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Let’s stand clear on Paki Terrorists Issue

By A Khokar • Dec 10th, 2009 • Category: Politics • 39 Comments

The war on terror declared by USA after the incident of 9/11 was ultimately brought to our western borders under the pretext that US lead NATO forces had come here fighting all the way chasing the terrorists of Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda a stateless organisation was declared by US as their enemy. Allegedly this organisation was using the god forsaken territory of FATA in Pakistan as their sanctuaries especially the part of land called South Waziristan.

Pakistan has been unable to deny this fact that since long these sanctuaries as such were certainly made available in the past to the freedom fighters-Taliban of Afghanistan against foreign occupation. Ironically Taliban offered their full shelter and hospitality to the Al Qaeda elements and Al Qaeda made its entry in FATA area.

This was little known then that the pretext of ‘war on terror’ and to fight and chasing of Al Qaeda and their hosts Taliban was in fact with the aim to target the nuclear arsenal of Pakistan and to debar the only Muslim Country in the world possessing nuclear. Also the rhetoric later propogated by declaring that these nuclear arsenals were unsafe, vulnerable and  up for grab by the terrorists of Al Qaeda. The international community was also lead to believe that Al Qaeda was poised to take over these nuclear arsenals any time and it may endanger the security of the whole world.

For the fulfilment of given pretext; it was but essential that certain subversive forces be raised with in Pakistan that they may destabilise this country by engaging Military and security governmental installations and also carry out other target killings. Sadly so American CIA with help of Indian RAW was able to hire some of the traitors of this nation from the Hindu Kush ranges that they are the known abettors and love to do the mercenary jobs for money.

History tell us that all the invaders coming down from these ranges,   into the plans of India,  invariably took them as their accomplice and  local kingdoms en route to India were made to fall. History has once again  repeated itself.  United States  is the present day invader and its armoured forces with their sabre rattling are marching in, in this area.  United States has successfully raised a accomplice group named as Tehrik e Taliban (TTP). They are not the Afghani Taliban but have borrowed their name. They are in fact the traitors and can be named as; the ‘Paki Traitors’ or ‘Paki Terrorists’.

‘Paki’ term may be very disgusting but we may not be hesitant to call spade a spade; however disgusting it may be. TTP and their cohorts are not Taliban they are our enemies. TTP are indigenious—Paki Terrorists.

Afghani Taliban has an age old struggle of their freedom; where as our Paki Traitors and Terrorist are working for their paltry gains and playing in the hands of enemies of Pakistan. They have used the name of Taliban to have an instant fame. Let’s also not play in the hands of our enemy. We must  know our enemy well; stand clear and give them and their abettors the proper name?

TTP has done enough damage to Pakistan. They are working as the enablers and executioners of on going subversive actions being carried out on the behest of  CIA in Pakistan.

Dear friends. Our borders are the security line of our society. These borders have been challenged by our enemies. Borders may these be physical or the ideological; their defences are very much sacred by the nation but these borders only remain intact till a land is able to produce her sons and daughters—– who are willing to shed their blood that their sprinkling of blood and only blood on these lines make these lines afresh and live.

This must be our prime aim that we are to fight these Paki traitors and terrorist at all costs and make it sure that we are holding our resolve —– fast. Let us be bold enough and stand behind our Gallant Armed forces. Our Forces are the saviour and our only hope that with their sacrifices; they are making it possible that we may live our tomorrows….!

 Pakistan is sacred for us. Let’s stay united against all the odds—— to save guard the sovereignty of our country.

Pakistan Pa-indabad


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  1. What is the truth here!

    You are living in a lala-land of conspiracies!

    Good Luck to you.
    PS: Look under your bed, maybe CIA has some listening device there.

  2. Nasir,
    Reportedly there are various CIA bases in Pakistan and all are fully up and running. To name a few;
    • Shabaz airbase Jacobabad, Baluchistan
    • Bandari drones flying air base south of Kharan, Baluchistan,
    • Kot kalam base,
    • Hyatabad- Peshawar
    • Sehala monitoring base near Sehala police academy
    • The biggest of all; US Training camp/ base at Terbella

    [ Dunia ko hey Khabar; Magaer tum ko nahein….
    Kaisey meray Ehbaab hou; Tum koun Ho?]

