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		<title>By: Major (rtd) Nadeem Dar</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/coas-must-take-action-against-brig-imtiaz-nadeem-dar-mumtaz/comment-page-1/#comment-847320</link>
		<dc:creator>Major (rtd) Nadeem Dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 19 - Nazia

I could not get  through with the contact you reffered. Please note that you can contact me through my mail address which starts with nadeemd and then all the free mail servers people are using in all over the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 19 - Nazia</p>
<p>I could not get  through with the contact you reffered. Please note that you can contact me through my mail address which starts with nadeemd and then all the free mail servers people are using in all over the world.</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18
After reading your whereabouts of job areas i.e in karchi operation or in gujrawala cant area,it is very easy for me to approach you directly and get some information which you want to share,But  I think  it will create lot of problems for you as I think some stir has surely been created in army houses after your direct attack on their real crimes.My points and observation are very clear  after reading  your biography that you had been only hit by group pf fanatics of our agencies which were surely ordered by some brig and general whom you targeted in your talks.
What ever was your experience in our army life, might be your passion or horrified dream  but  I clearly took it as brow beaten attitude of our army establishment.After seeing the fate of gen alvi, gen baig and many civilians I think you are luckiest person who survived after tdeadly attacks.
It is difficult for me to directly contact you but you can sent me anything via TPS as I have no trust on net people who is sitting behind the curtains.I think I can trust TPS in this matter as they will care for me and my last one and half year fellowship with them at least.There is no harm  on risking one group rather than trying new persons,in this veiled world of net
If you have time try to read book count of Monte cristo.Its English version is available. You will find the ups and downs of edmond dantes in two stages,One is when he was simple professional sailor and other was when he had become aware and mature men through the guidance of a saint abbe in dungeon.His dialogs for his trustworthy people who betrayed him in all moments by disguising them in friend's skin after completing his revenge are good learning lessons in our practical lives .It is also showed there that we are mostly cheated by our close ones in our ignorances.Its movie is also available but it doesn't cover the depth of real dialogs of edmond which is close to reality of our lives too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18<br />
After reading your whereabouts of job areas i.e in karchi operation or in gujrawala cant area,it is very easy for me to approach you directly and get some information which you want to share,But  I think  it will create lot of problems for you as I think some stir has surely been created in army houses after your direct attack on their real crimes.My points and observation are very clear  after reading  your biography that you had been only hit by group pf fanatics of our agencies which were surely ordered by some brig and general whom you targeted in your talks.<br />
What ever was your experience in our army life, might be your passion or horrified dream  but  I clearly took it as brow beaten attitude of our army establishment.After seeing the fate of gen alvi, gen baig and many civilians I think you are luckiest person who survived after tdeadly attacks.<br />
It is difficult for me to directly contact you but you can sent me anything via TPS as I have no trust on net people who is sitting behind the curtains.I think I can trust TPS in this matter as they will care for me and my last one and half year fellowship with them at least.There is no harm  on risking one group rather than trying new persons,in this veiled world of net<br />
If you have time try to read book count of Monte cristo.Its English version is available. You will find the ups and downs of edmond dantes in two stages,One is when he was simple professional sailor and other was when he had become aware and mature men through the guidance of a saint abbe in dungeon.His dialogs for his trustworthy people who betrayed him in all moments by disguising them in friend&#8217;s skin after completing his revenge are good learning lessons in our practical lives .It is also showed there that we are mostly cheated by our close ones in our ignorances.Its movie is also available but it doesn&#8217;t cover the depth of real dialogs of edmond which is close to reality of our lives too.</p>
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		<title>By: Major (Rtd) Nadeem Dar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major (Rtd) Nadeem Dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nazia

