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		<title>By: nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-280064</link>
		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khokar prem
Thanks a lot for your surprise compliments on my participation as I myself never considered upto this level of respect that  you have burdened me through yours good natured gestures.thanks again.I really face no serious threats form our Indian guest even discussing hot and crucial moments happened in last days.They always kept themselves in limits of decency and mannerism while talking to me and alwaysgive me full respect as a pure muslim Pakistani.
Those who denying the horrible mistakes of our military for production of extremsit and fanatics in our soil is living in state of denail.Military dictators brought these characters of massod and fazal ullah in northern punjab and NWFP for gathering deprived and unemployed men of our harsh ssytem in the name of recruiting in army.The justification of grooming these characters for self defence against red revolution is proved to be absurd and expired now.If we spent these resources on strengthening our border forces and strengthening our army on true professional basis then results would be totally different then what is happening now around us.We had poured millions of Afghan refugees as US wanted them and its dollar power that has blinded our generals and they started imposing their unidirectional policy of training terrorists in our soil under our surveillance.Now this unidirectional and non returnable policy of destruction is giving us fruits of  destruction and still policy makers are not accepting their deadly mistakes. and still in mood of justifying their wrong doings by making more mistakes .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khokar prem<br />
Thanks a lot for your surprise compliments on my participation as I myself never considered upto this level of respect that  you have burdened me through yours good natured gestures.thanks again.I really face no serious threats form our Indian guest even discussing hot and crucial moments happened in last days.They always kept themselves in limits of decency and mannerism while talking to me and alwaysgive me full respect as a pure muslim Pakistani.<br />
Those who denying the horrible mistakes of our military for production of extremsit and fanatics in our soil is living in state of denail.Military dictators brought these characters of massod and fazal ullah in northern punjab and NWFP for gathering deprived and unemployed men of our harsh ssytem in the name of recruiting in army.The justification of grooming these characters for self defence against red revolution is proved to be absurd and expired now.If we spent these resources on strengthening our border forces and strengthening our army on true professional basis then results would be totally different then what is happening now around us.We had poured millions of Afghan refugees as US wanted them and its dollar power that has blinded our generals and they started imposing their unidirectional policy of training terrorists in our soil under our surveillance.Now this unidirectional and non returnable policy of destruction is giving us fruits of  destruction and still policy makers are not accepting their deadly mistakes. and still in mood of justifying their wrong doings by making more mistakes .</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-280059</link>
		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathan,

If you think what I have written is wrong and India is behind everything has been happening in Pakistan, then please let me know why terrorist organisation can freely operate in Pakistan? Why people who head these organisations not captured and put in jail, why just the house arrest?

If you have somethings to say, speak out. As for Raza or AOM is concerned they might be patriotic, but that does not mean you have belittle other country to show your patriotism.

Also about your point of India sending its army or spys' to create problem in Pakistan, tell does Pakistan send its army or ISI people to India to create terror attacks? No they don't. They create a monster which is now getting out of their own hands and creating problem for Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathan,</p>
<p>If you think what I have written is wrong and India is behind everything has been happening in Pakistan, then please let me know why terrorist organisation can freely operate in Pakistan? Why people who head these organisations not captured and put in jail, why just the house arrest?</p>
<p>If you have somethings to say, speak out. As for Raza or AOM is concerned they might be patriotic, but that does not mean you have belittle other country to show your patriotism.</p>
<p>Also about your point of India sending its army or spys&#8217; to create problem in Pakistan, tell does Pakistan send its army or ISI people to India to create terror attacks? No they don&#8217;t. They create a monster which is now getting out of their own hands and creating problem for Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-280015</link>
		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathan
 First I thought yours wrong observation in your comment 23 and considered it weakness of yours reading skills that I criticized and some how challenged khokar in this respect as there was nothing like that for updating yours view kindly read @18 and @31 and learn how we three   contributed to end a controversial issue in a positive way.Now it is yours comment no 32 that is forcing me to to react accordingly as you have again indulged yourself in personal remarks that is surely out of scope of this forum.In this regard I can only say that yours mental capability is beyond the range of understanding/judging other's personality through his or her writings or one can say its yours" complete intelligence failure" in this respect.You have full authority to counter my or other viewers as per your capacity.it is yours utmost right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathan<br />
 First I thought yours wrong observation in your comment 23 and considered it weakness of yours reading skills that I criticized and some how challenged khokar in this respect as there was nothing like that for updating yours view kindly read @18 and @31 and learn how we three   contributed to end a controversial issue in a positive way.Now it is yours comment no 32 that is forcing me to to react accordingly as you have again indulged yourself in personal remarks that is surely out of scope of this forum.In this regard I can only say that yours mental capability is beyond the range of understanding/judging other&#8217;s personality through his or her writings or one can say its yours&#8221; complete intelligence failure&#8221; in this respect.You have full authority to counter my or other viewers as per your capacity.it is yours utmost right.</p>
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		<title>By: pathan</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-279984</link>
		<dc:creator>pathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prem, 