    There may be an argument that this government is in line with US and under the circumstance is unable to take any action against these bases or may dare object to the activities of US being a super power.
    Then:
    All the more the TTP and their cohorts should be seen directing all their covert operations and raids against these bases that they consider US as their enemy.

    Who is conducting all the subversive activities in Pakistan and why?

    And if these bases are not CIA run bases then; what are Americans and marines doing there? On Picnic; I assume?

    (In need be six figure grid references of Google earth satellite of all the bases can be provided)

    Regards

  3. Who are we to call others hypocrit? What the writer is saying is that Pakistani Taliban are bad and Afghan Taliban are good. We pakistanis do not like Taliban in our country, but we want them to rule Afganistan and treat afghanis like the way they do. Afghan people have the right to decide how they choose to live, if we don’t like something for ourselves then we should also reject it for other people.

  4. Moz,
    Freedom is the basic right of the people on this palnet and Afghanis have got their full right to it. Taliban in Afghanistan is one such movement that they are fighting foreign occupation forces for the freedom of their own country.

    But point of our contention under the subject topic of the article may that the a group of people from Pakistan; belonging to Hindu Kush ranges; (Khyber and Waziristan area) have wilfully abetted the enemies of Pakistan—- presumably CIA of US. They are fully supported and equipped and trained by this enemy and have successfully raised an organisation.

    But the beauty of this organisation is that where as it has been assigned the subversive tasks——- to carry out any such activities which result in bringing chaos and anarchy in pakistan and to destabilize it. It also aims at undermining the Taliban movement in Afghanistan and bring a bad name to them.

    To enjoy the fame status of Afghani Taliban; these imitators have adopted a shibboleth of Taliban as a catch word and to achieve a instant fame cum lofty status among people. This is the misleading factor since floated by TTP in the public that we all are the targets for it. Afghani Taliban do not own this Tehrik called TTP.

    So lets us stand clear that Afghanis are the real Taliban and in Pakistan the organisation called as TTP is the abettor of our enemy and the traitors. So I suggested that; they be called as the Paki Traitors and Terrorist———–and be eliminated at all cost.

    Regards

  5. Khokar
    More you would indulge yourself in war like unstable conditions more group would join this batch that are now calling themselves as TTP.
    This strategy was not even applied on British rule here as these people cant come out of their fixed terrain.These all are paid killers, paid criminal who are run by your civilized class sitting in govt or Ghq.
    Pakistan promoted Taliban cultures to eradicate communism from the region now they are reversing vice versa effects.So who is playing the game of touts.
    One land with multiple and extreme concepts of faiths cant survive in peace and harmony as you distribute arms to them for seeing forced effectiveness of your ideas.
    You see its side effects.now whether it is folks of communism there or bunch of Taliban all are now looking for huge sum of money for carry on this war games.
    Musharraf and US team had given enormous money to religious clerics and ruling power which we call MMA and blood shed is going on.
    Zardari regime is showing all kind of cooperation with these national party jiyala with all perks and dead bodies are fallen like stray dogs in all the major areas of Pakistan.
    Resultant is same in both cases.
    Destabilization of a state and denial of its sovereignty on any national level in the world.
    US all actions including expansion of its military network and its interference in our political matters is further enhancing the process of destabilization.Now they are moving towards Baluchistan.
    That is why same acts of grants being issued to bolochis as we had seen in swat.
    Next step would be more disastrous as per our last experience as now actions of non actors or real actors might start to escalate same situation of war in urban areas of Baluchistan.
    I am again repeating forced eradication is not soultion of our problems.We are loosing it form both ends of conflicts.

  6. Hi Khokar,
    The names of American bases in Pakistan as given by you was in control of Americans long back NOT by present elected Government but by various MILITARY REGIMES including General Musharaff with support from GHQ of his time.do NOT blame the elected civilian government for all your ills.

  7. Dear Johann,

    Pakistan is in a state of a continious war since the time that this country took the responsibility to act as first line state in the Global war against terror. Being an ally in the war and being a country lying adjacent and close to the battle field in Afghanistan— has to offer its logistical services and other assistances required for the war theatre.

