Ask Mrs. Karkare: Was It Lashker or BJP?
By A Khokar • Dec 14th, 2008 • Category: Politics, Worth A Second Look • 24 CommentsThe timing of Mumbai terror is well planned, just before Indian state elections! So who will reap the benefit? Lashkar-e-Taiba or BJP? If ISI did it, then they must be stupid. And they are not.
I am in receipt of an E mail which says;
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan Thursday, 11 December 2008. If the America’s lapdogs in the Pakistani government had any brains, they would have demanded that Mrs. Hemant Karkare, the wife of the Indian antiterrorism chief killed in the very first hours of Mumbai attack be allowed to speak up. Also, a retired Indian army officer, a close friend was told by Karkare in writing a few hours before he was killed that his life was under threat by Hindu terrorists and their handlers in the Indian military intelligence. Both Mr. Karkare and the secret letter written by her husband have been… suppressed.
Is the world at large that naive as not to consider that:
- Unlike other terrorists in similar situations, the terrorists in Mumbai did not demand anything. They didn’t even demand the release of their supposedly jailed colleagues or ask for money. Why? What was their target then?
- Unlike other so-called Islamic jehadis with beards and turbans, the Mumbai terrorists came with strange looks, wearing jeans and T-shirts, clean-shaven, no turbans nor any sign of ‘Muslims terrorists’.
- Mumbai’s ‘Pakistani terrorists’ were a funny brand of ‘Muslim terrorists’: beer guzzling terrorists. True to the fancy world of Indian movies, Mumbai’s Jehadis go to a bar and stock up on beer before they launch their crusade.
- Mumbai terrorists (as shown by media) had close similarities with RSS cadres: The alleged lone survivor happens to be the same guy whose pictures were conveniently captured by Indian photographers and as he walked to make his kill, intriguingly wearing a yellow band on his right hand wrist in the typical style of Hindu terrorist RSS cadres.
- Mumbai terrorists immediately find their targets by killing Anti Terrorist Squad (ATS) leaders [Hemant Karakare, CP Ashok Kamthe & Vijay Salskar) in the first 15 minutes of the attacks. Karakare was wearing a bullet proof jacket. He was fired right on his neck! He was in a crowded place, so it was not easy to find and identify him. How they got so much information? Why they targeted him? How and why they so specific the clearly chose ATS leaders? And the terrorists immediately ran away? Making Karkare's murder a puzzle that can't be solved? ATS was investigating BJP involvement in terrorism, Colonel Prohait , Samjhoota Express Blasts, etc. [See-1]
- When Indian soldiers deliberately gorged out the eyes and defaced every one of the terrorists, how come one was caught alive, and that too the one who was – conveniently – photographed by some unknown Indian photographer?
- The precision and swiftness of the terrorist action in Mumbai leaves no doubt the perpetrators were not outsiders. There is no way anyone can hold a huge city like Mumbai hostage for three days without knowing the city and the Indian security system inside out.
- Prime Minister, Sonia & L.K. Advani visit Mumbai, but no clues or no claims about ISI or Pakistan. However, the Number One Indian Terrorist, Gujarat Chief Minister Narinder Modi rushes to Mumbai and declares that Pakistan is behind the attack without any doubt! Note: no other Indian chief ministers travel to Mumbai. Modi, the killer of 2,500 Indian Muslim women and children in 2002, offered rewards to every military man killed to the tune of several million Indian rupees, which is something that didn’t occur to either the Indian government or the opposition.
- Media was widely reporting that there were IDs of terrorists recovered that show Malaysian and Mauritius IDs. However, such references disappear after Modi’s arrival.
- The timing of Mumbai terror is well planned, just before Indian state elections! (So who will reap the benefit? Lashkar-e-taiba or BJP?) If ISI did it, then they must be stupid. And they are not.
- We are told the terrorists came from Pakistan by sea. Was the Indian navy asleep? We are also told they came by make shift dingy boats. Is it possible to travel such a long distance on such boats with out local help?
- It took hundreds of Indian soldiers for about 60 hours to stop the terrorists. Is the Indian army and commandos a bunch of circus clowns?
- Karkare’s wife declined ‘Modi’s compensation offer’. It was her sown special way of identifying the real perpetrators.[2]
Link: http://www.adab-arz.co.uk/
References:
[1] http://www.ocnus. net/artman2/ publish/Defence_ Arms_13/India_ Hindu_Supremacis t_Terror_ Network.shtmlhttp://www.sahilnew s.org/english/ news.php? catID=voice&nid=4133&viewed=0
[2]See http://www.expressi ndia.com/ latest-news/ Karkares- wife-declines- Modis-compensati on-offer/ 392207/
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‘Hindu Terrorism’ is such a funny term!
