Deterrence is the Answer
By A Khokar • Sep 2nd, 2008 • Category: Politics, Worth A Second Look • 54 CommentsWith the dawn of Islam in Arabia the parties affected the most, were the people of the books; the Jews, Christian and idolater pagan tribes. Jews and Christian; if they were the true God fearing people and believers in divinity of God, the prophets and prophesies specially foretold to them by Jesus (as); then they would have not hesitated to accept Muhammad (pbuh) as Prophet and Quran as the divine Book that he brought. But after the revelation of Quranic verses and when Word of God was spread; the problem arose was, that people of the book were finding Islam standing in their way as a challenge to their contrived Belief of more than one gods and other myths kept in high spin, granting the blown up exalted stations to Jesus as Divine God. Jesus was considered to be the only saviour of entire mankind.
But in the matter of unity of Divinity of God Almighty; we have got a jealous God and our God simply can’t bear that some one may comes up and put forward a claim to be worthy of worship beside Him. Almighty has created a ‘Touch Stone’ of Surah Akhlas for this purpose to be strictly adhered to. Quran says vide Surah Al-Ikhlas – chapter 112:-
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Mercif.
[112:1] Say ‘He is Allah, the One!
[112:2] Allah the Independent and Besought of all
[112:3] ‘He begets not, nor, is He begotten,
[112:4] And there is none like unto Him.
Any body who could qualify the above four criterions can ‘only’ be called God; and it is for sure that a humble soul like Jesus (as); he never claimed himself to be the person of that stature that he could even imagine himself to be a God. By simply trying to bring up Jesus, to consider him for any comparison with the criterions of ‘Touch Stone’ mentioned above; he may not even qualify on any account to be weighed and put on the ‘weighing pan’ of Surah Al-Ikhlas. He will easily be cast out on every single benchmark. Islam takes a serious view of various Myths being floated in Christianity for the acceptances of general masses to be incorrect and a false beliefs carved to influence the culture of the time, in order to secure a higher place for the religion in society and to fulfill the vested interest of concerned disciples and religious zealots. These myths are taken as the sacred stories believed to be the true by the people who connect deep attachment of religious and spiritual significance to it. Over the centuries these myths have taken roots in the masses where first hand commandment of God was totally absent in Christianity.
On the other hand all the teachings of Islam base on the Word of God delivered by the Holy Quran as a first hand speech from God. It does not need any hear says or other fables to support the narrations of its commandments; so myths do not find their way in or any encroachment in Islam. Islam finds that the myths created by the Christianity needs to be tackled or fought out to help relieve the affecties of web of contrived Christian Mythology. These deep routed myths may need a painstaking and strenuous efforts to eradicate them and thus relieve the people; of misconceptions step by step through logic and reasoning only and not through sword or the force that some may fear or like to think. The potential seen in the Muslims of breaking the Christian myths in the light of teachings of Quran has tended the oppressing enemy forces of Islam to carve the divisive, covetous policies in the Muslim world to undermine Islamic values and we find that Muslims remain the targets of oppression and subjugation even with in their own countries.
Currently Muslims are under going enormous restrictions to advance or excel in the worldly knowledge or technologies. muslims could relieve themselves and break the shackles of oppression only when they are able to acquire the knowledge and turn the tables over to their enemy by logic and reasoning. Muslim needs to acquire potent defensive arsenals with offensive capabilities and abilty to creat shock effects and deterrence in the heat of enemis and in battle fields. God Almighty warns and commands Muslims in Surah Anfal [8:60] ‘And make ready for them who fight you whatever you can, of armed force and of mounted pickets at the frontier, whereby you may frighten the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you know not, but Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah, it shall be paid back to you in full and you shall not be wronged.’ Under the Divine Command, ‘Deterrence’ is the answer which must be acquired at all costs by the Muslims. It is an ultimate weapon which guarantees the honour; it enables to guards the physical as well as ideological borders and keeps the oppressing enemies at bay.
