A Pakistani was arguing with an Indian that a crow is not black. The Indian tried to convince the Pakistani, and finally out of his frustration, he caught a crow and showed it to the Pakistani, and asked him to admit that a crow is black in colour. To his utter astonishment, the Pakistani said this is not crow.

This is an extract from http://www.carnegieendowment.org/files/120908_bombay%20transcript%20checked.pdf

“I just have the following points to make. Firstly, this is the first time investigations have involved friendly powers whose citizens were targeted: the British, the Americans, and the Israelis. So there is no question of India cooking up cases as some people are given to making. And much of the evidence you’ll find that is coming out of Washington, the evidence of ISI involvement in the attack on our embassy in Kabul came out from Washington and from Kabul, not from Delhi.

On the Lashkar and the groups involved themselves, I will just say this: we are constantly told what is the evidence. When we give evidence about the Jaish-e-Mohammed attacking our parliament on December 13, 2001, there were flat denials. Yet on March 6, 2004, General Javed Ashraf Qazi, former director general of the ISI, then Pakistan’s minister for railways, said the following — and I quote him in Pakistan’s Parliament, and he said, we must admit that the Jaish-e-Mohammed has been involved in the killing of thousands of innocent Kashmiris, the attack on the Indian Parliament, the murder of Daniel Pearl, and an attempt to assassinate General Musharraf. So I don’t know what further evidence we can provide for Maulana Masood Azhar and others to be prosecuted when Pakistan’s former ISI chief makes this solemn assurance in the floor of Pakistan’s Parliament and General Qazi is still a serving senator.

Similarly, in the case of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, I don’t know what evidence we should provide, because it’s all there in Pakistan. Shortly after the attack on the Red Fort in Delhi where civilians were killed, Hafeez Mohammed Saeed went in public in a meeting at which Maulana Masood Azhar and Qazi Husain Ahmed were present and acknowledged it very proudly that he had planted the Pakistani flag on the Red Fort, which was the ruling place of the country’s past Muslim rulers. So what more evidence do we need to provide? Anybody who reads the Da’wa magazine brought out by the Lashkar-e-Taiba, I think on a fortnightly basis, will find all the evidence that is needed in that magazine.

And finally, on the Lashkar itself, I would conclude by what Mr. Husain Haqqani, Pakistan’s present ambassador to the United States, wrote in an article called, “The Ideologies of South Asian Jihad and Jihadi Groups.” And he says there that the Lashkar-e-Taiba has adopted a maximalist agent for global — agenda for global jihad. The elite or the army of the pure, he said, is backed by Saudi money and protected by Pakistani intelligence services. This is not an Indian — this is Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States. So I don’t think that there is any further evidence.

My own view is we are keeping a close watch on what is happening, the arrests which are said to have been made, but are then denied. And ultimately, I think we will have to — there can be no compromise on one thing: the infrastructure of terrorism, which includes the Jaish-e-Mohammed, the Lashkar-e-Taiba, whatever, the Jaish-e-Mohammed assumes a new name, the Lashkar-e-Taiba assumes a new name, and the United Jihad Council, they will have to be shut down irrevocably, if necessary mandated under U.N. Security Council Resolution 1373.

And then, we can go back to a very positive process, which we are engaged in, where we had met substantial progress, in fact even on nuclear confidence building measures, we had agreed in 2004 that our respective nuclear arsenals constitute a force for strategic stability, especially after the doctrine was spread out by General Kiyani. So there is a huge scope for getting back to a normal relationship. But we aren’t going to accept any more Mumbais. Thank you.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123068308893944123.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Pakistan’s FIRST NOBLE PRIZE WINNER was equally humiliated by pakistani govt. and by ordinary pakistanis.

His only “crime” was that he was a AHAMADI.

You attack and badmouth your own countrymen WHO ARE PERFECTLY HONOURABLE PEOPLE.

You say:

”like those Indian agents like Parvez Hoodwink-boy, Anathema Jahangir and Ahmed Rashid. Such people should be sent packing to their real homes: India”””

Spot THE DIFFERENCE………

Nobody in INDIA calls ARUNDHATI ROY……..a pakistani agent……………….

Nobody in INDIA calls SWAMINATHAN IYER……..a pakistani agent……………….

You FIT THE BILL of a perfect brain dead mullah stereotype..

Dont forget YOU ARE A TYPICAL MULLAH STEREOTYPE.

You play the MUSLIM VICTIM role to perfection.

You blame all your troubles on INDIA……….

So typical of BRAIN DEAD MULLAH.

Please substitute # 27 above as under:

There are about one hundred dissident and separatist groups pitched against the central oppressive regime of India and its over centralisation. They are up in their arms for their well sought Independence. The disintegration of India is eminent; …its cracks are showing.

Although a comparatively moderate government of Congress is in power in India but BJP which is— not just opposition in parliament but is an arch rival of Congress also. They are the war mongers waiting in the wings with their despotic aim; [1] not only to keep Indian masses fully capitulated and subjugated but reportedly they have also joined hands with U.S. to act as her new Proxy in region and to jointly expand their evil designs further– beyond the Indian borders.