terrorism is no more a simple issue as your claims regarding the different militant organisations clearly reflcet that. it is amalgamated with the ideologies and the services of people like Baitullah Mahsood, or other who are a bit influential in their areas, have been hired by certain elements across the world. the whole world knows that pakistan intelligence had played a key role in defeating russia at afghan land. it is we who defeated the world power but not not for America, for our own interests.
what can be seen here that America was interested to subdue, we had our own interests so together we forced her to leave.  Pakistan has got a very central position in every aspect you take. some elements are interested in destabilising paksitan.  every group has its own interest. take America. . . why she want want to come here? i assume you know that. why isreal? i suppose you would have read the comments of Tahir in this topic. why india??   :) 

i am sure you know that. . . 

this is very interesting that the interested groups are using every possible approach to meet their goals. religious motives, economic gains, political reasons etc evry potential route is thoroughly analysed. so people like Baitullah mahsood and many more,we do not kow and perhaps would appear,become prey and so a food chain is developed.

prem. . . what i mean to say we have to take a holistic approach when we try to find out the root causes of  terrorism rather i would call it the INSTABILITY OF PAKISTAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prem, </p>
<p>terrorism is no more a simple issue as your claims regarding the different militant organisations clearly reflcet that. it is amalgamated with the ideologies and the services of people like Baitullah Mahsood, or other who are a bit influential in their areas, have been hired by certain elements across the world. the whole world knows that pakistan intelligence had played a key role in defeating russia at afghan land. it is we who defeated the world power but not not for America, for our own interests.<br />
what can be seen here that America was interested to subdue, we had our own interests so together we forced her to leave.  Pakistan has got a very central position in every aspect you take. some elements are interested in destabilising paksitan.  every group has its own interest. take America. . . why she want want to come here? i assume you know that. why isreal? i suppose you would have read the comments of Tahir in this topic. why india??   <img src='http://www.pkhope.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i am sure you know that. . . </p>
<p>this is very interesting that the interested groups are using every possible approach to meet their goals. religious motives, economic gains, political reasons etc evry potential route is thoroughly analysed. so people like Baitullah mahsood and many more,we do not kow and perhaps would appear,become prey and so a food chain is developed.</p>
<p>prem. . . what i mean to say we have to take a holistic approach when we try to find out the root causes of  terrorism rather i would call it the INSTABILITY OF PAKISTAN.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-279608</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 43
You asked for it

BaitUllah Mahsood  and people like him have some how learnt the ways how to extort money from the interested groups operating in their area of influence under the canopy of common term---terrorism. 

There are interested groups present in this area who want that a state of chaos and anarchy must prevail in order to justify their oppressive hold in the area where by, they have the reason to stay on to full fill their vested interest; as we see US, Europe, India etc exceptionally busy.

This group of US, Europe India etc may like to call people like Baitullh Mahsood;  terrorist for obvious reasons but they are the Money Extortionist, very skillfully busy in obtaining unlawfully money, property and services from all sides through show of force, violence and coercion. It gives them a win-win and happy situation when every side is willing to pay them also.