I would like to share some information, but not on the blog. Can you contact me through e-mail</description>
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<p>I would like to share some information, but not on the blog. Can you contact me through e-mail</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khokar
It has been proved now that after some break they create false scenes using the state machinery and then try to prove their best that political structure is not suitable to us.Here I am thankful to musharf ' s regime that at least in his tenure people have now confirmed that our all sole problems are coming from the brains of  joint venture of military establishment  and strong feudal who are controlling our political structure as per demand of army.
Here we dont need to call them as they are always ready to grab and cease political system just need of
pseudo crime scene and then the actions of arms start on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khokar<br />
It has been proved now that after some break they create false scenes using the state machinery and then try to prove their best that political structure is not suitable to us.Here I am thankful to musharf &#8216; s regime that at least in his tenure people have now confirmed that our all sole problems are coming from the brains of  joint venture of military establishment  and strong feudal who are controlling our political structure as per demand of army.<br />
Here we dont need to call them as they are always ready to grab and cease political system just need of<br />
pseudo crime scene and then the actions of arms start on us.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazia,
Pak army has never come to power at their own till they were asked to do so earlier--- Public kay pur zour Israar per... or were compelled to adopt that route; as in Musharraf’s time. That is why whenever they came people accepted them as their saviour and it served them as a sigh of relief. 

Pak Army take over has invariably been celebrated in the streets by distribution of sweets especially Ladous and saying nawafil e Shukraana.

 Tum nay Pukara aour Hum Chelay aaey.

 Don’t take it serious but when people can bear being governed by plunderers, robbers, tax evaders and looters---------- what is harm that for a change if they spend some time with their own army lot? For a fun sake.

Angraizee Zabaan go keh barri mushkal hey magar
Fail honay kay leay bhi ek mazmoun hounaa chaeay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazia,<br />
Pak army has never come to power at their own till they were asked to do so earlier&#8212; Public kay pur zour Israar per&#8230; or were compelled to adopt that route; as in Musharraf’s time. That is why whenever they came people accepted them as their saviour and it served them as a sigh of relief. </p>
<p>Pak Army take over has invariably been celebrated in the streets by distribution of sweets especially Ladous and saying nawafil e Shukraana.</p>
<p> Tum nay Pukara aour Hum Chelay aaey.</p>
<p> Don’t take it serious but when people can bear being governed by plunderers, robbers, tax evaders and looters&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- what is harm that for a change if they spend some time with their own army lot? For a fun sake.</p>
<p>Angraizee Zabaan go keh barri mushkal hey magar<br />
Fail honay kay leay bhi ek mazmoun hounaa chaeay</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No as usual I dont agree with you
there are surely more than two ways of doing things and depend on versatilely of human behaviors /minds growing around us.Right and wrong are part of each decisions and proper planning has always  capacity to absorb the wrongness of any act.
Handling civilian matters with military rule is completely wrong way to erect the distorted cases.
Who allowed army to jump to PM houses and arrest the public representatives, hanged him or throw him away by using the power of Gun.
Why not single general was hanged on fall of Decca or in failure of kargil war in our country.
Why after confession of bgder Imtiaz , no action was being taken against ex GOC Karachi as at that moment without his permission no one could think of presenting it to ISPR.
Why again a civilian acted PM is again selected to throw curses on him only?
This is called bullying the nation by posing themselves as actual savior of people.
Foxes disguised in sheep's skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No as usual I dont agree with you<br />
there are surely more than two ways of doing things and depend on versatilely of human behaviors /minds growing around us.Right and wrong are part of each decisions and proper planning has always  capacity to absorb the wrongness of any act.<br />
Handling civilian matters with military rule is completely wrong way to erect the distorted cases.<br />
Who allowed army to jump to PM houses and arrest the public representatives, hanged him or throw him away by using the power of Gun.<br />
Why not single general was hanged on fall of Decca or in failure of kargil war in our country.<br />
Why after confession of bgder Imtiaz , no action was being taken against ex GOC Karachi as at that moment without his permission no one could think of presenting it to ISPR.<br />
Why again a civilian acted PM is again selected to throw curses on him only?<br />
This is called bullying the nation by posing themselves as actual savior of people.<br />
Foxes disguised in sheep&#8217;s skin.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nazia,

## 13

 There are two ways of doing things. Right way and a wrong way....but there is a third way also---Military way; to be in control of situation the route adopted by our armed forces----its their way of doing things.

