How to Retaliate to America
By Brig. (r) Junaid Zaman • Sep 14th, 2008 • Category: Politics, Worth A Second Look • 16 CommentsThe third country is about to be engulfed by the US monster hawks in the name of war against terror, and the recent strings of attacks on the tribal region of Pakistan are just the start of it. The Americans violated the independence and sovereignty of Pakistan by landing their troops at Angoor Ada in South Waziristan, and then these troops killed the Pakistani children and ladies and the men in the name of killing “terrorists”. The attacks on the different parts of the FATA area have become a norm and mind you, it’s not a small thing and we have to come out of our lavish lives in Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi and in other cities, because the fire will soon reach to our cosy rooms and warm beds.
One may also say that the recent Gustav and Ike hurricanes in America were the result of the prayers of Osama Bin Laden against America, but that’s all he could do against America, and the his all power, rage and revenge is leashed and aimed at the Muslim brethren while providing enough excuses to the US led NATO forces to capture one Muslim country after another. Osama could be the next Lawrence of Arabia, a more deadly one.
The war has been now forced upon the Pakistan, and we cannot just ignore it anymore now. Suicide bombings and bomb blasts in our cities will look like a blessing when the US fires spreads to the whole of Pakistan, and when US troops would roam the streets of Pakistan while breaking into homes, killing children and men and abducting ladies. New bloody sagas of torture and violence would be written and there would be enough people left in the world to sadistically watch the Abu-Gharib pictures like pictures from Pakistan.
The question is what should we do exactly right now? Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani says, “We can take up the matter of unilateral strikes in Pakistan at diplomatic level, but cannot wage war.” That sums up the courage and the limits of our leaders. We have the nukes and we have the missile technology but that’s strictly for use for India in a traditional warfare. That left us with nothing, and makes the nukes a liability rather. Diplomatic war with United States? That’s a bloody joke, because who would we be kidding? The only way to counter such attacks is to gun down some of the drones, fire dozens of intermittent missiles near Bagram and then feign innocence, and then pledge to support the US cause in the region, and Zardari could then flash as many smiles as he wants on the Americans. That response would be befitting and would be equivalent to thousands of diplomatic tactics.
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Brigadier saheb,
You and your Army is conditioned to think India as the ONLY ENEMY from the days of Pakistan’s creation.You were useful in snaring an Independent India into the embrace of your bedmate.Now he is fed up of you and wants the new bride. When Musharaff created kargil at the back of elected Nawaz, you guys applauded his genius and now ANGOOR ADA is showing who is the real enemy OF SUBCONTINENT
There are many ways to retaliate against the strikes in Pakistan if there is a will to do so. At present about 500 truck loads are daily going from karachi to Afghanistan carrying logistics and probably the firearms which are being used on us also. We can just stop the trucks from going to Afghanistan and within days US will compromise.
About cutting their supply lines ,one of the MNAs from People’s Party Ms.Farzana Raja dismissed such a possibilty on the basis of some so called technical grounds on Capital Talk (If I remember it Rightly) and those technical grounds were not discussed at all.Which means that the current regime is not at all interested in giving the Americans any fight.They would keep on attacking and our government would condemn the act only in the assembly hall and then we would wait for the second attack.they just cant make the Americans angry at them as it may destabilize the government which they have got after quite a long hiatus.
American based Pakistanis Saturday lodged a strong protest against US infiltration into Pakistani areas bordering Afghanistan at the Times Square Building in New York.
The protesters carried banners and placards marking slogans that asked U.S. to immediately halt US-led NATO forces’ penetration into Pakistan boarders besides Afghanistan.
The protest lasted for no less than two hours, which Police tried to disburse initially on suspicion of unavailability of protesting permit however, the demonstration came to end peacefully after two hours.
This Brig seems a real coward man, who is writing that US will walk on our roads and will burn our homes etc etc. Retired Brig sahab, you must take flight and sell your Askari Apartment and 100’s Acres of land and fly to Dubai for saving your life. How can you even imagine that US army will walk in our streets…In the presence of Brave Pakistanis, no body can walk on our streets and I endorse it loudly and clearly. Atleast I will defend the country, if situation will get worse. I can not see any enemy on my streets, raping our women and burning our homes.