They will go where the money goes. When Pakistan pays them they may go with Pakistan and will announce that here by they abide by all its laws etc. Then there comes an agent of Uncle Sam or a ghost visitor from India; they get the money, weapons and other means and they tilt their side. They also carry out what they are told to do. More service needs that more money be poured. A show is that it goes on.
 
Any how every one may likes to wear some sort of coat to be counted as Nobel (ashraaf) in the society and these Money Extortionist they also try to wear a specific garb of religion to avail them a camouflage. 

Are they serving God: ----yes, serving they are but serving their own gods.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 43<br />
You asked for it</p>
<p>BaitUllah Mahsood  and people like him have some how learnt the ways how to extort money from the interested groups operating in their area of influence under the canopy of common term&#8212;terrorism. </p>
<p>There are interested groups present in this area who want that a state of chaos and anarchy must prevail in order to justify their oppressive hold in the area where by, they have the reason to stay on to full fill their vested interest; as we see US, Europe, India etc exceptionally busy.</p>
<p>This group of US, Europe India etc may like to call people like Baitullh Mahsood;  terrorist for obvious reasons but they are the Money Extortionist, very skillfully busy in obtaining unlawfully money, property and services from all sides through show of force, violence and coercion. It gives them a win-win and happy situation when every side is willing to pay them also.</p>
<p>They will go where the money goes. When Pakistan pays them they may go with Pakistan and will announce that here by they abide by all its laws etc. Then there comes an agent of Uncle Sam or a ghost visitor from India; they get the money, weapons and other means and they tilt their side. They also carry out what they are told to do. More service needs that more money be poured. A show is that it goes on.</p>
<p>Any how every one may likes to wear some sort of coat to be counted as Nobel (ashraaf) in the society and these Money Extortionist they also try to wear a specific garb of religion to avail them a camouflage. </p>
<p>Are they serving God: &#8212;-yes, serving they are but serving their own gods.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-279441</link>
		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Prem,

#41
I think I told you some time back that ‘Prem’ is some misnomer attached to yourself. It was just your leg pulling then but today you have confirmed that even your near and dears, who know you from a close quarters, also have got the same opinion. Any how; for sure Mr. Prem is a humble soul; has got the heart which may feel the pains of others. That is it. May God bless you.

Prem when I say that Pakistan is the land where True Islam may be practiced that does not mean that there is no place for the people practicing the older religions found here and have not yet joined the ranks of Islam. Islam gives equal human status to all and there is no discrimination or coercion in the religion.  

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Prem,</p>
<p>#41<br />
I think I told you some time back that ‘Prem’ is some misnomer attached to yourself. It was just your leg pulling then but today you have confirmed that even your near and dears, who know you from a close quarters, also have got the same opinion. Any how; for sure Mr. Prem is a humble soul; has got the heart which may feel the pains of others. That is it. May God bless you.</p>
<p>Prem when I say that Pakistan is the land where True Islam may be practiced that does not mean that there is no place for the people practicing the older religions found here and have not yet joined the ranks of Islam. Islam gives equal human status to all and there is no discrimination or coercion in the religion.  </p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: premji</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-278140</link>
		<dc:creator>premji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathan,
Tell me, who is this Baitullah Mehsud? Is he an Indian spy agent? Man, these are the same monsters created by your army/ISI and branded as freedom fighters. Now these monsters have turned on to you and so you call them terrorists. Why the hell is your double standard? You mean to say that anything that harms Pakistan is a foreign conspiracy. Why didn't Pakistan learned from its past mistakes? Why does Pakistan mixes religion with their governance (including democracy). You know religion and democracy cannot go together. If you know a bit more about terrorists, then tell me what is LeT, JuD, JeM etc.? Are they freedom fighters or terrorists? Answer this first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathan,<br />
Tell me, who is this Baitullah Mehsud? Is he an Indian spy agent? Man, these are the same monsters created by your army/ISI and branded as freedom fighters. Now these monsters have turned on to you and so you call them terrorists. Why the hell is your double standard? You mean to say that anything that harms Pakistan is a foreign conspiracy. Why didn&#8217;t Pakistan learned from its past mistakes? Why does Pakistan mixes religion with their governance (including democracy). You know religion and democracy cannot go together. If you know a bit more about terrorists, then tell me what is LeT, JuD, JeM etc.? Are they freedom fighters or terrorists? Answer this first.</p>
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		<title>By: pathan</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-278118</link>
		<dc:creator>pathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>incredible indian,

