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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-236550</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr GP'

Thanks for your comments. I think lot many people deserve much than you think. One must not jump to conclusion too early. Any how please do keep on coming on this site. Hopefully you will come to know the real and true face of all the dilemmas that Pakistan is facing at the moment.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr GP&#8217;</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. I think lot many people deserve much than you think. One must not jump to conclusion too early. Any how please do keep on coming on this site. Hopefully you will come to know the real and true face of all the dilemmas that Pakistan is facing at the moment.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-236487</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Incredible Indian,

I remained absent from this forum for a while and I see that there are many turns that this region has taken and many a moves have come in light. I could see that some one is posting comments with different names but messages had the same known writing of Incredible man. Any how well come back with your original title. I am happy to see you back. May Almighty God shower you and your family with His blessings.  

After Mumbai attack that societies on both sides of border were still trying to cope that we now have a repeat of same very episode played here in Lahore; as they were not yet satisfied with the massacre carried out in Mumbai? Probably there is some unfinished agenda that was yet to be fulfilled.

On other side: US is bent to amass her troops on our western border; beefing up by about 17000 more troops is scheduled. Looks like situation is also being created to spread more of anarchy in Pakistan and see that it ripe into chaos so that US- NATO troops are asked to move into Pakistani territory on the pretext to quell anarchy in this region. (what a prtext?)

But this is to be seen that what part is played by our neighbour at our eastern border.

Because:
[*]Mohabtoun main sadda sey laga hey ek dharka sa;
    Naan janey kab kahan koi rasta badal jaey ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Incredible Indian,</p>
<p>I remained absent from this forum for a while and I see that there are many turns that this region has taken and many a moves have come in light. I could see that some one is posting comments with different names but messages had the same known writing of Incredible man. Any how well come back with your original title. I am happy to see you back. May Almighty God shower you and your family with His blessings.  </p>
<p>After Mumbai attack that societies on both sides of border were still trying to cope that we now have a repeat of same very episode played here in Lahore; as they were not yet satisfied with the massacre carried out in Mumbai? Probably there is some unfinished agenda that was yet to be fulfilled.</p>
<p>On other side: US is bent to amass her troops on our western border; beefing up by about 17000 more troops is scheduled. Looks like situation is also being created to spread more of anarchy in Pakistan and see that it ripe into chaos so that US- NATO troops are asked to move into Pakistani territory on the pretext to quell anarchy in this region. (what a prtext?)</p>
<p>But this is to be seen that what part is played by our neighbour at our eastern border.</p>
<p>Because:<br />
[*]Mohabtoun main sadda sey laga hey ek dharka sa;<br />
    Naan janey kab kahan koi rasta badal jaey ?</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-236472</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Akhtar Hussien,

As you said that there is nothing that ISI i.e. Pakistan may gain any thing out of incident of Lahore attack; then we have to look who are the one who are to benefit out of this? Who are the one who orchestrated all this and on what account? What are the motives?

It may be easy to point out that probably it is the RAW of India behind all this but we have to see that if RAW is involved then what is the purpose? Is RAW acting here as proxy of some third party?

It is quite possible that when we are busy slandering each other there is some third party ( may be in collaboration with our neighbours) busy in such untoward actions like Lahore or Mumbai attacks. Make such consecutive moves that Pakistan is not availed any respite and is declared as the epicentre of Terrorism. Destabilize and cripple it to the extent that ultimately move in from its western as well as eastern borders and defang it of its nuclear defensive assets.

There comes a stage; a litmus test for India. Will India come forward to help Pakistan or she will abet the third party (enemies of Pakistan) and see the defang-ing being carried out in her neighbour hood?