    Even other wise Afghanistan is a land locked country and uses the ports and logistic routes for transportation of its goods through Pakistan.

    But the point under discussion is the present day state of affairs and the subversive activities being carried out by TTP that it is learnt that the bases which Pakistan offered to its allies are being misused by CIA. CIA has since infiltrated certain society lines and has raised a group like TTP; and is spending millions to destablize this nation.

    There is a turncoat scenario that US which previously asked Pakistan’s assistance in war; now wants to subjugate this country through subversive actions and depletion of its resources. India another neighbour in the east is also seen joining hand with US to see Pakistan going down.

  8. Nazia,

    Read in between the lines and you will find that with the new surge of troops in Afghanistan; President Obama is dreaming a dream of ‘Victory scenario which he see in making’— for US in this area.
    It can be well visualized that Baluchistan seems to be the next battle ground where this victory that US is so desperately gasping for—- will be met.

    On the arrival of US fresh troops in Afghanistan, other than about 10000 that they will be deployed in Helmed which has become a secured strong hold of US forces like the famous Green Zone in Baghdad-Iraq; about 5000 of them will be sent to the adjacent province of Kandahar and are to be deployed along Pakistan border which means that Pakistan will feel all the heats of this new war escalation on this front.

    This has already been declared that Al Qaeda has since shifted from Afghanistan or its sanctuaries in Waziristan and allegedly they are now operating from Baluchistan with its rear Head quarters in Karachi.

    The projected peace deal with Afghani Taliban in the spring time and granting them the due share of government is likely to mark a turning point of Al Qaeda Issue in Afghanistan thatTaliban are likely to denounce Al qaeda.

    The large scale anarchy and devastation being carried out in Pakistan through subversive activities by TTP on the behest of CIA is an effort to soften up the grounds for the US led NATO forces to escalate war for which Baluchistan is all—- in ready position. The situation is already made tense and life is said to be in peril at the hands of Baluchi separatists.

    This is a real dream of Obama which is about to come to pass that a black man so earnestly envisages bringing about a Victory for US for which he has already been awarded—-Peace Nobel Prize—- in advance.
    (this investure ceremony is taking place some times today)

  9. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda are trying to attempt to hide their barbaric acts from the public and issuing statements to that effect saying that this is a war against non Muslims. Killing MUSLIMS?? Don’t make sense to me!!

  10. Paki is not the rite word to use I think. It has to be PAKISTANI and yes we have to fight against extremism at any cost. They have ruined the economy of our country and we need our peace back so whatever it takes to defeat the militants Lets all unite as ONE.

  11. A wartime president being honored for peace, Barack Obama said some times ago that criticism of his Nobel prize as premature might recede if he advances goals such as a nuclear-free world and tackling climate change says dail Washington post.

    Obama ‘Advances goal as nuclear free world— what?

    Is US going to destroy all its nuclear weapons and also ask Russia, UK , France and Israel or for that matter India to abandon their nuclear programme.

    Well yes; Iran may not be allowed to progress in her research and Pakistan is being brought down to a stage to take charge of its nuclear assets by the international community by force—-being vulnerable and it is out for grab by the terrorist of Al Qaeda and being a potential security risk for the world.

  12. Quaid-e-Azam & Illama Iqbal, although they were the hero for Muslim Ideology in the war against the Western Values & Capital System sore themselves as not a failure but remained limited because they were trying to tell the Muslim people of South Asia before what was likely to happen. Quaid & Illama also warned to this nation in advance against Jews & Christianity full of Conspiracy Dangerous Games against Muslims. As right now Dr.Shahid Masood, Imran Khan, Rtd. Gen. Hameed Gul, Hamid Mir, Kamran Khan, Zaid Hamid, Mushtaq Minhas, Javaid Ch. Munawar Hussain-JI, Haroon Rasheed, Irfan Siddiqi, some of PML (N) members not all & many others have been telling us in constant manner that the Christians & Jews sided with the Hindus & they have the same aims & goals against the Muslims as Quaid-e-Azam & Illama Iqbal told us well in advance moreover even before them the same has been clearly mentioned & like crystal had been incorporated in the Holy Quran & Hadees. Yes this is time to wake up – Muslim Ummah.