Dr raza is rightly blaming india for all these. let me the first here to admit that yes pakistan might have done something like this in india but india is revenging because india never accepted pakistan as a soveriegn, independent, progressive, democratic, islamic state. well, now Dr raza, AOM and other patriots might use the the direct and sometimes harsh words but what actually they say they realy mean it and almost all pakistani agree with them.  India migt not be directly involved in such incidents as it is very foolish to expect india to send their troops or agents to carry our such challenging tasks. yes this is right that india is not involoved alone in this game. there are many gangsters around the world and the multinationals carry our their business through locals. this is the fact of the day.  a very beautiful overview is presented in the comments of Tahir kaka khail under this very topic.  i would like you to read it.  yea,  this is israel and its allies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>incredible indian,</p>
<p>Dr raza is rightly blaming india for all these. let me the first here to admit that yes pakistan might have done something like this in india but india is revenging because india never accepted pakistan as a soveriegn, independent, progressive, democratic, islamic state. well, now Dr raza, AOM and other patriots might use the the direct and sometimes harsh words but what actually they say they realy mean it and almost all pakistani agree with them.  India migt not be directly involved in such incidents as it is very foolish to expect india to send their troops or agents to carry our such challenging tasks. yes this is right that india is not involoved alone in this game. there are many gangsters around the world and the multinationals carry our their business through locals. this is the fact of the day.  a very beautiful overview is presented in the comments of Tahir kaka khail under this very topic.  i would like you to read it.  yea,  this is israel and its allies!</p>
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		<title>By: premji</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-277871</link>
		<dc:creator>premji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear A Khokar,

Thank you for remembering me and your invitation. And yes, its my pleasure talking and exchanging views with all of you. You must have found some of my comments very harsh but that depends on the argument of the subject matter. You may also find me cracking funny wacky comments and teasing Maham Javed just for annoying her. The more she gets annoyed, the more I tease her. I know I should not be behaving like this for a young lady like her. And I appologize her for this. I certainly pin-point specially you and Dr.Raza Haider because both of you are cannons in terms of writing skills, delivering and creating a strong impact on the readers. Though, I must say, that the contents and matters in your articles sounds fictitious rather than reality. They are written mainly on assumptions and not factual. But the way you both portay the fiction, looks fact. So I heartily compliment both of you for your skills. But inorder to divert the readers of believing a fiction into fact, I tend to flash my comments, whether harsh, funny or out of the track. I have no grudge or enimity with any of the pakistanis, believe me. I am is actually you. There's no difference.

My name is Prem and I live in Mumbai. You are right about me which reminds me of my younger brther commenting on me "Prem, even though your name is Prem but you don't even have 1% of prem left in you". You can call me by any name you want, I will never object. I call Dr.Raza Haider, Munna Bhai MBBS. Whats wrong in it? And I know that Dr.Raza is also funny at many a times in his comments. Aren't you Dr.Raza Haider?

Not only Pakistan, the entire earth is God's gift. It's we and our duty to protect and make it a peaceful earth. You yourself contradict and insult your nationals when you say that "True Pakistaniat is Islam". Then what about un-islamic minorites in Pakistan? Aren't they Pakistanis? Don't they deserve the right to live in Pakistan? Don't they have the rights to follow their own religion other than islam? Why do you ignore other non-muslims and their right to exist in Pakistan? Atleast your statement sounds indiscriminate.

Anyway, I hope to have a healthy beneficial blogging with all of you.