[*] Sathi hou to samjho gey; ab dil kee hey mushkil kiya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Akhtar Hussien,</p>
<p>As you said that there is nothing that ISI i.e. Pakistan may gain any thing out of incident of Lahore attack; then we have to look who are the one who are to benefit out of this? Who are the one who orchestrated all this and on what account? What are the motives?</p>
<p>It may be easy to point out that probably it is the RAW of India behind all this but we have to see that if RAW is involved then what is the purpose? Is RAW acting here as proxy of some third party?</p>
<p>It is quite possible that when we are busy slandering each other there is some third party ( may be in collaboration with our neighbours) busy in such untoward actions like Lahore or Mumbai attacks. Make such consecutive moves that Pakistan is not availed any respite and is declared as the epicentre of Terrorism. Destabilize and cripple it to the extent that ultimately move in from its western as well as eastern borders and defang it of its nuclear defensive assets.</p>
<p>There comes a stage; a litmus test for India. Will India come forward to help Pakistan or she will abet the third party (enemies of Pakistan) and see the defang-ing being carried out in her neighbour hood?</p>
<p>[*] Sathi hou to samjho gey; ab dil kee hey mushkil kiya?</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-236230</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Aftab S Alam and friends

It looks like that when ever we talk about religion and when name of Islam comes up; some how  a common perception  erupts in the mind of commoners; especially the people who have not seen Islam closely and prefer staying other side of the fence.  Day in and day out, our media is bent to portray, only the bad picture of Islam and makes the things more foggy that probably; Islam is the religion which is all out to attain its supremacy by coercing all others to bring them into their fold by force. This perception puts every body on defence and we hear a common rhetoric especially in the west that all the atrocities that western forces after occupying the Islamic countries are carrying out, are with the view to defend their way of life at home and quell and keep the evil at bay.

But we need to under stand Islam. First and foremost is that Islam has got no place for any kind of terrorism. Terrorist are found in all the nations and in all the religions of the world but terrorist, they  may not be religious. Phenomenon of terror applied by certain nations is a tactic to carry out their cowardice manoeuvres while using religion as weapon. In the name of terrorism and declaring there. a war against terrorism, certain oppressor nations are on their spree to manipulate and subjugate the targeted people or nations for their ulterior motives. 

But this is an era of information and there is no doubt that the Last commandments of God Almighty bestowed in Islam, are now well known in all the societies of the world. Knowing it to such that people have to come forward and accept the last commandments; there happens to be wide range resentment campaigns enforced in all such societies to make sure that message of Islam is sufficiently obliterated, negated and maligned. 

We should bear in mind that Islam has not come as rival of other religions. Rather Islam confirms and validates the previous divinely teachings [1] and offers higher degree guidance in accordance with universal divinely plans of God Almighty. Islam is the only religion which has been destined by our creator for the future of the mankind. Islam being the bearers of higher divinely education may not be against the old and basic or primary educations; rather the successes of older teachings and their marked achievements are the bases that God Almighty blessed this world with His final message of peace and harmony and named it Islam. Islam furnishes the divinely light to bring the improvement and enlightenment in our respective societies. 

It is known fact that it has always been difficult for the humans to shed and shake the old adopted myths and practices because humans by nature love and relish, to remain restrained and bound by mysteries found in old myths. And if these myths happen to be religious one; it is more so difficult in leaving those self imposed mythical confinements. Myths are also influenced and rightly or wrongly strongly guarded by the religious zealots, authorities and other groups safe guarding their vested interests and opulances held by them. 

There are preset mind and preconceived ideas created n floated, to keep us at distances which keep the societies stuck in the old ruts and restricts n bound to think without prejudice.

Let’s build the bridges; not the barriers and find the common grounds to march toward the divinely enlightenment and for the betterment of the people of our societies that we love and live.
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Love for all, Hatred for None