    This is my prediction in near future if Americans do not stop right here — Pakistani Army, ISI & Taliban/Alqaida will start a full fledged war with India & Iran plus China will play the same role which is assumed of their own in form of America & Israel & this will be fighting with American & rest of the West Admin’n not with Christians all in-General. Get it right. For this Stupid American Nation go ahead & elect another War President. If this is a mind of Obama Administration that they are like a LION & ISRAEL is like a clever fox — No not at all I would rather say you Obama are like a severe wounded & mad Tiger & Israel/Fox has been trapped into the net namely Hezbollah cum Hammass. YOU both plus India fighting for? You see & read what’s going on overseas & its heart wrenching. I sure hope no one comes here & treats your kids the way you have treated the children of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kashmir & at Iraq. If Obama Administration is not ready to leave to Underestimate to Pakistani Nation along with Muslim Ummah who is not likewise Japanese or Germans than Almighty Allah help You all Americans — I guarantee be ready to move to Mexico or Canada Pakistanis are waking & standing up along with other Muslims Brothers!

    *FCA = Foreign Currency A/c.
    Maee-ut / Maee-Toun = Coffin Box(s)
    American $ Wasool- Kis Nay Kahan Bhay-Jay-
    Taliban-o-Army Eik Dosray Ko Mout – Bhay-Jay-
    Inn Maee-Toun Pur Kuan Kis Pur Lanat- Bhay-Jay-
    President Nay Eik Taraf Maee-ut -Pur Phool Bhay-Jay-
    Dosree Taraf *FCA Mein Forun Say Peshtar $ Bhay-Jay-
    http://www.ummatpublication.com/2009/11/14/pic-09.html

  13. Admin: This is my humble request to you that kindly do not delete the visual part of my poetry/tok bundee whatever you may call it, as this is easy to understand right after pictorial site to understand the same.

  14. Khokar
    In your all observation on US future strategy for south Asia you have omitted the role of Pakistan’s military and political leadership in the whole story.We are dying and giving up like impotent creatures in the line of US all black and white polices without seeing its practicality in our area.People having single sense can judge that surge would be highly felt in our disturbed side.More Pak army would penetrate in tribal areas , more disaster we would see in our civilian areas.We have deviated from our path and destroying our culture with the help of our army and arms.
    You know well that since 1971 we have blindly invested on missiles technology, nuclear arms, latest submarines,modern weapons that can destroy enemies while sitting thousand miles away from them, modern air defense system but see for last 7 years we are fighting on the basis of old conventional techniques of war fares.
    This war inventory just deprived our majority of area/population as unattended, unemployed, and worthless life patterns which ultimately contributed in extremism factors in the region.
    No improvement in the field of local intelligence network is through out in this period of turmoil as all attackers are mostly locals and use indigenous material .
    This intelligence network if set on modern and updated standards and restricted to capable officers, then I am sure our present weak situation would have been different but we spent billions and billions on filling our arms war houses and linked people filled their pockets with millions of dollars.
    We thought that by investing on modern equipment of war or by investing to our illegitimate soldiers so that we could have harass our enemies but all went wrong.
    These enemies are now knocking at our doors and being converted into human explosives whom are not stopped by our F16, sub marines ,latest air defense and modern home built tanks.
    Your all defense policy is made in US and our uniform goofs follow it without saying anything against it as all are incapable to foresee our real problems and they just see their personal family benefits during deals and cover this criminal attitude by creating the taboo of Indian enmity in the region.
    So we are badly in need of complete overhauling of our corrupt and incapable military management.With this minds et or you can say relics of Musharraf we cant get rid of this disease of extremism.