The list of about hundred dissident and separatist group of India is given here. (Please look for link in subsequent comment.) In the presence of these hostile groups; why India needs to look any where else for subversive action such as Mumbai massacre? Do you think these groups are gone impotent that they are not capable to plan and execute such like operations? The urge of Independece from an oppressive regime like India; mountains can be moved…!

Supposedly if these ten Pakistani can carry out such a fool proof and a successful massacre on such a scale and put the entire India on hold; then better submit at the doors of Pakistan because; when their Army will moves in…. India will just melt away.
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They say: Do not stretch your garbs of piety too much. Look at your own apparels; they are totally blackened and are full of holes.

[1] i.e. after winning the next Indian general Elections in may 2009.

CORRECTION

Sorry; Kumar. It is Holiday season here; I was on move; a error occured during transit and draft was sent up as comment at # 27 above. Please find the actual comment below.

I appologise for inconvinience.

Thanks

I bear repeating here that there are about 100 Indian separatist dissident group pitched against the oppressive regime policies and Central control of its government. They are fighting for their freedom and disintegration of India is but eminent. Cracks are showing. Reportedly the Hindu terror groups have very successfully infiltrated the armed forces. There are many a training camps being run by the serving as well as retired Army officers. There are also reports that Indian Nuclear are very much in the reach of these terror groups. Presently the Indian Nuclear assts have been placed as the most dangerous in the world.

It is always easy to make a scapegoat of Pakistan and point a finger to some of the old defunct groups are being maligned for this. It is a willfully practice adopted by the Indian government to blame Pakistan which serves them in the field of law and order situation in the country and to escape any communal riots but this may also gives a good leverage to the separatist groups to breed and carry out their subversive activities more freely.

Here is along list of some 100 Separatist and dissident groups;
Hindu Terror Groups
1. Shiv Sena – Army of Shiva
2. Bajrang Dal
3. Durga Vahini-Women militants
4. BJP terror group
5. A ragtag, government-armed Hindu militant groups have been raised in Kashmir and northern India during this decade.

Indian Occupied Kashmir
1. Hizbul Mujahideen
2. Harkat-ul-Ansar or Harkat-ul-Jehad-e-Islami
3. Lashkar-e-Toiba
4. Jaish-e-MohammadMujahideen E-Tanzeem
5. Jammu & KashmirLiberation Front
6. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
7. Al Badr
8. Dukhtaran-e-Millat
9. Al Barq
10. Al Jehad
11. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
12. Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army
13. People’s League
14. Muslim JanbazForce
15. Kashmir Jehad Force
16. Al JehadForce (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir
17. Jehad Force
18. Al Umar Mujahideen
19. Mahaz-e-Azadi
20. Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba
21. Jammu & Kashmir StudentsLiebration Front
22. Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen
23. Islamic Students League
24. Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir
25. Mutahida Jehad Council
26. Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria
27. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
28. Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters
29. Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami
30. Therik-ul-Mujahideen
31. Muslim Mujahideen
32. Al MujahidForce
33. Tehrik-e-Jehad
34. Islami Inquilabi Mahaz

ASSAM
1. Bodo Liberation Tigers (BLT)
2. Dima Halom Daogah (DHD)
3. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
4. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
5. Koch-RajbongshiLiberation Organisation (KRLO)
6. Adivasi Cobra Force(ACF)
7. Karbi People’s Front(KPF)
8. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
9. Bircha Commando Force(BCF)
10. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
11. Adivasi Security Force(ASF)
12. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
13. Gorkha Tiger Force(GTF)
14. Barak Valley YouthLiberation Front (BVYLF)
15. Muslim United LiberationTigers of Assam (MULTA)
16. Muslim United LiberationFront of Assam (MULFA)
17. Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
18. United Liberation Militia ofAssam (ULMA)
19. Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
20. Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
21. Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
22. Muslim Security Force (MSF)
23. Islamic SevakSangh (ISS)
24. Islamic United ReformationProtest of India (IURPI)
25. United Muslim LiberationFront of Assam (UMLFA)
26. Revolutionary MuslimCommandos (RMC)
27. Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
28. People’s UnitedLiberation Front (PULF)
29. Adam Sena(AS)
30. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
31. Harkat-ul-Jehad

NAGALAND
1. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Isak-Muivah)– NSCN(IM)
2. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Khaplang)– NSCN (K)
3. Naga NationalCouncil (Adino) – NNC (Adino)
4. Tripura Liberation OrganisationFront (TLOF)
5. United Bengali LiberationFront (UBLF)
6. Tripura TribalVolunteer Force (TTVF)
7. Tripura Armed TribalCommando Force (TATCF)
8. Tripura TribalDemocratic Force (TTDF)
9. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
10. Tripura LiberationForce (TLF)
11. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
12. All TripuraVolunteer Force (ATVF)
13. Tribal Commando Force (TCF)
14. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
15. All TripuraBharat Suraksha Force(ATBSF)
16. Tripura Tribal ActionCommittee Force (TTACF)
17. Socialist Democratic Frontof Tripura (SDFT)
18. All TripuraNational Force (ATNF)
19. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
20. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
21. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)

Meghalaya
1. Hynniewtrep NationalLiberation Council (HNLC)
2. Achik NationalVolunteer Council (ANVC)
3. People’s LiberationFront of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
4. Left-wing Extremists
5. People’s Guerrilla Army