I feel shame that people like you, who served tens of years in Army are talking like this. I have never meet any other Army Officer, who is talking like this. How you can defend country if you can imagine such scenario of US on our roads. It is better to stop writing instead of spreading disappointment among readers and creating fear.
Yes;
When political chaos induced by the oppressor unwinds it self into anarchy to let walk on the streets; the tyranny follows to annihilate.
Dear Kashif and Friends,
In the given situation at the face of it; you may think of any thing to squander the initiative off from the enemy and hamper his capabilities by disrupting his supply line. But it may not be possible because the oppressor on the other side happens to be the super power that has landed in our area with well thought plans. [Joe Kachie Golian nahein khailta!]
First and far most is that in Afghanistan there are two types of foreign forces; Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan, which is a joint U.S. and Afghan operation, with some involvement from other nations. This force is a separate from the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), which is an operation of NATO nations including the U.S. The two operations run in parallel. Both the forces have got the United Nation authorisations to operate in Afghanistan on the given programme. Especially the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) is an international stabilization force authorized by the United Nations Security Council on December 20, 2001.
Pakistan being the part of UNO and area of operation Afghanistan being a land locked country; Pakistan has been asked to provide and maintain the logistic line and is obliged to assist in providing the transportation and ensure safe logistic routes for IASF. Pakistan may not be able to hinder or stop the movement of supplies through its territory.
What Pakistan could do; is establish her writ in all parts of our country. It will be absurd to call FATA a lawless land; we have to take care and full account of the situ and under all the circumstances there can’t be said that; we are breeding some traitors in our own home land working against the interests of our own homeland. Any one found working against the home land is supposed to be dealt with properly. They be lead no where; except to the Gallows.
Its pity; Pakistan is the only country in the world which knowing breeds its own traitors and no one dare calling them the traitors.
After attainment of complete writ; any intruder is the enemy. Any one casting a bad eye, be dealt with the blatant force; In this regard our action must be pre-emptive and not passive or deferred. Let all the drones and missile approaching our border be blasted off the sky; set an example no one will dare turning back.
Go with the commandment of Allah: Al-Anfal Chapter 8 : Verse 60, “ And make ready for them who fight you whatever you can of armed force and of mounted pickets at the frontier, whereby you may frighten the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you know not, but Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah, it shall be paid back to you in full and you shall not be wronged.”
Regards
I am not too much into watching Indian movies but from the few I have seen I have learnt that giving threats to the darling really works. This is something that Iran has done with success by threatening to attack Isreal. Bad idea?
Dear khokar
Please come out with solution.
Results do not wait for happening.
Actions though are single acts but have duet expression in terms of acts, as action and sometimes like reaction or retaliation.
This is time to dig and execute action, whether it is perceived in terms of action or reaction.
Khokar here! Lies, the problem, we are still wondering to dig the intentions.
Dear if he is here with motive and plan, that shall only culminate at execution and exercise, which insane would let you complete the task to fulfill the desire, so to establish writ in FATA.
Khokar I told you, what has been made destined by fate can only revert by sacrifice, belief and faith.
What is this concept of sophisticated, powerful, huge army waiting for humiliation?
Dear what more can be done to an individual who is willfully and willingly acted to come to the battle field with the only option of survival.
Please see I try to keep discussion beyond and away from religious bindings as any body attending the battle have same slogan of faith according to his bearings.
In my opinion, as per my belongings and attachments, I have reservoirs of such insignias and symbols, that are enough to be an ethical, logical and real reason to attend such critical issues of dire need, if at all, required by the nation.
This is the same ethical principality as Islam or any religion preaches which popularly in terms of Islam, known as jihad.
Now swiftly turning the discussion back to the theme of the article and your version of thoughts, I have no second thought but to remember again speech of Zulfiqar ali Bhutto in united nation.
Without going in to controversy of discussion neither would expect the same on the run of discussion, I consider those words as requirement of the time that can definitely be perceived by the enemy who ever he may be.
“The security council has acted short sightedly by acquiescing to the dilatory tactics”.
“You know! You have come to a point when we will say’
“Do what you like”.
“If before you have come to this point we could have made a commitment.”
“We could have said, all right! We are prepared to do something”.
Now! “Why should we”?
“You want to silence us by guns”?
“Silence our voice by arms”?
“So why should we say we are agreeing to any thing”?
“Now you decide what you like”.
“Your decision will not be a binding on us”.
“You can decide what you like”.
