It was great to see the discussion being moderated and I should specially thank Aftab for that. Forget about a few who take delight out of abusing others, let us as human beings of the world discuss constructively and with positive mind frame on the well being of the world as a whole and our region in particular.

Thanks Aftab, for controlling the emotional out bursts. Have a feeling that you are staying outside Pakistan and that is the reason you can appreciate the situation better and see the bigger picture.

There are a few points I would like to make as a fellow human being and definitely as a brother.

1. The conspiracy theories have destroyed communist Soviet Union as it mostly overlooked its weaknesses and then imploded. The same is happening with Pakistan, where for anything untoward happening they have blamed US, Israel and India (an generally the west). Blaming does not solve the problem my brother. Just like blaming the weather for my illness will not cure it. It is Pakistan’s duty to cure what is happening inside Pakistan

2. Islam is another religion which has followers in paractically all countries. They all have to follow the rules of the country they stay. They have to use the governance structure and policies in that country to etch out their living. Pakistan should not behave as the big brother of all muslims in the world. Pakistan has been too much vociferous for anything and everything in the name of Islam, which no other Islamic nation has done with so much of consistency.

3. Pakistan should follow the rules of the nations and not create, train and nurture millitant groups to export terror in the name of Islam, Palestine, Kashmir, Chechnya, etc. This is meddling with other countries. It is getting into bad books of every one as this is one thing which is unaccountable (unofficial) so control is difficult. There are methods the nations follow, which can be adopted. Even for kashmir, the bilateral dialogues yeilded better results than sponsoring millitancies. That is why now every country is wary of Pakistan

4. Pakistan should like China, India, Malayasia, Vietnam, etc give more priority to trade and business so as to become a developed country faster. Being located strategically between Middle east, Central Asia and India, it has huge potential to live out of India.

5. To enable all above the first thing needed is to revamp the education system all across. Bring in more scientific education. Bring up great engineering colleges. The syllabus should more universal than only Islamic. That way the generations will have better world view and would be better prepared to think out of box.

6. For the immediate future bite the bullet for sometime and put a pause on enemity with India. Accept the US aid and improve the society. Concentrate the forces on fighting the unaccountable warriors who has already started engulping Pakistan. Even ask for India’s help on that (try out your luck - may be you will be surprised). Once done you can still enjoy enemity with India. India cannot escape Pakistan as it will be neighbour always.

We need Pakistan (and not Talibanistan) for the world for the games (cricket hockey, squash, etc), music (we miss them), the dramas (Budda ghar pe hai !!!) and so many others. Once the trade starts, we may be having lots of Pakistan food chains, clothings, marbles, and so more.

Brother, together we are destined to be great but fighting each other will diminish our strength. We have stayed as brothers for 1000 years, I am sure we can continue to stay like that. Having houses side by side makes us take independent decisions but also help each other at the time of needs.

Your well wisher

My statement of Sadak Chhaap……… and it boiled your blood.

Lagta hai maine aap ki dukhti rag pe haanth rakh diya tha.

[Nikal jaey deen siasat sey; tour reh jatee hey Changazi]

Stop quoting Quran verses in your comments.

If you have something to write please do that, rather than quoting verses.

Why do you have to bring religion in each and every discussion. Religion are big, very big and should be talked about on every occasion that you find.

You are not respecting it here and lowering level of it by bring it in every discussion.

Last verse: reference is [4:47]

Regards

Al-Baqarah[2:143] “And thus have We made you an exalted nation, that you may be guardians over men, and the Messenger of God may be a guardian over you”.

[2:143] اور اسی طرح ہم نے تمہیں وسطی اُمت بنادیا تاکہ تم لوگوں پر نگران ہو جاؤ اور رسول تم پر نگران ہو جائ

Al-Anbiya’ [21:73] “And We made them leaders who guided people by Our command, and We sent revelation to them enjoining the doing of good works, and the observing of Prayer, and the giving of alms. And they were worshippers of Us alone.”
[21:73] اور ہم نے انہیں ایسے امام بنایا جو ہمارے حکم سے ہدایت دیتے تھے اور ہم انہیں اچھی باتیں کرنے اور نماز قائم کرنے اور زکوٰۃ دینے کی وحی کرتے تھے۔ اور وہ ہماری عبادت کرنے والے تھے۔