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For: Muslim needs to acquire potent defensive arsenals with offensive capabilities and ability to create shock effects and deterrence in the heat of enemis and in battle fields.
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Thanks
A Khokar
“But in the matter of unity of Divinity of God Almighty; we have got a jealous God” << who says this?
When quoting the Quran, please also state which translation you are using. Your article is confusing and by no means, I say this out of disrespect. If you are trying to introduce your own beliefs (from the Ahmadiyya faith), it is okay but just make it clear and provide references.
First I need better understanding of the above quoted statement you made, before I engage further on giving comments on the article.
Thank you
Dr Alshaer,
May peace and Allah’s blessings be upon you. Thank you for the visit.
You are still on the old page and here a new chapter is opened. A new subject is put forward to discuss and to understand that how best we can achieve a stage where we could create enough of deterrence to keep our oppressors at the bay. And how to survive in the future and avoid the time when you and me will be standing facing the walls; Our hands up, legs sprawled and Yankee will be searching the clothes. Ladies are also checked for carrying grenade under their chests.
Any how the world jealous has been used as adjective with the view being ‘possessive’ and ‘territorial’.
No one may dare claim any part of His powers and his own territory. Allah said unto Abraham [2:124] “My covenant does not embrace the transgressors” and Allah very explicitly admonishes that:
[2:163] ‘And your God is One God; there is no God but He, the Gracious, the Merciful.’
[5:73] ‘They surely disbelieve who say, ‘Allah is the third of three;’ there is no god but the One God. And if they do not desist from what they say, a grievous punishment shall surely befall those of them that disbelieve.’
[6;19] ‘Say, ‘What thing is the weightiest in testimony.’ Say, ‘Allah is a Witness between me and you. And this Quran has been revealed to me so that with it I may warn you, as well as whomsoever it reaches, of the impending punishment. What! do you really bear witness that there are other gods besides Allah?’ Say, ‘I bear not witness thereto.’ Say, ‘He is the One God, and certainly I am innocent of that which you associate with Him.’
About disobedient Satan [7;12] ‘ God said, ‘What prevented thee from submitting when I commanded thee?’ He said, ‘I am better than he (Adam). Thou hast created me of fire while him hast thou created of clay.’[7:13]God said, ‘Then go down hence; it is not for thee to be arrogant here. Get out; thou art certainly of those who are abased.’[7:14]God said, ‘Thou art of those who are respited.’
[17:22] ‘So set up not another god with Allah lest thou sit down condemned and forsaken’.
[17:39]’These injunctions are part of that wisdom which thy Lord has revealed to thee. And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into Hell, condemned and rejected.’
Dr Alshaer there are some 252 verses of Quran lined up to explain but leave you with a verse from Al-Kahf Chapter [18;14] ‘And We strengthened their hearts when they stood up and said, ‘Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Never shall we call on any god beside Him; for if we did so, we would utter a preposterous thing’
Regards
Mr. A Khokar,
Peace be upon you as well. Thank you for the kind greeting.
God, cannot be a jealous God. God does not have qualities that we humans/jinns exhibit and I am astonished that you or any could think as such.
As I kindly asked you before, please provide reference to which translation you are using of the Quran.
And as to you stating:
“You are still on the old page and here a new chapter is opened”
Well, I will disappoint you and state that I am consistent and steadfast in my beliefs.
You further stated:
“A new subject is put forward to discuss and to understand that how best we can achieve a stage where we could create enough of deterrence to keep our oppressors at the bay. And how to survive in the future and avoid the time when you and me will be standing facing the walls; Our hands up, legs sprawled and Yankee will be searching the clothes. Ladies are also checked for carrying grenade under their chests.”
My dear Mr. Khokar, why would these Yankee’s be doing such a thing? These are just baseless arguments to instill fear.