  15. Dear A Khokar,
    I think once you said you are an ex Army man. then you must be able to tell the TRUTH and stare at its enemies. Not behind the pallu of lies.
    Today Syed Munnawar Hussein the EMIR OF JI has squarely blamed GHQ for spate of terrorist attacks in Multan,Peshawar,Rawalpindi etc. He has blamed the Army leadership for breaking their deal with TTP at the instance of USA and entering ” SETTLED AREAS” as he called it. Is JI working for RAW?
    Provincial Presidnet of Peshwar Ibrahim Khan of JI has asked indirectly Pakistani soldiers not to indulge in killings.
    HIra Mir,@9,
    Wahabists equate anyone who donot follow their ideology with Jews, Hindus and Christians. So Pakistani Army following USA will be equated with satan as it enters North wazirstan and so they can be killed as they are NOT MUSLIMS according to wahab.

  16. Dear Nazia and Johann,

    You questions pertain to a common perception found among the masses which is certainly an out come of a illusionary state prevalent in Pakistan about the Afghani Taliban and the so called a new creed (TTP) which is trying to imitate Taliban wearing their fake name in Pakistan on purpose.

    To understand it better we need to differentiate between the Afghani Taliban and the traitors (TTP) that we have got in Pakistan.

    Where as the Taliban movement in Afghanistan has been duly supported by Pakistan in the past and even after the incident of 9/11 when US invaded Afghanistan and toppled their government—-that even then they did enjoy a brotherly support.

    The old training camps in FATA earlier used during Afghan Jihad war against Soviet Union were still intact. After US invasion when Taliban escaped the US forces invasion—same took a shape of Taliban Sanctuaries. Pakistan was asked to disallow Taliban to use its space but —since Pakistan never had a physical control over FATA area so as per the requirement the sanctuaries could not be closed. Earlier on when US started bombarding Al Qaeda dens in Tora Bora Mountain to quell Al Qaeda;—— Al Qaeda also managed to trickle down to FATA area and took a refuge here along with Taliban.

    Pakistan had no intention to eliminate Taliban but owing to the retaliatory actions under taken by Al Qaeda which preceded the Tora Bora pounding by US and later US invasion of Afghanistan that Both Taliban and Al Qaeda; the prime targets of US were now placed and boxed in same camp. Pakistan was left with no choice but to act against both the groups. Although Taliban— they had gone back in Afghanistan to fight for their freedom against the invading US- NATO forces but their presence was still marked in FATA as they still used it as their regrouping and returning bases.

    This was a riddle and dilemma for Pakistan which has put its sovereignty at stake but this is also the time when to advance US plan and for the further exploitation of Pakistan——a group (TTP) was raised by CIA in Pakistan. In order to garner a quick fame and good standing enjoyed by Taliban in Afghanistan—very tactfully Taliban name was pasted on this subversive group Tehrik.

    It is matter of differentiating Taliban and grouping them separatelly to under stand them better. They are:
    • Taliban which can be grouped as Taliban of before 9/11 having their government in Afghanistan.
    • The Taliban when their government was toppled and they also hosted Al Qaeda in FATA sanctuaries and other makeshift shelters.
    • Afghani Taliban now fighting in Afghanistan
    • And the group raised, trained and nurtured by CIA in Pakistan (TTP) disguise as Taliban to dismantle Pakistan. This group has the fake name of Taliban and is carrying out all sort of subversive activities in Pakistan.

    This must be borne in mind that Pakistan has been responsible in the war against Soviet Union when there used to be Mujahideen. Later after 9/11 and after the invasion of afghnistan by US—- Pakistan was assigned the task to act as the front state and eliminate the Al Qaeda sanctuaries; Musharraf negotiated and Pakistan was paid handsomely for this operation—- as the cost of on going war.

    That is known as Musharraf’s famous U-Turn which was unfortunately negated by the masses but irony is that if his decision of evicting Al Qaeda was not turn down then— there would have been no TTP today.

    And what are we have done in Swat-Malakand and doing now in Waziristan?

    what all Musharraf wanted to do eight years back— eleimnating the traitors.

    [Ha-aey ous zood pashaymann ka pashaymann houna?}

  17. Dear Johann,
    You have also asked about Amir of JI; Syed Munnawar Hussein.
    Well the man is trying to under take an exercise to do a damage control that their total investment in TTP has gone in vain. He deamet a dream which he is seeing it —shattered.

