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		<title>By: Canadian Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/even-china-backed-ban-on-jamaat-ud-dawa-diplomacy-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-1171631</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a retort to SINO
#11

Its amazing your False Indian Hindu rhetoric , how easily you forget 700 years of Islamic civilization that taught Indians the tolerance and compassion of Islam. 
IS THIS THE DENIAL you are writing about? your own inferiority complex perhaps? Thats why you choose a Western writer to attempt a feeble and ignorant atempt at defaming Islamic countries?
Pakistan has no complex it is a homeland for MUSLIMS. period. Be they American, Afghan or Indian Muslims.
Many Hindus converted to Islam to escape the biased and prejudicial  Hindu caste system.

Which to this day exists, I personally being a Muslim was enraged when i went to a  Hindu friends house to eat and he asked if I was sure if I wanted to eat with him? i looked bewildered and asked "WHY'? well we are "untouchables" the Hindu replied
I said buddy, I have no clue what you are talking about?  I Am a Muslim i cannot eat pork or anything unIslamic thats al. I have no clue what you INDIANS are taught but forget about those ingnorant people and lets eat. 

SEE quoting your own Hindu leader Gandhi "an eye for an eye would make the whole world blind"
so stop you prejudices and Hate fix your own country, 
do YOU know HALF OF THE WORLDS impoverished live in India ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a retort to SINO<br />
#11</p>
<p>Its amazing your False Indian Hindu rhetoric , how easily you forget 700 years of Islamic civilization that taught Indians the tolerance and compassion of Islam.<br />
IS THIS THE DENIAL you are writing about? your own inferiority complex perhaps? Thats why you choose a Western writer to attempt a feeble and ignorant atempt at defaming Islamic countries?<br />
Pakistan has no complex it is a homeland for MUSLIMS. period. Be they American, Afghan or Indian Muslims.<br />
Many Hindus converted to Islam to escape the biased and prejudicial  Hindu caste system.</p>
<p>Which to this day exists, I personally being a Muslim was enraged when i went to a  Hindu friends house to eat and he asked if I was sure if I wanted to eat with him? i looked bewildered and asked &#8220;WHY&#8217;? well we are &#8220;untouchables&#8221; the Hindu replied<br />
I said buddy, I have no clue what you are talking about?  I Am a Muslim i cannot eat pork or anything unIslamic thats al. I have no clue what you INDIANS are taught but forget about those ingnorant people and lets eat. </p>
<p>SEE quoting your own Hindu leader Gandhi &#8220;an eye for an eye would make the whole world blind&#8221;<br />
so stop you prejudices and Hate fix your own country,<br />
do YOU know HALF OF THE WORLDS impoverished live in India ?</p>
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		<title>By: Zardari says Pak </title>
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		<dc:creator>Zardari says Pak </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Another Indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is now quickly learning about the dangers of associating with Pakistan.  China has thrice blocked similar attempts to ban Jamaat ul Daawa, a front for Lashkar-e-Toiba, as a global terrorist organisation, by wielding its veto right.  By supporting the UNSC move this time around, China is not only distancing herself from Pakistan, but announcing to the international community that it believes Pakistan is a rotten fruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is now quickly learning about the dangers of associating with Pakistan.  China has thrice blocked similar attempts to ban Jamaat ul Daawa, a front for Lashkar-e-Toiba, as a global terrorist organisation, by wielding its veto right.  By supporting the UNSC move this time around, China is not only distancing herself from Pakistan, but announcing to the international community that it believes Pakistan is a rotten fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys understand one thing, be it US or China or for that matter your so called Friends of Pakistan, they will always try to use the other for their own benefit.

As early as Pakistan can learn this it will be good for you.

Wake up and start think for development of your country rather than wasting time of these kinds of blogs and hate for other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys understand one thing, be it US or China or for that matter your so called Friends of Pakistan, they will always try to use the other for their own benefit.</p>
<p>As early as Pakistan can learn this it will be good for you.</p>
<p>Wake up and start think for development of your country rather than wasting time of these kinds of blogs and hate for other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: pravar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/even-china-backed-ban-on-jamaat-ud-dawa-diplomacy-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-137009</link>
		<dc:creator>pravar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Sajjad
I had expected a vehement response on my post but was pleasantly surprised to see a saner tone. You see that is what happens when we get prejudiced-we think general population of two countries is also out to get each other. Whereas the fact is that everyone wants dignity, decent living conditions and to achieve something higher in life. And why should you say "...in the same way when anyone esp. muslims are tortured , it pains us or atleast it pains me.."? Every senseless death should pain you, not just a Muslim's. 