“You can do because, if you had left us a margin of hope, we might have been a party to some settlement”.
“I find it disgraceful to my person and to my country to remain here a moment longer than necessary”.
“But I am not boycotting”.
Impose!!! Impose! “Any decision”
“Have a treaty more than treaty of Versailles”
“Legalize aggression”
“Legalize occupation”
“Legalize every thing that has been illegal
“I will not be a party to it”
“We will fight; we will go back and fight”
“My country beckons for me”
“Why should I waste my time herein the security council”
My point is simple, why should I recall the memory and consult book so to express something as unique abstract on the philosophical input of speech, of some noble price holder, to varnish and garnish my comment as float, when we have wonderful well acted speech as precious event full episode of the past.
What is this security council and united nation ,if they can not hold the deliberate, intended move of someone at someplace ,that by law of ethics restricts by all means, ,thereby to dictate as acceptance in terms of sovereignty and integrity, as legal binding in international law.
Is it this council been made to fulfill the desire as lust of nation as superpower or is it like that they are there to endorse or legalize all acts of illegitimate desire as subject of principality ,as charter of duty.
Under what prerogative and obligation we should respect the dominant role of this organization when they have nothing to say on the issue of aggression in our premises.
Why don’t we let it go the way that is within our premises of achievement?
In my opinion any thing that is and that can be accomplished so to embarrass, from boycotting united nation to recalling of our ambassadors and similarly from supply route extermination to reflection as war like expression, is and shall be the strategy.
However every such mode and method should be sorted as preferred point so to reassemble the position as ultimate pending war.
Although, I do not want this war to become our part and parcel by any means, but still if it is the fate of imposing act, we should remain under active war like position and environment.
As to the ultimate resultant outcome of this behavior, we should not care as what else can be done or be retired on us other than to become abolish or destroyed.
Let the world know that joint effort of many activist of human right slogan, reacted together to demolish and destroy a single friendly partner without justified reason.
Let history be made that once there were people of nature who confronted the superpower with sticks in hand.
Let the historian criticize the event with the name of aggressor so to malign continuously for their act which could not become the fate of other nation again after our sacrifice.
Stand up, prepare nation, prove your identity caste, cadre, belongings, bearings, attachment and above all unity, faith and discipline. Regards
@ Brig. (r) Junaid Zaman:
Fully agree with your proposed course of action which is in line with the principle: Sanp bhee maray aur lathi bhee na tootay. That is the way to go.
@ Dr_Ghauri:
The course of action proposed by you should only be adopted if we are ready to face the punishment as a result of it which I don’t think we are. America will still survive if we stop its supply line. We may not survive if it stops our economic supply line. If your solution is followed: Sanp to maray ya na maray laathi zaroor toot jae gee.
Dear Dr Raza Haider and Friends
While talking about Pak- Afghan border skirmishes we have to understand what are the agreed Rules set for the operation to deal with any untoward situation along Pak –Afghan border.
Reportedly the General understanding and base to set the Standing Order Procedures (SOPs) are;
• In the wake of established fact it is admitted by Pakistan as such that FATA is the area which is infested with the element of Al-Qaeda.
• Al-Qaida dens are available in FATA and they are in use by Al-Qaeda as their sanctuaries and safe haven.
• Al-Qaeda is enforced as well as supported by Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan. The proof is that this Tehrik is placed as defunct by Pakistan.
• That Pakistan receives hell of amount from US to clear these sanctuaries and thus is carrying out mop up operations.
• It is agreed that in case the miscreants from FATA go across borders in Afghanistan to carry out Raids or Ambushes they will be dealt with by Pak Army effectively when detected.
• When they are in Afghanistan they will be dealt with and chased by US-NATO forces in a hot pursuit.
• That this hot pursuit may extend into Pakistan territory for 6 Miles.
Keeping in view the above agreed terms; what right of any retaliation is left with Pakistan if US-NATO forces are carrying out any raids, surveillances by Drones or Drone missile attacks as a hot pursuit? Reportedly all these surveillances and raids or attacks are with in agreed 6 Miles line radius.
After evaluating the above scenario; I may not go with any idea of retaliation or declaring a Jihad etc, etc…. or confrontation to plung Pak army against US-NATO Forces.