    Those were the days that owing to the dictator ship in the country they used to black mail him easily—and the prevailing precarious situation of war on terror that CIA had managed to raise a Tehrik called TTP—– It was raised with their connivance. JI along with Fazluu were paid extravagantly to nurture this Tehrik that JI along with fazluu and Imran khan of Tehrik e Insaaf ; —-they all saw making of a Emirate starting from— Swatt –Malakand to Waziristan and extending to the far off end of Baluchistan reaching Arabian Sea.

    But for the military action—–!
    Alas—- their dream is seen shattered and it is shattered miserably.

    Don’t you see; how active some of their sympathiser are?—-Even here on TPS— that they do not leave a single chance to malign our Armed Forces.

    [Dekha Jo murr kay---- tou pather apni gali say hee aya tha....!]

  18. Hi Khokar,
    At last you have agreed that Fazlur Rehman, Munnawar Hussein and Jamaat Islami and TTP are all one and the same. Soon you will accept that they are all connected to Saudi Arabia.

  19. Khokar
    you have clearly ignored my civic point of view and just providing justification of jumping into war by our military team.
    You really cant think out of your box that Pakistan army is bound to play such games of “Dil Lagee” for proving her credibility to rule the nation.
    I don’t know exactly but these continuous war games have developed many phobias like demonophobia(fear of ghosts) or panphobia (fear of everything)in our minds.So our rulers also behave like that .
    As German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer once said, truth is ridiculed, then denied, and then “accepted as having been obvious to everyone from the beginning.”
    So both US and our leadership under US influence follow this rule because of low IQ of our nation.
    Obama is not as stupid as he justified in his speech for sending more troops in Afghanistan.The major flaws in his latest speech were
    -he wrongly admitted that 43 countries are involved in Afghanistan operation.Why he did so is still not clear but only 9 countries contributed their little proportion of army in the convoy of NATO forces.Other just sent few people with restricted movement in war zones.
    Then he declared that tali-bans are not popular in Afghanistan.He is ignoring the reality that still more than 15% population of that area support this superficial ideology and they all are armed and well trained guerrillas and all were promoted by US pak alliance and they still have support of our ex military men and religious forces in Pakistan.They are known as good talibans in our social circles.

    He emphasized the same strategy of Russians in 1986 and it is more men, more money and try harder even knowing that it has been failed earlier and they were also part of the game too but by standing on other side of battle ground.

    Now come to Musharraf point of view,he participated in this game to hold his position as Head of state.
    While doing this he tried to trick US by different ways and it brought more deadly consequences in our soil.He divided the civilian, army and religious groups into more fragments and his casual control on them transformed them into aggressive groups confronting each other on our streets.
    So present disturbance in civic areas and army movement in mountains are product of its tricky games mostly designed for his personal gains.That is the reason behind his early departure from his country as situation was started going against him.
    He now has been proved to be a coward and selfish leader who even couldnt stay on his stand which he overpowered with his friends continuously for more than 7 years.

  20. Johann,

    If I may say and I will say that you have really disappointed me.

    My dear friend; I must have written some over one hundred articles and most of them are published here on TPS. I think most of them, — hem on one thing that ;—although TTP in front of us is seen as a organisation carrying out subversive activities and that we keep on pointing these maroons out———but they are the foot soldiers; the executioners only. Whereas the real planners, the trainers and the financiers—— and above all——-the entire lot of beneficiaries; they were sitting somewhere else.
    The beneficiaries headed by Fazlur Rehman and all the members of his old mentor group— the MMA—- they are somehow sitting in Islamabad and occupying all the lobbies and ministerial posts. By using their authorities and influence; they keep on twisting arms of the government officials and remain busy black mailing.

    For instance the last operation Rah e Rast was the fourth such operation and three operation prior to the final operation could not be carried out or say completed that this group consisting of Fazluu and his cohorts; Ji, Imran Khan of Tehrik e Insaf and some other clerics——always came in the way to have it post pond. With the promise that let them fix it as these were their constituencies. They were finding that their TTP forces were not yet ready and that their grand plan to create a Emirate there—owing to the military action—— may go topsy-turvy.

    The list of traitors is—– in many folds.

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