Al-Nisa’[4:47] “O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have sent down, fulfilling that which is with you, before We destroy some of the leaders and turn them on their backs or curse them as We cursed the People of the Sabbath. And the decree of Allah is bound to be carried out.”
[4:48] اے وہ لوگو جو کتاب دیئے گئے ہو! اس پر ایمان لے آؤ جو ہم نے اتارا ہے تصدیق کرتا ہوا اس کی جو تمہارے پاس ہے۔ پیشتر اس کے کہ ہم بعض چہروں کو داغ دیں اور انہیں ان کی پیٹھوں کے بل لوٹا دیں یا ان پر اسی طرح لعنت ڈالیں جس طرح ہم نے سبت والوں پر لعنت ڈالی تھی۔ اور اللہ کا فیصلہ تو پورا ہوکر رہنے والا ہے۔

Regards

They all must go!

Now about your surprise. Sajjad, you wrote,” it is the leaders who are the administatrors they are responsible…” This is what is totally wrong and I am against it. The set up is not designed or meant for personal loyalties; it’s the manipulation of the system, these gangsters have made the civil servants totally subservient to their whims and tanturms. The police department or the municipal services, postal or communication system should be and was totally independent of who and which party was in power.

Good that you gave this example of Shahbaz Sharif’s dismissal and various departments and contractors abandoning their administrative and contractual obligation. You said it! Where does the fault lie? If contractors and administrators are sucked into party politics and stop functioning, how do you justify blaming a president or a governor for this. I am sorry if I appear to be defending any of these jokers, I am not because I consider them all parasites, the self-serving dwarfs, the mafioso. This is the reason that I so sincerely wish that in these ‘gang wars’ one they liquidate as many of the gangsters they can, so that the nation has it bit easier to take care of the rest. This might have explained m joy of seeing someone “kicked out”. O’ how I wish to witness them all being ‘kicked around’ all over the country.

Save your life first and your last para in the article says it all. Taliban power share in Afghan, why to go to Afghanistan for that, in that case hand over the power to Taliban in Pakistan it self.

There is no doubt that Lahore attack was the repeat of drama orchestrated by the same savage stooges who staged it in Mumbai. When the required results could not be achieved in Mumbai yet another futile effort is made here in Lahore. It is repeating of ill aimed prescription.—- A foolish effort that it exposes the evil design so glaringly.

Any how; when Sri Lankan they know the crux of matter; Pakistan is not bother about any thing else.

.If the aim of these stooges is spreading of anarchy and chaos in Pakistan; then they could have attacked the gathering and procession being widely and openly held now a days through out Punjab. People in millions are participating there. But here Sir Lankan team was made as target; to make it international news. It is yet another effort to Malign Pakistan but a futile effort to push Pakistan yet one more step toward declaring it a den of terrorist.

But:
The scavengers; they may see every moving cow a dead carcass but probably their wish may not come to pass?

The name ‘Premji’ as one may understand is a title given to some one; a person who is ‘karam chari’ of love and affections and strives for the betterment in the society. A man, who against all the odds spreads love and peace. At the face of it ‘prem’ means loving and affectionate and ‘Ji’ can not be adopted by some one at its own but it is a title given by the people among whom one lives—- as a respect. NO Mr prem may call himself as ‘Premji’at his own.

Contrary to the general understanding that one derives out of the name of ‘premji’; the use of words like ‘Sarak Chaap’ by this fake stooge is most disgusting. So first and foremost is that Mr Prem is a fake person; a savage who is moving around in a sheep clothing.

It is generally observed that most of our Indian friends appearing here on this forum; availing the freedom of speech that this forum extends out of respects and the human rights of participants to express themselves freely; invariably they go down the road of slandering and they love slinging of mud and filth. Hurling of abuses is some how a favourite execise. It certainly reflects the society that they belong but strange enough; at the same time they also claim to be the educated lot.

Mr Prem; who so ever you are? You are please requested to refrain from using abusive language and name calling. Here we are discussing the current affairs and we must not deviate from the bounds of the given subject. We must come up only with the best comments and wishes to solve the problems and try to unearth the truth so that our societies may turn toward their betterment; peace and harmony.

Other wise please be mind full that in Pakistan people also drink the same water gushing out of those towering Himalaya but probably in much purer form than, what is available in India— because beyond Pakistani borders it becomes more polluted.

Regards