Let’s stop bickering about our dire situation in FATA. We have broken it so we ought to fix it. Pakistan must get rid of all the miscreant and traitors; lest this 6 miles radius is extended to 12 miles to 20, 50 and then 100 miles. This exterminator USA need not to go in pitch battle with our Army etc; they will exterminate us on these technical terms. In their books and our agreement and admissions on ground; any Retaliation will be taken as the terrorist act and to be dealt with under the Universal carved law of Global War on Terrorism.
A Punjabi proverb comes to mind which goes like this: After you have handed over your beard to others; it will be absurd to expect that they will not pull it harshly…. Or they say; Hoor Choopo.
What we can do is to stop their ration, but we are unable to do, our dollar loving people are not agreed upon it, the real courage comes when you don’t have weapons, having weapons and being coward:
http://www.pakspectator.com/preventing-us-nato-attack-on-western-border-an-effective-option
These so called Talibans are fighting it for us, if we were there we cannot stand for one day. When a military general is appointed by USA how dare he can act against them. these are statements to make nation fool that we can retaliate and we have the power to safeguard our country. As far as statements are concerned its ok, but pak army must show action by gunning down a drone into Pakistani territory and wipe its wreckage off the ground. Do it once a week, lets see how US of A comes in the streets of Pakistan
shame on us ,our leaders .our politicians and especially musharaff.if one european or american getskilled they raise hue and cry, here they are killing at will and all mr zardari has to offer is his brand new set of smiling shining teeth (recently polished at defence dental clinic).we are no more a nation now , all we ae , are plot buyers and housing scheme maniancs and rest is history…
Gilani says, “We can take up the matter of unilateral strikes in Pakistan at diplomatic level, but cannot wage war.”
“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of mind that thinks nothing is worth fighting for is far worse.” John Stuart Mill
as long as our mindset is like this there is no way we can rise to the occasion
I think that Brig Saheb has only written the idea of Americans conquering Pakistani Streets to frighten the nation and the government in the notion of provoking the idea of striking the intruding American forces which I think if is the idea then not a bad one. Indeed Fear is a very strong force of driving people to any thing. And I agree to the second statement as well. Because Americans will not shut up unless we slap them and tell them that we have an airforce navy and army and we are not helpless like Afghans or militarily weak like Iraqis. And America can’t just come and conquer every country she finds. As a matter of fact if by mistake America starts a war against us then Iran, China and even the injured Russia will come to fight with America if not to help us. Letting America conquering this region so near and so important to China and Russia is not a risk worth taking, I think we should use our diplomatic relations with China and Iran to support us. And try to convince Russia to forget our part in her defeat and to punish the real culprit and old enemy of hers. This if is accomplished will be a good boost to the failed unfortunate Foreign Policy of Pakistan.
I think that the idea which brigadier saheb is trying to give is that fear is a very resource full force to drive people to a conclusion or any action. Now I personally think he is trying to make people afraid by saying that the AMericans will conquer our streets which is not a bad idea if he has the notion to make the nation and the goverment retaliate agianst the intruding US forces. I also agree with the second idea. Because Americans are to be told now that they can’t just go and conquer every single country on the planet earth. IF they are not wise enough to learn a lesson by the economy destroyed by 2 big wars. And after so many casualties. Pakistan should be the last country to teach them a lesson for a final blow. Although it is not experimented because of some reason. But our Ghauri can reach Israel. And America will not like her agent in the Arabia to be disturbed by our nukes.And we will use those nukes if there is no other option. On the other hand we should also use our diplomatic relations with CHina Iran and Wounded Russia. China and Iran have a threat from the US showing aggression in this region which is a risk they will not be willing to take. Definitely they will support us to fight US even if not to help us. We have to convince Russia as well to forget our part in Afghan Russia war to convince her that US is her real enemy and to tell India to be a good kid and sit quietly while we handle the business with the US. If we accomplish this we can definitely rewrite the history of our failed poor foreign policy. The third and the most important thing is that we have to be self dependent economically. I personally think to make a ten country union which are agianst America and to do trade with each other. And start producing our middle quality products. As long as we are dependent on the west we can’t fight a strong meaningful war against the west.My political Science Professor once said that we are a nation who wants to beg others for money also and to fight with the ones who are giving us that money. Things don’t work that way. We have to start not thinking about how much time is needed to gain our objective but to just start the process. The more we think the more time will pass and the longer will be the journey to survival and success.