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Do Zikris Perform hajj at Koh-e-Murad Turbat?

By Altaf Khan • Apr 18th, 2010 • Category: Misc • 29 Comments

Another heretical firqa is emerging fast in the hinterlands of Balochistan. They are called Zikris. They are quite old and their numbers are increasing in the ignorant and backwards areas if Lasbela, Gwadar and Turbat. They are also present in Karachi and Quetta and increasing their presence in the interior Sindh.

They are keeping a low profile in the fear of being declared as Non-Muslims. They call themselves an offshoot of Islam and term themselves as Muslims. Zikris, like mainstream Muslims, are religiously obligated to pray five times daily. However, the content of their prayers, which they call Zikr, differs from the orthodox practice of Salah. The Zikris, however, do not perform the standard Islamic Hajj, but instead make pilgrimage (ziyarat) to a shrine called Koh-e-Murad (Mountain of Desire), in Persian). The shrine is located in the city of Turbat in Balochistan. They do ziyarat on the 27th night of Ramadan.

This is quite alarming.

Everyone is free to practice his or her religion in Pakistan and Zikris can do so without any fear or pressure. But the thing is that they must not call themselves as Muslims, because they are not. This is highly injustified and condemnable thing by them to deviate from the Islamic pillars and even then declare themselves Muslims.

Religious leaders should peacefully talk to the elders of Zikris and they should convince them to stop hurting the emotions of Muslims.


 

 

 
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  1. Dear Altaf,

    Just a couple of minutes ago i read your comments regarding Zikri and Koh e Murad,
    When i start reading i was very happy to read but when i reached at the middle of the paragraph i was shocked to read that zikri never perform islamic huj, i don’t know why you asking that zikri did not perform huj at Makkah Shareef because being a zikri i am waiting to gain the opportunity of huj at Makkah Shareef.
    We (Zikris) take fastings in whole month of ramzan and 10 days in the month of Zilhajj.
    We pay zakat, we believe in Allah, we deny any shirk or kufar, many of us who has the capacity to pay performed huj. i don’t know why you are asking us non muslim.
    Before declaring some one as non muslim you should think about their faith and prayers. We perform prayers five times with ruku sajood and qayaams and a huge part of our prayers only contains “LAA ILA ILLALLA ”
    At the end my humble request for you to plz don’t post any comment like this one who hurt some one’s faith.

    Thanks and kind regards,

  2. Dear Altaf i read your reply to someones report and i am glad to find answers in your reply. as i was really looking for them on the net.
    Kindly let me know how and what do you pray in your 5 times prays and what is zikr and how do you perform that in zikr khana, you also mail me on contact_humza@hotmail.com
    thanks

  3. As Salaam Alaikum,
    Dear Friend, I am from India I would like to know more details about Zikris. If any zikri is there who can contact me on mail mmchand1@yahoo.com

  4. ASSALAMU ALLAIKUM! Dear altaf, I am mehdavi and am shocked to read your comment.. Your information is misleading for your kind information our faith of high dignity. And we pray 5 times prayer we oath mohammed is our messenger. We obey 5 pillars of islam and no doubt we desire doing hajj atleast one in life time. We follow sunnah of rasool e kareem sas. Wish if u could know the importance of zikr you might have never insult us and dare to call us kafir.further u can dialog at mehdavia@gmail.com.

  5. Dear Altaf

    It is your misleading,not researched, miss information article that you wrote about Zakri, Zakri Firqa is one of the Muslim Firqas and they are Muslim, they believed every aspect of Islam and the last Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), they pray five time a days and they just do ziarat in Koh e Murad as a sacred places in the World,every Zikri wishes to get a opportunity of Huj at Makkah Shareef. Many of them went to Makkah Shareef and ferformed Huj.

  6. we dn,t do huj in kohe murad it s our praying place we also go to makkah 4 huj we never say bad abt any one religion and must say bad abt our religion v also belive in allan and his messengers if any have question then cum in kohe murad

  7. As salaam o Alaikum……..

    I want know about ZIKRI’s. If there is any ZIKRI so, contact me with this email address.
    ZIKRI’s are Baloch but they are Non-muslims.

    shaf23_polite@yahoo.com

  8. If Zikri’s are muslim so why they don’t pray NAMAZ ????

    What is your kalma ????

  9. if zikri imam is or was mehdi then we have question that all writen in sahi bukhari or Muslim is wrong (which is not) as your zikri imam does not match the hadiss of our beloved prophet Muhammad PBUH . any one who claims to be imam mehdi and is not is a kafir like Mirza Gulam Qadyani.
    o muslime kindly read Quran and sahi hadess of Muhammad PBUH .

  10. can any zikri pls prof muslims that there is written in quran that imam mehdi or other shia imam as they believe are or any prof of imam yes there are hadess of Prophet Muhammad PBUH but not as shia or zikri say it is clear in Sahi Bukhari and other Hadess books that Imam Mhedi will come and fight dajal and kufar and Hzrat Eesa will come again as a muslim ummati and kill dajal , did any fack mhedi has done this kindly tell… pls all muslims and non muslims who call them self muslim read quran and ask Allah for to guide them and all of us …
    all those who claim to be mehdi are fack dajal and kafir like Mirza Gulam Ahmed Qadyani .