I feel like we had an opportunity to be friendly nations, but gave it away due to historical missteps.

No Indian worth his salt denies Gujarat massacre were shameful events- real humiliation to our basic core of society (that everyone has a shot at opportunity irrespective of religion). But it is unfair to keep referring to that and use that by hot headed people to instigate uneducated youth and indoctrinate them for an endless cycle of reaction/counter reaction(including the likes of Mr Teeth above espousing some puzzling hypothesis). Recall the Gujarat episode was ONE incident, may be a few more, but look at it in context of several hundred other undesirable incidents that take place and some of them linked to Jihadis. 
And did Indian intelligentsia not rise up against Gujarat shame? Some posters on these blogs keep  denying the origin of Mumbai attacks to Pakistan trained elements, and saying that Samjhauta blast was handiwork of  extremist Hindu elements. But they forget that it is this country's police and legal framework that exposed it and is working to hand out appropriate justice in court of law. Could such vigorous pursuit have been possible in a authoritarian/biased state?

This self reflection and willingness to tame extremist elements is unfortunately what we Indians are not seeing in Pakistan! And as Indians grow more frustrated, even home grown incidents/provocations come to focus the fury on past grievances with Pakistan(remember, with the Pak govt, NOT with Pak people-who people in India have so much in common with)

I feel when we all feel violence and intolerance is a common enemy, it will be a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Sajjad<br />
I had expected a vehement response on my post but was pleasantly surprised to see a saner tone. You see that is what happens when we get prejudiced-we think general population of two countries is also out to get each other. Whereas the fact is that everyone wants dignity, decent living conditions and to achieve something higher in life. And why should you say &#8220;&#8230;in the same way when anyone esp. muslims are tortured , it pains us or atleast it pains me..&#8221;? Every senseless death should pain you, not just a Muslim&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I feel like we had an opportunity to be friendly nations, but gave it away due to historical missteps.</p>
<p>No Indian worth his salt denies Gujarat massacre were shameful events- real humiliation to our basic core of society (that everyone has a shot at opportunity irrespective of religion). But it is unfair to keep referring to that and use that by hot headed people to instigate uneducated youth and indoctrinate them for an endless cycle of reaction/counter reaction(including the likes of Mr Teeth above espousing some puzzling hypothesis). Recall the Gujarat episode was ONE incident, may be a few more, but look at it in context of several hundred other undesirable incidents that take place and some of them linked to Jihadis.<br />
And did Indian intelligentsia not rise up against Gujarat shame? Some posters on these blogs keep  denying the origin of Mumbai attacks to Pakistan trained elements, and saying that Samjhauta blast was handiwork of  extremist Hindu elements. But they forget that it is this country&#8217;s police and legal framework that exposed it and is working to hand out appropriate justice in court of law. Could such vigorous pursuit have been possible in a authoritarian/biased state?</p>
<p>This self reflection and willingness to tame extremist elements is unfortunately what we Indians are not seeing in Pakistan! And as Indians grow more frustrated, even home grown incidents/provocations come to focus the fury on past grievances with Pakistan(remember, with the Pak govt, NOT with Pak people-who people in India have so much in common with)</p>
<p>I feel when we all feel violence and intolerance is a common enemy, it will be a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Teeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest threat to world is not taliban or afghanistan, the threat lies in Pakistan and PUNJAB is the biggest threat to world peace.

All the Bombay terrorists belongs to punjab and the people who made talibans finance and trained them all are punjabies.

Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar hameed Gul are all punjabies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest threat to world is not taliban or afghanistan, the threat lies in Pakistan and PUNJAB is the biggest threat to world peace.</p>
<p>All the Bombay terrorists belongs to punjab and the people who made talibans finance and trained them all are punjabies.</p>
<p>Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar hameed Gul are all punjabies</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Ali Sajjad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Ali Sajjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Pravar,

i know we pakistanis cannot claim that we have been treating minorities equally

like mentioned in comment # 13  it is the right of every person to decide what he wants

i know people who have struggled to migrate to USA UK Canada Australia New Zealand etc but when asked they always say apnay mulk ki baat hi aur hai (nothing compared to my own country) 

I am sure every person feels this way, Indian or Pakistani, 

about the reference you have made about my earlier remarks
let me clarify that I was only refering to the instances of mistreatment of muslims in india e.g gujrat 2002 and human rights voliation in kashmir, 

the media (any media, any country) is NEVER UNBIASED, thats the way they work,
when these incidents are blown out of proportion the terror organizations get in their act and start brainwashing innocent people in to becoming a terrorist

and that where the problem starts for both Pakistan and India

last not least what starts in India should finish in India

if an uneducated peson is denied a job it is his fault , but when a person is killed just for being himself , that is very painfull, 
in the same way when anyone esp. muslims are tortured , it pains us or atleast it pains me (i speak only for my self) 

it is then sometimes people tend to speak up 

Best Regards
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Pravar,</p>
<p>i know we pakistanis cannot claim that we have been treating minorities equally</p>
<p>like mentioned in comment # 13  it is the right of every person to decide what he wants</p>
<p>i know people who have struggled to migrate to USA UK Canada Australia New Zealand etc but when asked they always say apnay mulk ki baat hi aur hai (nothing compared to my own country) </p>
<p>I am sure every person feels this way, Indian or Pakistani, </p>
<p>about the reference you have made about my earlier remarks<br />
let me clarify that I was only refering to the instances of mistreatment of muslims in india e.g gujrat 2002 and human rights voliation in kashmir, </p>
<p>the media (any media, any country) is NEVER UNBIASED, thats the way they work,<br />
when these incidents are blown out of proportion the terror organizations get in their act and start brainwashing innocent people in to becoming a terrorist</p>
<p>and that where the problem starts for both Pakistan and India</p>
<p>last not least what starts in India should finish in India</p>
<p>if an uneducated peson is denied a job it is his fault , but when a person is killed just for being himself , that is very painfull,<br />
in the same way when anyone esp. muslims are tortured , it pains us or atleast it pains me (i speak only for my self) </p>
<p>it is then sometimes people tend to speak up </p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
 <img src='http://www.pkhope.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pravar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pravar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Muhammad Ali Sajjad and others,
This is a good healthy discussions where we must not just fall into patterns or draw undue inferences based on propaganda(both sides are guilty of that).

With reference to your "why such hostile attitude towrads the muslims brothers?(no intention of slinging mud at india here)", I have some observations. 

While of course in every country, especially one with India with huge population competing for limited resources including jobs, education opportunities, land etc; there are bound to be feelings of deprivation/injustice etc. But many of times it is due to sub continent's fatalistic attitude we are not in control of most of our destiny- of not taking responsibility of your own fate and work your way up-like some times Afro Americans in US keep complaining and want to live on govt handouts. 

Indian Govt is inf fact accused of being over appeasing  to backward sections/minorities by most of its other population that also wanted the same opportunities/jobs. Witness the caste/minority status based reservations in govt jobs- that has so left many educated youth NOT wanting these govt job anymore where merit is not key consideration. Any feelings of deprivation are not specific to any religion. Its just an unfortunate statistic-possibly for historical/poverty reasons, many Muslim parents did not believe in imparting modern education to their kids or had too many to properly take care of them-so few sections of that society grew up without access to proper education/jobs so the poverty level is higher among them. But go to cities, you would have many many Muslim colleagues in any company.

I have had many fabulous Muslim friends growing up, and whoever have studied and competed, have all done very well.  Ask most forward looking Indian Muslims -they will say they have got the best deal in the Muslim world. Ask them how many would like to go to Pakistan or Saudi-I am certain NONE would. I feel proud of them and they are proud of their country- of course they are pious Muslims, but know that THIS is their country. Don't you see India has a larger Muslim population than even Pakistan!!  If most of them were unhappy, they would have migrated. There are bound to be some radicals, but that has nothing to do with country's policies- you would still find those unhappy with Govt in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Malaysia etc. 