This is why, I stated in my earlier post, that your article is confusing. I always appreciate your usage of words and you are indeed a master. Please stick to facts and not create conspiracies.
All you have to say that you are influenced from your Ahmadiiyya teachings, and these concepts come from such, and it will make having a discussion much easier with you. I will leave you with this verse from the Quran:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from Error; whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.”
Sura Al-Baqara verse 256, Translation from Abdullah Yusuf Ali
Regards
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/020771.php
As discussed earlier with the dawn of Islam the parties other than the Pagan tribes, which were affected the most, were the people of the books .i.e. Jews and Christian. If they would have been the God fearing and true believers in divinity and His prophets; there would have not hesitated to accept Muhammad (pbuh) as Prophet and Quran as the divine Book. The problem arose was that they found Islam standing there to challenge their not the Belief in God but the concocted myths that they have floated around the divinity as well the blown up exalted stations of Jesus considering him their divine God (naoz billah).
But in the matter of unity of God; we having here a jealous God and our God simply can’t bear that some one comes up (at some pretext ) and claims to be worthy of worship beside Him. Almighty has created a touch stone for this purpose; to be strictly adhere to it and in Surah Al-Ikhlas - chapter112 it says;-
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:1] Say ‘He is Allah, the One!
[112:2] Allah the Independent and Besought of all
[112:3] ‘He begets not, nor, is He begotten,
[112:3] And there is none like unto Him.
Any body who qualifies the above four criterions can be said as God only and for sure Jesus; a humble soul who never claimed to be a god also; is seen being thrown out of the weighing pan.
Where as Islam takes a serious view of Myths in Christianity which are thought to be incorrect and false belief influenced by the prevalent culture and vested interest of concerned disciples. These myths are taken as the sacred stories believed to be the true by the people having deep attachment of religious and spiritual significance to it. Over the centuries these myths have taken roots in the masses where first hand commandment of God was totally absent.
On the other hand Islam is a word of God and is a first hand speech from God. It does not need any hear says or other fables to support the narrations of its commandments; so myths do not find their way to attain any encroachment in Islam.
The myths created by the Christianity needs to be tackled or fought out and not the Christian or the true Christianity. The deep routed myths may take strenuous efforts to eradicate them and relieve the people of misconceptions through logic and reasoning and not through sword or force.
The potential seen in the Muslim of breaking the myths as per teaching of Quran has tended the oppressing enemy forces of Islam to carve the policies in Muslim countries that Muslims remain target of oppression and subjugation with in their own countries. They are under going enormous restriction to advance or excel in worldly knowledge or technology. They could relieve themselves and break the shackles of oppression only when they are able to obtain the potent defensive arsenals with offensive capabilities and deterrence. God Almighty warns and commands Muslims in Surah Anfal [8:60] ‘And make ready for them who fight you whatever you can of armed force and of mounted pickets at the frontier, whereby you may frighten the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you know not, but Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah, it shall be paid back to you in full and you shall not be wronged.’
Deterrence is the weapon which guarantees your honour; guards your physical as well as ideological borders and keeps your enemies at bay.
In the famous verse [9:29] “Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection”. Although this looks like a Standing Rule to conduct a war against the rival Jews or Christian but this verse has got few Arabic expressions which have their special meanings pertaining to a particular warring time. For instance ‘an Yadin’ means (1) willingly and in acknowledgement of superior power of Muslims (2) In ready money and not in the form of deferred payment (3) Considering it as a favour from Muslims; the particle ‘an’ meaning, on account of, and ‘Yad’ denoting power and favour (Lane). The verse refers to those People of the book who lived in Arabia at the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Like the idolaters they too had been actively hostile to Islam and had planned and plotted to exterminate it. Muslims were, therefore ordered to fight them unless they agreed to live as loyal and peaceful subjects. The Jizyah was a tax which these non-Muslims had to pay as free subjects of the Muslim State in return for the protection they enjoyed under it. It may be noted that as against Jizyah which was imposed on non-Muslims, a much heavier tax – Zakat was levied on the Muslims and non-believers were exempt. Thus the latter in a way fared better, for they had to pay a lighter tax and were also free from military duty.