Matter of the fact is that where ever the civilian elites become the weakest links in any nation that nation is taken over by the other forces like military or extremists (internal or external)etc and those nations are always doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nazia,</p>
<p>## 13</p>
<p> There are two ways of doing things. Right way and a wrong way&#8230;.but there is a third way also&#8212;Military way; to be in control of situation the route adopted by our armed forces&#8212;-its their way of doing things.</p>
<p>Matter of the fact is that where ever the civilian elites become the weakest links in any nation that nation is taken over by the other forces like military or extremists (internal or external)etc and those nations are always doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: nazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not called controllling the situation it is called bullying the people by creating false scenes of chaos. first act like creator and then behave like destroyer by taking responsibility as savoiur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not called controllling the situation it is called bullying the people by creating false scenes of chaos. first act like creator and then behave like destroyer by taking responsibility as savoiur.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contd....
Ex-DG IB Brig Imtiaz Ahmed so called late confessions are just little tickle- tackles to keep the run heated up and--------- to remain in control. 

 Don’t you think that PML-N was crossing limits and were grown bigger than their life size? It needed to cut them back to their size which includes the PML-N’s CJP also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contd&#8230;.<br />
Ex-DG IB Brig Imtiaz Ahmed so called late confessions are just little tickle- tackles to keep the run heated up and&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; to remain in control. </p>
<p> Don’t you think that PML-N was crossing limits and were grown bigger than their life size? It needed to cut them back to their size which includes the PML-N’s CJP also.</p>
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		<title>By: A Khokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Khokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear nazia,

Why you are so surprised?

This is well known secret that our military claims to be the sole guardian and saviour of this nation and there is no exaggeration in saying that when it is seen by Military and they evaluate it and find that politician--they do not own this country and they prefer to stay abroad to escape any untoward incident---- Military feel perturbed to see a vacuum------and it is obvious that only institution of military is left to guard this country. Military has  its Omni presence--- So rightfully or wrongfully---thereby they move in. Our Military believes that they owned this country and are its proud Landlords. They owned it in the past and (believe it or not)---they still own it and are in control of all the developing situations and are keeping a very strict eye on it.

Remember------when there was just one telephone call from COAS to Ehtizaz Ehsan---- and famous / over blown long march was called off right at Gujranwala. -------- Islamabad was just; Do char jab keh labay baam reh gia ----and also----------PPP restored the CJP instantly. 
Haq----- baa haqdaar raseed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear nazia,</p>
<p>Why you are so surprised?</p>
<p>This is well known secret that our military claims to be the sole guardian and saviour of this nation and there is no exaggeration in saying that when it is seen by Military and they evaluate it and find that politician&#8211;they do not own this country and they prefer to stay abroad to escape any untoward incident&#8212;- Military feel perturbed to see a vacuum&#8212;&#8212;and it is obvious that only institution of military is left to guard this country. Military has  its Omni presence&#8212; So rightfully or wrongfully&#8212;thereby they move in. Our Military believes that they owned this country and are its proud Landlords. They owned it in the past and (believe it or not)&#8212;they still own it and are in control of all the developing situations and are keeping a very strict eye on it.</p>
<p>Remember&#8212;&#8212;when there was just one telephone call from COAS to Ehtizaz Ehsan&#8212;- and famous / over blown long march was called off right at Gujranwala. &#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Islamabad was just; Do char jab keh labay baam reh gia &#8212;-and also&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-PPP restored the CJP instantly.<br />
Haq&#8212;&#8211; baa haqdaar raseed.</p>
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