Here in India, they are part of an open society that even allows them to practice their own civic code. Isn't this the same country whose ex President is a respected Muslim, where Muslims study along side their Hindu brothers at IITs/IIMs and many successful execs in India's corporate world are Muslims? This is a country where they can open any business and worship anywhere. Can you tell me where in Saudi Arabia is a non-Muslim allowed to practice his faith in public or open a business without a local Arab partner? 

I request you to not consider Indian Muslims as something apart from rest of population- of course some extremist Hindu elements will see some Muslims with suspicion, just as some hardliner Muslims will always feel unhappy. But vast majority of Indians have co-existed happily for decades. What they are now standing up for is constant interference to their peace- if there are internal problems, give countrymen a chance to solve them-do not need unwanted violent expressions of support from outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Muhammad Ali Sajjad and others,<br />
This is a good healthy discussions where we must not just fall into patterns or draw undue inferences based on propaganda(both sides are guilty of that).</p>
<p>With reference to your &#8220;why such hostile attitude towrads the muslims brothers?(no intention of slinging mud at india here)&#8221;, I have some observations. </p>
<p>While of course in every country, especially one with India with huge population competing for limited resources including jobs, education opportunities, land etc; there are bound to be feelings of deprivation/injustice etc. But many of times it is due to sub continent&#8217;s fatalistic attitude we are not in control of most of our destiny- of not taking responsibility of your own fate and work your way up-like some times Afro Americans in US keep complaining and want to live on govt handouts. </p>
<p>Indian Govt is inf fact accused of being over appeasing  to backward sections/minorities by most of its other population that also wanted the same opportunities/jobs. Witness the caste/minority status based reservations in govt jobs- that has so left many educated youth NOT wanting these govt job anymore where merit is not key consideration. Any feelings of deprivation are not specific to any religion. Its just an unfortunate statistic-possibly for historical/poverty reasons, many Muslim parents did not believe in imparting modern education to their kids or had too many to properly take care of them-so few sections of that society grew up without access to proper education/jobs so the poverty level is higher among them. But go to cities, you would have many many Muslim colleagues in any company.</p>
<p>I have had many fabulous Muslim friends growing up, and whoever have studied and competed, have all done very well.  Ask most forward looking Indian Muslims -they will say they have got the best deal in the Muslim world. Ask them how many would like to go to Pakistan or Saudi-I am certain NONE would. I feel proud of them and they are proud of their country- of course they are pious Muslims, but know that THIS is their country. Don&#8217;t you see India has a larger Muslim population than even Pakistan!!  If most of them were unhappy, they would have migrated. There are bound to be some radicals, but that has nothing to do with country&#8217;s policies- you would still find those unhappy with Govt in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Malaysia etc. </p>
<p>Here in India, they are part of an open society that even allows them to practice their own civic code. Isn&#8217;t this the same country whose ex President is a respected Muslim, where Muslims study along side their Hindu brothers at IITs/IIMs and many successful execs in India&#8217;s corporate world are Muslims? This is a country where they can open any business and worship anywhere. Can you tell me where in Saudi Arabia is a non-Muslim allowed to practice his faith in public or open a business without a local Arab partner? </p>
<p>I request you to not consider Indian Muslims as something apart from rest of population- of course some extremist Hindu elements will see some Muslims with suspicion, just as some hardliner Muslims will always feel unhappy. But vast majority of Indians have co-existed happily for decades. What they are now standing up for is constant interference to their peace- if there are internal problems, give countrymen a chance to solve them-do not need unwanted violent expressions of support from outside.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All,

Terrorist are found in all the nations and the terrorist; they do not have any religion. Phenomenon of terror applied by them is just a tactic for their cowardice manoeuvres. It is applied by all the oppressors only to manipulate and subjugate the targeted people or nations. 

We need to under stand Islam. Islam has no place for any kind of terrorism. The first and foremost will be that we should bear in mind that Islam has not come as rival of other religions. Rather Islam confirms and validates the previous divinely teachings [1] and offers higher degree guidance in accordance with universal divinely plans of God Almighty which has been destined for the future of the mankind. Islam being the bearers of higher divinely education may not be against the old or basic and primary educations held by older denominations; rather they must go hand in hand and are interdependent in bringing the improvement and enlightenment in the respective societies. 