The word ‘Saghirun’ expresses their subordinate political status; otherwise they enjoyed all social rights equally with Muslims. The idolaters of Arabia and Jews and Christians who lived in their neighbourhood were the principal adversaries of Islam. After having dealt with the believers relations with the People of the Book, the surah with this verse proceed to deal with especially their religious beliefs and doctrines.
Adabarez
Posted by: Adabarez [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 27, 2008 6:17 PM
Khokar, besides Islamic perspective and your Islamic version of verses in lieu of interpretation, I feel little discomfort in your logical version, of “acquired deterrence” though it’s a genuine conclusive requirement.
@Khokar “Muslim needs to acquire potent defensive arsenals with offensive capabilities and ability to create shock effects and deterrence in the heart of enemies and in battle fields.
‘Deterrence’ is the answer which must be acquired at all costs by the Muslims. It is an ultimate weapon which guarantees the honor; it enables to guards the physical as well as ideological borders and keeps the oppressing enemies at bay”.
Khokar! Why is it that after going through your abstract, I have a feel that perhaps you have wrong perception of this term “deterrence?”
Dear deterrence is a subjective term as perception or feel.
It’s a factor that creates unknown fear and anxiousness in perceiver, though in reality his interpretation as such can be 180o opposite.
In other words, it is a form of unknown fear of perceiver which is a calculated evaluation, after interpreting at his level, the capacity and means to take over, if at all, by the deterrent.
Under the define premises, this factor” deterrence” is dependent upon validated concepts of, element as power,worth,wealth,advancement,mode,method,means,measures,mass,manpower,magnitude and every such existing element which differentiate one with and over the other as quality in terms of existence as powerful.
Now if I conclusively put these prerequisites and obligatory elements so to create an essence of deterring factor, we as Muslims are almost devoid of every such basic requirement in terms of the factor and era.
Khokar the term has multiple tentacles in the form and format of grounds and potential reasons, as shapes.
One of the potential siblings as you have rightly pointed out do exist as arsenal, though acquired arsenals for ultimate deterrence, in the form of technology and power has the element of grant and choice as selectivity by the supplier, which always reflects and keep customer on the plateau of imbalance contest thereby declining the concept of deterrence.
Under the perspective calculation I don’t find this acquired power as a deterrence factor over the enemy.
Khokar acquired qualities or factors have limited life span in terms of advancement and warfare technology so to create deterrence factor.
Though wealth has built in power to culminate any desire but still it’s dependent upon supplies as desire.
Safe guard and acceptability as state and community by testimony of belief only will ultimately jeopardize the existence.
If we as Muslim want to create these factors as deterrence, so to keep from the dust and damp, we got to come out of our curtailed, self designed restrictions of separated entity of perceiving all ifs and buts within the practices of our ideology and principle, as practices are to run ones life according to his faith regardless of dictating faith to unconcerned.
Competing, the forum of global exhibition representation, thou should be, as per practice and belief, but criteria of excellence and work should express humanity at large.Regards
Saleem, thank you for sharing the article and link. So now it is clear these are words taken from some earlier piece posted on jihadwatch.com. My hope was the author would admit the source of the article (though he has twisted a few words around).
Thank you again. Now we know why Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was called a liar. Sadly, we do not see any different behavior from their believers today.
May Allah bless you Saleem for your effort to bring this forth.
Regards
You have the Nukes. Iran has none.
You are a bigger country that Iran
You are a major/Non NATO ally of USA while Iran is threatened by sanctions and armada of NATO
But why you still want deterrence and against whom?