[1] Primary Teachings contained in the books of Torah, the Bible and other Holy Books</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Aftab S Alam and friends</p>
<p>It looks like that when ever we talk about religion and when name of Islam comes up; some how  a common perception  erupts in the mind of commoners; especially the people who have not seen Islam closely and prefer staying other side of the fence.  Day in and day out, our media is bent to portray, only the bad picture of Islam and makes the things more foggy that probably; Islam is the religion which is all out to attain its supremacy by coercing all others to bring them into their fold by force. This perception puts every body on defence and we hear a common rhetoric especially in the west that all the atrocities that western forces after occupying the Islamic countries are carrying out, are with the view to defend their way of life at home and quell and keep the evil at bay.</p>
<p>But we need to under stand Islam. First and foremost is that Islam has got no place for any kind of terrorism. Terrorist are found in all the nations and in all the religions of the world but terrorist, they  may not be religious. Phenomenon of terror applied by certain nations is a tactic to carry out their cowardice manoeuvres while using religion as weapon. In the name of terrorism and declaring there. a war against terrorism, certain oppressor nations are on their spree to manipulate and subjugate the targeted people or nations for their ulterior motives. </p>
<p>But this is an era of information and there is no doubt that the Last commandments of God Almighty bestowed in Islam, are now well known in all the societies of the world. Knowing it to such that people have to come forward and accept the last commandments; there happens to be wide range resentment campaigns enforced in all such societies to make sure that message of Islam is sufficiently obliterated, negated and maligned. </p>
<p>We should bear in mind that Islam has not come as rival of other religions. Rather Islam confirms and validates the previous divinely teachings [1] and offers higher degree guidance in accordance with universal divinely plans of God Almighty. Islam is the only religion which has been destined by our creator for the future of the mankind. Islam being the bearers of higher divinely education may not be against the old and basic or primary educations; rather the successes of older teachings and their marked achievements are the bases that God Almighty blessed this world with His final message of peace and harmony and named it Islam. Islam furnishes the divinely light to bring the improvement and enlightenment in our respective societies. </p>
<p>It is known fact that it has always been difficult for the humans to shed and shake the old adopted myths and practices because humans by nature love and relish, to remain restrained and bound by mysteries found in old myths. And if these myths happen to be religious one; it is more so difficult in leaving those self imposed mythical confinements. Myths are also influenced and rightly or wrongly strongly guarded by the religious zealots, authorities and other groups safe guarding their vested interests and opulances held by them. </p>
<p>There are preset mind and preconceived ideas created n floated, to keep us at distances which keep the societies stuck in the old ruts and restricts n bound to think without prejudice.</p>
<p>Let’s build the bridges; not the barriers and find the common grounds to march toward the divinely enlightenment and for the betterment of the people of our societies that we love and live.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Love for all, Hatred for None</p>
<p>[1] Primary Teachings contained in the books of Torah, the Bible and other Holy Books</p>
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		<title>By: Akhtar Hussain</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-235470</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhtar Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Khokar,

We in India are as much perturbed by what happened in Lahore as any one in Pakistan. By attacking a non political, innocent sportperson terrorism has touched a new low.

I also agree that there are striking similarities between Mumbai attack and this Lahore attack, but since evidence point fingers very strongly towards Pakistan army and ISI for Mumbai episode are you willing to accept ISI role in these attacks as well.

I know there is nothing for ISI to gain out of this attack but is it not that ISI has created a monster which now is getting out of control and is posing danger to the creater itself. Taliban's case is classic example, creation of Pak army now had Pakistan army buckled to it's knees. Pakistan had to sign a peace deal to avoid casualities. This is high time that people like you start looking at your house first rather than pointing fingers towards India.

"Pakistan is the gift of God, bestowed to the best of his chosen people— called Pakistanis. On Pakistani soil, we all walk by faith— in a Living God and not by mere worldly gains— in our sight. May Creator of this universe direct our steps!"