  11. i ahve seen his (10.farz on May 14th, 2012 :) same comments on a chritsian web site with name 30 days prayer .he is making Fitna in muslims be aware of him ,ask his real name befopre fight with each other

  12. It is your misleading,not researched, miss information article that you wrote about Zakri, Zakri Firqa is one of the Muslim Firqas and they are Muslim, they believed every aspect of Islam and the last Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), they pray five time a days and they just do ziarat in Koh e Murad as a sacred places in the World,every Zikri wishes to get a opportunity of Huj at Makkah Shareef. Many of them went to Makkah Shareef and ferformed Huj.

  13. there r 5 pillerz of Islam
    Kalma
    haj
    zakaat
    roza in mah e ramadan
    n namaz
    which of these r followed by zikriez no they r nt true muslimz tuba na oo zo billa 1st of all they hv changed kalma
    then they dnt perform namaz
    they sont fast in thw month of ramadan
    zaakat they dnt concider it must
    n there haj they say kohe muraad iz the place of haj for them i hv visited there n kno a lot abt zikris in islam a womwn cannot do immamat n in zikris a women do immamat in between men na mwhram they tawaff around kohey muraad etc etc
    moral oz tht zikrizz r nt muslimzzzz they should b thrown out n should nt call tjem muslims

  14. i hv been there in the month of ramadan n hv seen the shirkzz wid my open eyez
    even educated person in them r fully mentely jahill hv seen women kissing the bak of tje handz of their so called wajaz wich is really gunnah to bow head in front of a man kiss the bk of his hand press eys on their handz n then they use to gv them shabashi wah ufff a lot of jahalat a lot of blunderzzz
    all the ladies n men use to b together chogaan iz thz islaam teaches us no the women should do hijaab from namehram n in zikriez qomen r kissing the handz of namehram wajaz so there iz a oot to share ba cant b . . . i Allah allow me to kill i will kill the kalma changerz

  15. plz zikrio 5waqt ka naaaz pro ..or makkah midina mai hajj krro,,,ye koh e murad mai kuch nai hy…plz muslman o jao ,,,,verna ap log kafar o..

  16. meer Baloch , waheed baloch aur un tamam log jo kud ko muslim aur zekriun ko kafaer keh rahy hain .. kia tum log ye bata sakty ho k kaisy muslman ho tum log ? ks ny kaha zkri PHBH ko nahi manty ? ks ny kaha wo haj nahi jaty ? aur ramzan mein roza nahi rakty ? kia muslman yahi pakistani log ho ? kia yahi islam hy jo ap logun ny apna raka hy ? islam kia cheez hy kbi fursat mein quran pak ko sahi sy par kar us py hamal karo , kud ko islam k dawedar kehny waly , quran pak mein arshad hy k jpo log zulm k kelaf kary nahi hoty wo hum mein sy nahi , apny haq ki katir laro , jo sachy muslman hain wo kbi tahsub nahi karty , hume fakar hy s bat py k hum log kam az kam tahsub nahi karty , islam ka nam kbi use nahi karty , kia kar ho tum pakistani log ? sirf islam ka nam use kar rahy ho . hum jo hain hum janen aur khuda jany , ap log apny eman k jwabdeh ho aur hum apny , sirf 5 waqt k numaz parny sy tum log muslam nahi ban jaty , jo sahi manun mein muslman hain wo quran pak ko par kar us par hamal karty hain . na k ghum pher kar tahsub karty hain aur na e gareeb aur masoom logun ka qatal a aam karty hain , har koi apna jwab deh kud hain , we love Allah & his last messenger , leken hum nafrat karty hain un logun sy jo tahsub karty hain aur islam ka nam use karty hain , islam nam hy aman , mohbat aur bhai chary ka, kahan hy aman? mohbat? bhai chara ? khuda ky wasty islam ka nam galat istmal hargez na karo wagarna qyamat kay din hazab sy do cahr huna pary ga.

  17. AOA to every Muslim only not Non-muslim. Iheared about zikris n Turbat just a few days ago n was confused that how too much people n area of pakistan is covered by zikrisssssssss? they have changed Kalma(na-oozu billah), include Mahdi rasoolullah. They do fasting only 06days n perform Ziarat(hajj) at turbat on 27th of ramadan, too much enjoy on 10th of Muharram with a lot of music but still they r muslims?????????????????? In 80ssssss Zia-ul-haq tried / planned to destroy their sherine in turbat but failed?????????

    plz answer me correct if any body know about them in actual, so that misconception and confusion may finished……. Allah ta-aal puri Ummat-e-muslima ko hidayat ataa farmai n apney hifz-o-amaan mn rakhay, aameen.