What I find interesting is that this article was posted by the following title before:
“Islam Takes a Serious View of Myths in Christianity”
And for this audience on TPS, as “Deterrence is the answer”
Mr. Khokar, you need not respond to me. My little bit of advice to you is this, have Fear of Allah. This is the holy month of Ramadan and this is the last thing we need. You are doing no different than what Ghulam Mirza Ahmed did and he was proven to be a liar.
It is still not too late. Rethink of what you are doing and follow the Quran and Sunnah alone.
May God have Mercy on all of us, ameen.
Dear Saleem, Dr Al Shaer and friends,
Saleem, if you are the frequent visitor of Jihadwatch.Org then how you can miss the name of A Khokar. We must know that how Mr. Robert Spencer the director of Jihad watch, an arch rival of Islam is all out against Islam. He has written many books against Rassol e Karim (saw) including one which was supported by The Heritage Foundation; USA.; ‘Truth About Muhammad’.
Please also see Roboert Spencers cohorts ‘Frontpagemagazine.com’ pitched against Islam. You can also google me out as ‘a khokar’.
Just type the name of A Khokar on Jihad watch website and you will find how this A khokar has been conducting and defending Islamic Value till their panel had decided to Ban me that it was putting their anti Islam cause down.
Then for some time I have been working under Adabarez name to complete the open ends..
Please note that Adabarez is my own website with the name of Adab-Arz Blog which is not yet fully ready but you can go there and see it for your self. Link is here.
http://www.adab-arz.co.uk/
Likhee neheen who baat;ous ki naheen jo baat
With best of Regards
Dear A Khokar,
thanks for clearing your point. Sure, I will see your blog soon too. I have no problem with your posts. I simply wanted to clear the point and you did it. thanks.
No offence
Dear Friends,
Just to help you out Jihad Watch and some other links are given here:
A Khokar on Jihad Watch:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=013255222075609514560%3Ayu16amghxpi&q=A+Khokar
A Khokar when was banned from Jihadwatch.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=013255222075609514560%3Ayu16amghxpi&q=A+Khokar+Banned&sa=Search
A Khokar working as Adabarez to complete the open ended discussions.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=013255222075609514560%3Ayu16amghxpi&q=adabarez
A khokar or a khokar on google:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=a+khokar&meta=
Daily Star Lebanon forum
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=A+khokar+daily+star+lebanon&meta=
Dear A Khokar,
I do appreciate you admitting that you and Adabarez are one in the same. Why post the article with two different titles? I do understand the audience is different but when situations like this arise, you can can also understand why some of us question your intent?
You are my elder, no matter of your beliefs, I still will continue to pray for you that God opens your heart to the truth. Please just be clear and that is all I ask.
Regards
All is well that ends well.
Dr Alshaer,
I do write a lot in many other magazines, news papers and on anti Islamic website. Frankly speaking; it never clicked that it has gone here earlier also but I think, it was with some added ammo.
Any how even its repeat has not been bad either. You have come to know many more things to day.
Dear Dr Raza Haider,
Ref #6
I do appreciate your effort to give a detailed explanation of the word; Deterrence.
But Doctor Sahib every body is not Dr Raza Haider. You have to use the common currency coins for general acceptance as in the media.
Any how deterrence word was used here to coin the common term and general theory in vague term which has its history developed earlier as a military strategy during Cold War. It is especially relevant with regard to the use of nuclear weapons, and figures prominently on current United States foreign policy regarding the development of nuclear technology in North Korea and Iran.
The term is also used more generally to refer to a strategy in any field of potential conflict of being prepared to inflict unacceptable damage on an aggressor, and making sure the potential aggressor is aware of the risk so that he refrains from aggression.
You are so very true sir! Every body is not dr RazaHaider, same as khokar is khokar and we will never find khokar after kho kar. Please don’t get annoyed I am trying to have a bit friendly liberty to teases u.
Khokar please take my words, “I like you very much” and if I would have a chance to pick some one from the forum for friendship I will pick you, Saleem, kabir das and aftab.