Ask an ordinary Pakistani, does he believ that Pakistan is gift of God, a zannat...your spineless leadership and greedy generals have made Pakistan a living hell. No body wants to come and play in Pakistan. No body wants to do business with you, economy is in shambles, entire world realizes that your army is good to kill only unarmed Bangladeshi, muhazirs or innocents in Kashmir through terrorists, your forces can not stand up to Pashtuns. Put your house in order Khokar, stop looking at India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Khokar,</p>
<p>We in India are as much perturbed by what happened in Lahore as any one in Pakistan. By attacking a non political, innocent sportperson terrorism has touched a new low.</p>
<p>I also agree that there are striking similarities between Mumbai attack and this Lahore attack, but since evidence point fingers very strongly towards Pakistan army and ISI for Mumbai episode are you willing to accept ISI role in these attacks as well.</p>
<p>I know there is nothing for ISI to gain out of this attack but is it not that ISI has created a monster which now is getting out of control and is posing danger to the creater itself. Taliban&#8217;s case is classic example, creation of Pak army now had Pakistan army buckled to it&#8217;s knees. Pakistan had to sign a peace deal to avoid casualities. This is high time that people like you start looking at your house first rather than pointing fingers towards India.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pakistan is the gift of God, bestowed to the best of his chosen people— called Pakistanis. On Pakistani soil, we all walk by faith— in a Living God and not by mere worldly gains— in our sight. May Creator of this universe direct our steps!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ask an ordinary Pakistani, does he believ that Pakistan is gift of God, a zannat&#8230;your spineless leadership and greedy generals have made Pakistan a living hell. No body wants to come and play in Pakistan. No body wants to do business with you, economy is in shambles, entire world realizes that your army is good to kill only unarmed Bangladeshi, muhazirs or innocents in Kashmir through terrorists, your forces can not stand up to Pashtuns. Put your house in order Khokar, stop looking at India.</p>
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		<title>By: GP</title>
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		<dc:creator>GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I condemn the attack on Srilanka Cricket team... but not the attack on Pakistan Because they deserve it......When we are doing all such wrong things to others, one day it will revert back to us... that day has come for Pakistan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I condemn the attack on Srilanka Cricket team&#8230; but not the attack on Pakistan Because they deserve it&#8230;&#8230;When we are doing all such wrong things to others, one day it will revert back to us&#8230; that day has come for Pakistan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: premji</title>
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		<dc:creator>premji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aftab, you are simply great by your thoughts. Hope all the Pakistanis have such kind of thinking. Anyway, where is your BEST friend Nazia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aftab, you are simply great by your thoughts. Hope all the Pakistanis have such kind of thinking. Anyway, where is your BEST friend Nazia?</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/lahore-attack-it-is-a-spent-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-235366</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: 'sole property'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: &#8217;sole property&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Aftab S. Alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aftab S. Alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ref #6: Khokar Sahib, sir, I have problems with this concept of "purity" and so on. In addition to this, in my view all those, including myself, who claim to be adherents of Islam must accept this that all of us are not angels (simple by virtue of being Muslims) and nothing gives us an immunity from being called dangerous if we behave irresponsibly. For me, an evil is an evil (it is neither Indian nor Pakistani; it is neither Hindu, Christian, Jew, or Muslim) and I do not see any reason to hide or protect it; evil is evil and it is common enemy of virtue. I am against this divisions of people in the name of any dogmas, believe me there is no limit to further divisions. I just do not cater to any form of national arrogance. I just do not wish sending our boys, all our boys Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs whatever, to wars any wars, I want them all to live and I wish to see them schooled, provided with a job and so on.

Sir, God is not our soul 'property', He is not limited to our wellfare, progress or wellbeing. He has created us all including the Jews, the Christians and the Hidus etc. and cares and sustains them all (if at all He takes it upon Himself ! ). Allow me this 'gustakhi' - God is above our petty conflicts and God does not even need our services (whatsoever) and if we do wish to do something in His name we all must learn to care for all His creatures including us the humans. 

Respects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref #6: Khokar Sahib, sir, I have problems with this concept of &#8220;purity&#8221; and so on. In addition to this, in my view all those, including myself, who claim to be adherents of Islam must accept this that all of us are not angels (simple by virtue of being Muslims) and nothing gives us an immunity from being called dangerous if we behave irresponsibly. For me, an evil is an evil (it is neither Indian nor Pakistani; it is neither Hindu, Christian, Jew, or Muslim) and I do not see any reason to hide or protect it; evil is evil and it is common enemy of virtue. I am against this divisions of people in the name of any dogmas, believe me there is no limit to further divisions. I just do not cater to any form of national arrogance. I just do not wish sending our boys, all our boys Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs whatever, to wars any wars, I want them all to live and I wish to see them schooled, provided with a job and so on.</p>
<p>Sir, God is not our soul &#8216;property&#8217;, He is not limited to our wellfare, progress or wellbeing. He has created us all including the Jews, the Christians and the Hidus etc. and cares and sustains them all (if at all He takes it upon Himself ! ). Allow me this &#8216;gustakhi&#8217; - God is above our petty conflicts and God does not even need our services (whatsoever) and if we do wish to do something in His name we all must learn to care for all His creatures including us the humans. </p>
<p>Respects.</p>
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		<title>By: Incredible Indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incredible Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i request everyone NOT to take my name and post rubbish in TPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i request everyone NOT to take my name and post rubbish in TPS.</p>
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