Khokar people in this unique concept of universe are continuously in a state of competing and carrying their soul a step ahead of each other may it be their life, living, concepts or belief.

Astonishingly every one is claiming a marginal edge over the other so to make his attachment more on the run of right destination and dimension than his competitor or counterpart.

I am amazed in spite of such even claim none is practicing the actual essence of their faith as practice.

Khokar! Who cares if you are Hindu, Muslim, Christian or ahmedi?

Do these religious bindings as practices are a hindrance or a derogatory factor to tag and disown humanity or followers of practice so to legalize occupation, aggression and criminal offence to disembark from living as peasant of almighty.

People must need to understand that they got to build a qualitative excellence as sanctity of god by virtue of which he grants every thing to every one ,whether someone denote or express him as animal ,or belief as something in terms of human and progeny.

Every body has his tenure and mind as interpreter which is suppose to perceive and legitimately accept what has been his right after his evaluation as practice.

In my opinion if we can legitimately accept this notion of actual and virtual reality we could breach the genuine threat of reservation of angels that this creature would create a menace in the universe.

Dictation in faith and practices are never acceptable as long as acceptance becomes the faith.

If written verses could have successfully breached and accomplished the concept of god and likes and dislikes, no messengers could have access the universe with his arrival.

The life of holy prophet was in fact the actual verses of qoran in practical format so to enlighten the concept and greatness of his creation as practices within reach.

Khokar I am not at all a student of comparative studies on religion neither I know much about Islam as advance knowledge and ahmedis as basic knowledge.

What I know is every religion has premises as basic entrance point of belief and faith and obligatory essentials in the form of dictatorial slogan based on their level of authenticity and credibility. Such basics though are logical as far as interpretation is concerned but still has a static portfolio that depends specifically on acceptance as prime necessity.

Under such obligations of inference based obligation your school of thought has deviated theme of basic difference of belief which unanimously been cradle off from the port of Islam by almost every conceptual school of practice.

Though you have right to express your logical bearing and slogan of practice but initiating the same theme which is the point of repercussion as litigation would always breach the deterrence factor thereby resulting into unmasked ,digging and irrational declarations hence diffusing the element of sanity and survival as peace.

I hope we can have too much thoughts and definite ideas so to enhance our subject of living and life in a spacious and more profound way by your presence on the port as I have a very respectable position for you as scholar of your belief and practice. Regards

“For four days we have deliberated here”.

“For four days security council has procrastinated”.

“Why”?

“Because object was for Dacca to fall”, “that was the object”.

“It was quite clear to me from the beginning”.

Infact I know the pre define resultant outcome of every such debate that are based on religious slogans and have same predetermine fate.

Frankly, when the discussion took the flight towards the school of thought, I boarded out, as the theme of the subject was lost therein.

Khokar cant you and others as well, give us some logical debate other than your concepts that always take off from the parameters of religion and bearing.

Please come out of this domain of self declared unanimous community as goons of the truth.

No body is interested to hear or read your self short sighted views as interpretation and preaches.

You see sir we expect few genuine comments from you and others as part of knowledge and to enhance our vision as regard to horizon.

Please revert to few previous topics and its discussion, you will only find baseless discussion without reasonable environment of requisite fruitless debate.

Please help us enlighten with your general visionary concepts based on humanity and we will appreciate the school and its followers.regards

Thank you;

We have listen to (I mean gone through) the view points of both sides; It seems that it may not be easy to reach to any conclusion; especially in the absence of our stomach which may digest the truth put up by other side; and where people may be reluctant to give an equal rights to other fellow human beings. The situation on ground is:

* Ab Kaheen Bolta naheen, Ghaib jo Kholta naheen
* Aisa agar koee Khuda Tum ney banna liya tou kiya

* Aaj ki hey jo karbala kal peh hey ous ka Faislaa
* Aaj he aap ney agar jashan manna liya tou kiya
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* Aaj yousaf peh agar waqat yeh laey hou tou kiya
* kal tumheen takhat bhi dou gay issi zindaani kou

Any how;

* Subah Khilnay ki hou ya shaam bikhar jane ki
* Hum neh khushboo hi kiya apnee praishani ko

There can’t be an agreement where both sides disagree. Allah the Mighty, The Wise has His say; Al-Shura Chapter 42 : Verse 115: “…..; Allah is our Lord and your Lord. For us is the reward of our works and for you the reward of your works. There is no quarrel between us and you. Allah will gather us together, and to Him is the return.’

So I think we should leave it here and attend to some more burning issues involving our nation on which we all agree; the well being, health, education, economy and prosperity of Pakistani people. The issues of safety and security of our country where many a sons of the soil are ready for forsaking their country for paltry gains and are wilfully playing in the hands of our enemies (treacherously) thus creating the dire volatile circumstances for people of Pakistan.

Once again: I must thank Dr Alshaer , Dr Raza Haider, Aftab S Alam, Saeed Khan Toronto and many other kind friends for their kind attention and that they bear me while reading the comments to know each others view points.

Thank you so much and I am obliged.

A Khokar

I appreciate your sincere input, thank you. I do not disagree with you that Ahmedis should be treated with respect and given rights to live in Pakistan. The Ahmedis must also learn to live as non-Muslims (for this is what they are based upon their teachings). Very few people are even aware of the reality of hardship the Ahmedis have endured in Pakistan due to biased reports on both sides of the fence.

Pakistan is a nation of many backgrounds and all must learn to live with each other. At the same time, minorities must also be respectful of the majority and not feel they are entitled to more rights than others. Having lived most of my life here in the West, I never make it an issue that I should be given more rights as a citizen than others. I have learned to be respectful of the majority and live without creating a drama. This in essence is the problem when minorities become the drama queens and create havoc.

Again, thank you for your input.

Regards

God knows best

Not that anything will make a difference but for you to now to attack Illias Sattar for leaving your cult in this way, does show that you are not able to face to the truth. If you really wish to face the challenge set by Mr. Sattar, please take him to court. He is willing to pay you money, if you do succeed. By this long winded reply here you are not sure if you can even win. So please keep the lies of your liar Ghulam Mirza Ahmed Qadiani and continue living in delusions.

I am finished with engaging you. It is useless, for God has closed your heart and you will never be able to see the truth.

Good day!

Ref # 44

sorry for few spelling mistakes.

Regards