Regards to all the Pakistanis,

Prem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear A Khokar,</p>
<p>Thank you for remembering me and your invitation. And yes, its my pleasure talking and exchanging views with all of you. You must have found some of my comments very harsh but that depends on the argument of the subject matter. You may also find me cracking funny wacky comments and teasing Maham Javed just for annoying her. The more she gets annoyed, the more I tease her. I know I should not be behaving like this for a young lady like her. And I appologize her for this. I certainly pin-point specially you and Dr.Raza Haider because both of you are cannons in terms of writing skills, delivering and creating a strong impact on the readers. Though, I must say, that the contents and matters in your articles sounds fictitious rather than reality. They are written mainly on assumptions and not factual. But the way you both portay the fiction, looks fact. So I heartily compliment both of you for your skills. But inorder to divert the readers of believing a fiction into fact, I tend to flash my comments, whether harsh, funny or out of the track. I have no grudge or enimity with any of the pakistanis, believe me. I am is actually you. There&#8217;s no difference.</p>
<p>My name is Prem and I live in Mumbai. You are right about me which reminds me of my younger brther commenting on me &#8220;Prem, even though your name is Prem but you don&#8217;t even have 1% of prem left in you&#8221;. You can call me by any name you want, I will never object. I call Dr.Raza Haider, Munna Bhai MBBS. Whats wrong in it? And I know that Dr.Raza is also funny at many a times in his comments. Aren&#8217;t you Dr.Raza Haider?</p>
<p>Not only Pakistan, the entire earth is God&#8217;s gift. It&#8217;s we and our duty to protect and make it a peaceful earth. You yourself contradict and insult your nationals when you say that &#8220;True Pakistaniat is Islam&#8221;. Then what about un-islamic minorites in Pakistan? Aren&#8217;t they Pakistanis? Don&#8217;t they deserve the right to live in Pakistan? Don&#8217;t they have the rights to follow their own religion other than islam? Why do you ignore other non-muslims and their right to exist in Pakistan? Atleast your statement sounds indiscriminate.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope to have a healthy beneficial blogging with all of you.</p>
<p>Regards to all the Pakistanis,</p>
<p>Prem</p>
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		<title>By: Incredible Indian</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/complete-intelligence-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-277864</link>
		<dc:creator>Incredible Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A STANZA from the above  BLOG POST

"This unfortunate attack in Lahore could be, and it should be the beginning of a new resolve by the country to not let anyone, either domestic, or foreign to unnecessarily exert pressure on Pakistan. The country belongs to the people who live in Pakistan and it is up to the Pakistani public to decide their future, their alliances and allegiances going forward.

Of course, it is not going to be easy because there are people in the country who link every attack, every incident, everything unfortunate incident to an ‘invisible foreign hand’ and it is time for them to dig their heads out of sand because the water around them is rising, and rising fast. However, it is also important to note that this fight to free the country from the nihilists is not going to be a cake walk. The obstructionists will once again try to create confusion, make irrational and illogical arguments, but it is also a challenge for peace loving people to make the case against terrorism without ifs and buts clearly, logically and in a language that is not abstract for the masses to comprehend because at the end of the day, this battle to defeat hate mongers will only be won if the entire country joins this effort wholeheartedly."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A STANZA from the above  BLOG POST</p>
<p>&#8220;This unfortunate attack in Lahore could be, and it should be the beginning of a new resolve by the country to not let anyone, either domestic, or foreign to unnecessarily exert pressure on Pakistan. The country belongs to the people who live in Pakistan and it is up to the Pakistani public to decide their future, their alliances and allegiances going forward.</p>
<p>Of course, it is not going to be easy because there are people in the country who link every attack, every incident, everything unfortunate incident to an ‘invisible foreign hand’ and it is time for them to dig their heads out of sand because the water around them is rising, and rising fast. However, it is also important to note that this fight to free the country from the nihilists is not going to be a cake walk. The obstructionists will once again try to create confusion, make irrational and illogical arguments, but it is also a challenge for peace loving people to make the case against terrorism without ifs and buts clearly, logically and in a language that is not abstract for the masses to comprehend because at the end of the day, this battle to defeat hate mongers will only be won if the entire country joins this effort wholeheartedly.&#8221;</p>
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