It has always been difficult for the humans to shed and shake the adopted myths and practices because humans by nature love and relish to remain restrained and bound by mysteries found in the older myths. And if these myths happen to be religious myths; it is more so difficult in leaving those self imposed mythical confinements. Myths are also influenced and rightly or wrongly, strongly guarded by the religious zealots, authorities and other groups having their vested interests. 

The preset mind and preconceived ideas so created n floated, keep us at distance. It keeps us bound in the old ruts and restricts us to think without prejudice.

Let’s build the bridges; not the barriers and find the common grounds to march toward the divinely enlightenment and for the betterment of the people of this universe.
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Love for all, Hatred for None

[1] Primary Teachings contained in the books of Torah, the Bible and other Holy Books</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>Terrorist are found in all the nations and the terrorist; they do not have any religion. Phenomenon of terror applied by them is just a tactic for their cowardice manoeuvres. It is applied by all the oppressors only to manipulate and subjugate the targeted people or nations. </p>
<p>We need to under stand Islam. Islam has no place for any kind of terrorism. The first and foremost will be that we should bear in mind that Islam has not come as rival of other religions. Rather Islam confirms and validates the previous divinely teachings [1] and offers higher degree guidance in accordance with universal divinely plans of God Almighty which has been destined for the future of the mankind. Islam being the bearers of higher divinely education may not be against the old or basic and primary educations held by older denominations; rather they must go hand in hand and are interdependent in bringing the improvement and enlightenment in the respective societies. </p>
<p>It has always been difficult for the humans to shed and shake the adopted myths and practices because humans by nature love and relish to remain restrained and bound by mysteries found in the older myths. And if these myths happen to be religious myths; it is more so difficult in leaving those self imposed mythical confinements. Myths are also influenced and rightly or wrongly, strongly guarded by the religious zealots, authorities and other groups having their vested interests. </p>
<p>The preset mind and preconceived ideas so created n floated, keep us at distance. It keeps us bound in the old ruts and restricts us to think without prejudice.</p>
<p>Let’s build the bridges; not the barriers and find the common grounds to march toward the divinely enlightenment and for the betterment of the people of this universe.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Love for all, Hatred for None</p>
<p>[1] Primary Teachings contained in the books of Torah, the Bible and other Holy Books</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Ali Sajjad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Ali Sajjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Aftab S. Alam

ref comment # 9   I am not quite getting the point 

as far as inter religious tolerance is concerned it is a very distant dream for pakistan
you mentioned ahmedis etc I have seen shias killing shias for a few rupees i have seen sunni killing sunnis on losing a bet , thats nothing i have seen people scolding/slapping their OWN parents just like in the west , i am not blaming the west they did not come to us begging to adopt their way of treating their parents, it is our own fault 

so the like water, tolerance is also very scarce in Pak

you are Absolutely right that it is the duty of muslims to spread "The Word" BUT NEVER, EVER BY FORCE,

quran say "Jahan tak naseehat kay nafay ho nay ki umeed ho naseehat kertay raho" translation/interpretion: keep on spreading the word (and STOP) when you feel it is not having a positive effect (on the person you are giving it to)
 
like i mentioned at the start if i have missed you point then please do elaborate

Best Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Aftab S. Alam</p>
<p>ref comment # 9   I am not quite getting the point </p>
<p>as far as inter religious tolerance is concerned it is a very distant dream for pakistan<br />
you mentioned ahmedis etc I have seen shias killing shias for a few rupees i have seen sunni killing sunnis on losing a bet , thats nothing i have seen people scolding/slapping their OWN parents just like in the west , i am not blaming the west they did not come to us begging to adopt their way of treating their parents, it is our own fault </p>
<p>so the like water, tolerance is also very scarce in Pak</p>
<p>you are Absolutely right that it is the duty of muslims to spread &#8220;The Word&#8221; BUT NEVER, EVER BY FORCE,</p>
<p>quran say &#8220;Jahan tak naseehat kay nafay ho nay ki umeed ho naseehat kertay raho&#8221; translation/interpretion: keep on spreading the word (and STOP) when you feel it is not having a positive effect (on the person you are giving it to)</p>
<p>like i mentioned at the start if i have missed you point then please do elaborate</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
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