This not because, you people are some sort of big bulls but because of your different visionary aspects as separate mind with built-in tendencies to litigate and perceive thing according to their own desire and thoughts.
Though you being a trained religious scholar indulge discussion in religious parameters as well but still I see a gentle man through the depth of domain with visionary thinking as per requirement of current time and place.
Please do honor with your arrival, if once in our city. It would be an honor to meet you.
My dear this is not very easy to close the discussion by explaining few words with reference to the contest and rest assure as it would be engulf and assimilated by the other.
Nobody is insane or irrational on the desk that he would not understand the usage of the word with the contest and theme.
I have never litigated the word deterrence I have sued the word “acquired deterrence” in conclusion and its implication with wrong perspective vision of the contest.
If I believe you what you reverted with deterrence in terms of nuclear ability, we as, Pakistani nation, is already a power in the contest of nuclear ability and there is no need for further contest in terms of deterrence as its an expected outcome of such ability.
@Khokar “You have to use the common currency coins for general acceptance as in the media”.
Wrong! Khokar! Khokar in above paras as comment your article from comment no 2 went in to similar litigation of wrong interpretation or probably some affairs in relation to school of thoughts.
As your version of definition, was probably not acceptable to the, let say majority at large “it was even promulgated to declare reference to the version of translation of the book being used to be acceptable to the reader as authority.
Here I would use your same float of idea as genuine requisite of the reader as “You have to use the common currency coins for general acceptance as in the media” though I do not agree with this term even.
Khokar in order to prove my unacceptability of your above float, I need to go in discussion again which will or might look illogical and useless on the topic as it’s a dry discussion and people would feel or become uneasy but I would love if you allow me to continue negating you till I my self is tired of discussing the word and phrase. Regards
Khokar Sahib
Although according to your Faith, we are non believers, sons and daughters of prostitutes, not allowed to marry your daughters, and you are prohibited to attend our funerals according to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
I pray to Allah, to give you and others like you, wisdom and guidence, with this knowledge, to accept Islam, and serve the greater cause of Muslim ummah. Khokar Sahib I pray this with dil say, aaja meray bhai, please.
Start facing this new era of discussion, Mr Khokar; this is what I was trying to explain that deterrence has many perspectives and one was as was pointed out by you.
If we as Muslim want to create these factors as deterrence, so to keep from the dust and damp, we got to come out of our curtailed, self designed restrictions of separated entity of perceiving all ifs and buts within the practices of our ideology and principle, as practices are to run ones life according to his faith regardless of dictating faith to unconcerned.
Competing, the forum of global exhibition representation, thou should be, as per practice and belief, but criteria of excellence and work should express humanity at large.
Safe guard and acceptability as state and community by testimony of belief only will ultimately jeopardize the existence.
Regards
Dear Saeed Ahmad Toronto,
Ref # 18
It reminds me of an interesting anecdote that once Elizabeth Taylor the famous beauty queen on the movie screen sent a message and purposed Albert Einstein the genius philosopher scientist for marriage; saying that you being the genius and me being the most beautiful lady, our kids will be beautiful like me and Genius like you. Reply of the genius was (words to that effect); what happens if it turns out otherwise?
I appreciate your views and calling me back to those very valleys which I left long times ago; My fear is that today every body is calling me( I means my Jammat) with all sorts of names of apostasy but what happens if tomorrow it proves other wise?
After all it happened earlier in case of Jesus (as) when the elites of Judaic rejected him and put him on the crux. Later Quran gives us the narrations!
Any how we will deal with this some next time but at the moment I want to suggest you, to attend the most despicable anti Islamic website of Robert Spencer - Jihadwatch.Org. Regiester your self there and try to serve the cause of Islam. You are quite a capable person but if you need some ammo just search A Khokar on the same website.
Here is the link: http://www.jihadwatch.org/.
Wish you best of luck- Toronto Boy.