  18. Zikri are true and very pure muslims. Zikri bro and sis aap log kuch na kahen pls, Har achon par logon ko ghusa aata hay, let them say whatever they want.. Kisi ko bura kehne se log bura nahi ho jata.

    ZIKR-E-ELAHI
    رَبَّنَا ظَلَمْنَآ اَنْفُسَنَا وَإِنْ لَمْ تَغْفِرْ لَنَا وَتَرْحَمْنَا لَنَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْخٰسِرِينَ (Dua of Hazrat Adam A.S)
    اے ہمارے رب! ہم نے اپنا بڑا نقصان کیا اور اگر تو ہماری مغفرت نہ کرے گا اور ہم پر رحم نہ کرے گا تو واقعی ہم نقصان پانے والوں میں سے ہو جائیں گے۔
    Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves, and if you do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be amongst the losers. (Al-A’raf:23)

    رَبَّنَا لاَ تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِن نَّسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى
    [البقرة :286]
    “Our Lord! do not punish us if we forget or make mistake; Our Lord! do not lay on us a burden as Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord! do not impose upon us that which we have not the strength to bear; and pardon us and grant us protection and have mercy on us, Thou art our Patron, so help us against the unbelieving people.” (2:286)

    رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لاَ طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَا أَنتَ مَوْلاَنَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ
    [البقرة :286]
    Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; Help us against those who stand against faith
    [2:286]

    رَّبَّنَا إِنَّنَا سَمِعْنَا مُنَادِيًا يُنَادِي لِلإِيمَانِ أَنْ آمِنُواْ بِرَبِّكُمْ فَآمَنَّا
    [آل عمران :193]
    Our Lord! We have heard the call of one calling (Us) to Faith, ‘Believe ye in the Lord,’ and we have believed.
    [3:193]

    آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا وَسِعْتَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ رَّحْمَةً وَعِلْمًا فَاغْفِرْ لِلَّذِينَ تَابُوا وَاتَّبَعُوا سَبِيلَكَ وَقِهِمْ عَذَابَ الْجَحِيمِ
    [غافر :7]
    Our Lord! Thy Reach is over all things, in Mercy and Knowledge. Forgive, then, those who turn in Repentance, and follow Thy Path; and preserve them from the Penalty of the Blazing Fire!
    [40:7]

    اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي ظَلَمْتُ نَفْسِي ظُلْماً كَثِيراً إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ الْغَفُورُ الرَّحِيمُ
    O Allah, I have been very unjust to myself and no one grants pardon against sin but You, therefore forgive me with Your forgiveness and have mercy on me. Surely, You are the forgiver, the Merciful.

    رَبَّنَا وَاجْعَلْنَا مُسْلِمَيْنِ لَكَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِنَا أُمَّةً مُّسْلِمَةً لَّكَ وَأَرِنَا مَنَاسِكَنَا وَتُبْ عَلَيْنَآ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ
    [البقرة :128]
    Our Lord! Make of us Muslims, bowing to Thy (Will), and of our progeny a people Muslim, bowing to Thy (will); and show us our place for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us (in Mercy); for Thou art the Oft-Returning, Most Merciful
    [2:128]

    ا وَآتِنَا مَا وَعَدتَّنَا عَلَى رُسُلِكَ وَلاَ تُخْزِنَا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ إِنَّكَ لاَ تُخْلِفُ الْمِيعَاد
    [3.آل عمران :194]
    Our Lord! Grant us what Thou didst promise unto us through Thine apostles, and save us from shame on the Day of Judgment: For Thou never breakest Thy promise
    [3:194]

    رَبَّنَا فَاغْفِرْ لَنَا ذُنُوبَنَا وَكَفِّرْ عَنَّا سَيِّئَاتِنَا وَتَوَفَّنَا مَعَ الأبْرَارِ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّا إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ السَّمِيعُ العَلِيمُ
    Our Lord! Forgive us our sins, blot out from us our iniquities, and take to Thyself our souls in the company of the righteous. Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-knowing
    [3:193]

    رَبَّنَا آتِنَا فِي الدُّنْيَا حَسَنَةً وَفِي الآخِرَةِ حَسَنَةً وَقِنَا عَذَابَ النَّارِ
    [البقرة :201]
    Our Lord! Grant us good in this world and good in the hereafter, and save us from the chastisement of the fire
    [2:201]

    And we RECITE 15 Times “LA ILAHA ILLALLAH لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ “ after each and every DUA written above.

    SUBHAAN`ALLAH
    goldenwordzzzz@gmail.com

  19. great moosa karim that like a honest muslim and also you are a great zikri

    all zikri proud of you dear

    keep continue preach

  20. assalam alikum…. muslim brothers and sisters…
    i have read all the comments done by some non-mehadavi/zikri peoples…..
    i want to ask them..please donot blame any firkha without knowing the fact.. and i appeal such persons to spend few days with them and know them in detail…please donot spread false stories against any firkha (for the god sake)… at last i will ask them one question how can any one declare a sect kafir when they perform all the five farz and believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammad (PBUH)….
    Allah hafiz

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