all the jobless people and this woman has just as much a right, but why to manipulate and abuse this Forum? why must she use this &#8216;public space&#8217; for her personal advertising or is it her way of &#8216;blackmailing&#8217; the powers that be? </p>
<p>Sorry, if I shocked you Maham. Shock was intended, though, to provoke this awareness here, we must not let such self-serving &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; with fancy &#8216;titles&#8217; defraud us. </p>
<p>As for this other &#8216;fancy titled&#8217; primitive ape&#8230;&#8230; let&#8217;s not try to rescue him from the &#8216;gutter&#8217; that he is operating from; let&#8217;s just let him rot where he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Maham Javed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maham Javed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this is the 'CIVILIZED LOT' I keep hearing about? 

Is there anything wrong with freedom of speech? Its a free country afterall! Besides, Dr. Pervez I am loathe to say this but you really crossed your boundaries over here! Just because you don't agree with the woman doesn't mean you have the right to call her ' A Gandhi Prostitute.'

I also wonder what changed during my absence at TPS. Why is it suddenly cramming with 'anti-stuff'? Indians are swamming the place fighting against the Pakistanis and Pakistanis are doing the same! Where has the decorum, the prestige of this blog gone? 

As for you Aftab, I am shocked. True, you don't agree with the writer but why the hell would you hurl sarcastic remarks and insults at her? I can't believe you of all people said this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this is the &#8216;CIVILIZED LOT&#8217; I keep hearing about? </p>
<p>Is there anything wrong with freedom of speech? Its a free country afterall! Besides, Dr. Pervez I am loathe to say this but you really crossed your boundaries over here! Just because you don&#8217;t agree with the woman doesn&#8217;t mean you have the right to call her &#8216; A Gandhi Prostitute.&#8217;</p>
<p>I also wonder what changed during my absence at TPS. Why is it suddenly cramming with &#8216;anti-stuff&#8217;? Indians are swamming the place fighting against the Pakistanis and Pakistanis are doing the same! Where has the decorum, the prestige of this blog gone? </p>
<p>As for you Aftab, I am shocked. True, you don&#8217;t agree with the writer but why the hell would you hurl sarcastic remarks and insults at her? I can&#8217;t believe you of all people said this!</p>
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