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU INDIES THAT THIS DRAMA WAS A COVERUP TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE SAMJHOTA XPLESS PATAKHAY?? YOU INDIES ONLY LOVE TO HATE PAKIS IT HAS BEEN 7 YEARS SINCE THE ATTACK ON YOUR PARLIMENT WHERE YOUR…… YOUR….. DHOTIWALAS SIT (array bahi dhoyiwaly ko maar ker kisse ne kia kerna hai?)
SO YOUR BALTHAKRAY, SHIV SENA AND DAL BAJRANG NEED AN EXCUSE TO BASH PAKISTAN AND RUN AN ELECTION CAMPAIN BECAUSE YOU SEE THESE FANATICS THRIVE ON THESE ISSUES, PEACE WITH PAKIS WAS A DEATH SENTENCE FOR THESE HOUNDS THEY WERE DESPRATELY NEEDING A REASON TO MAKE PAKIS LOOK BAD
AND DONT THINK YOUR ARMED FORCES IS AN ARMY OF ANGLES WHO SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY REPEATING “HARAY RAMA HARAY KRISHNA” THEY( LIKE THE PAK ARMY) ARE TRAINED ALL THEIR LIVES ONE MOTIVE THAT IS TO DESTROY THE ENEMY SO THE ARMY CANT EVEN STAND THE SIGHT OF PEACE YOU SEE THEY ONLY DREAM DESTRUCTION.
SO WITH ELECTION AROUND THE CORNER THIS ATTACK WAS JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED FOR THE INDIAN FUNDAMENTISTS PARTIES `WHO WOULD PREFER TO DIE RATHER THAN ADVOCATING PEACE WITH PAKIS
AND YOUR BELOVED ARMY WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HAVE AN EXTREMIST ANTI PAKI GOVERNMENT IN POWER WHO CAN ALLOT ALL THE MONEY THE ARMY NEEDS TO UPGRADE THE ARMY EQUIPMENT ARMYMEN LOVE TO DO THAT THUS SATISFYING THEIR(ARMY’S) EGOS THEY LOVE TO FEEL SUPERIOUR THAN THEIR ENMIES
DO YOU INDIES THINK ITS A COINCIDENCE??????????
AMERICA THRIVES AND NEEDS A WAR TO KEEP THEIR ECONOMY MOVING (YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN AGIRCULTURS BASED ECONMONY, TOURIST BASED ECONOMYY NOW CHECK OUT THE WAR BASED ECONOMY! ) SO THEY MADE 9/11
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yeh indies tou baray baywaquf hain, pakion say dushmani hai inn ki mera khayal tha indies chalak hoon gaye!! yeh to amreeikioon say bhi baywaquf niklay who 9/11 mian trap thay indies 26/11 mian gir gaye!
ABB TUM INDIES YEH MAT KEHNA KEH TERROISTS TARGETED TAJ MAHAL HOTEL BECAUSE THE TERRORIST WANTED TO SEE THE TAJ HOTEL FROM THE INSIDE
Come on Khokar,
A belated story line not accepted by even your closest friend and ally China.
On time or late , we must search for the truth,
why should it bother anyone if its the truth?
The confession of the lone surviving terrorists Mr Ajmal Amir Kasab is very surprising for all of us. Just yesterday his group brought a havoc in Mumbai and today he has started preaching the truth. Not that he reportedly confesses (if it is right) that he is Ajmal Amir Kasab of Faridkot and he comes from Pakistan and blah, blah, blah. But what interesting is that so called men of velour who had carried out an attack deep in Indian Territory with such a precision. (Leaving the savagery and devastation in Mumbai massacre aside which is most despicable conduct) this gangue was able to execute their mission so well. It was a unique show of their spirit and professionalism. They remorselessly fought it out to the last bullet and last breath.
Now he; over night has becomes a confessor and preacher of truth. But he is coming out with all the stories that Indian Media as well as the Indian government agencies portrayed in the very first hour of the incident on 26 November 2008 with out any proof or evidence.
More surprising is that how quickly Lasher e Teyiba is banned by united Nation security Council also. Surprising very, very surprising. Seemingly, big conspiracies are hatching there.
If the above all is taken as truth and correct and if Lashker e Tayiba is some viable force really indulging in such like missions then Lashkar e Tayiba must take a heed; that they might have inculcated the strategy of No Exit theory for their executioners; to do and die only. The very lone survivor like Ajmal Amir Kasab may topple their entire domain over?
But at the same time why the Indian indigenous forces vigorously working about one hundred in all, against the Indian Central government fighting for their separate home lands are to be ignored? Cracks are already showing there.
For details please refer to Link; Mumbai Under Terrorist Attack- http://www.adab-arz.co.uk/?p=151
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[...] is an excerpt from a post in pakspectator.com. Though some of the points mentioned here can discarded as baseless babble. Some points do tend to [...]
Dear Prime Minister Manmohan Singh/Atal Bihari Vajpayee/Narasimha Rao /Rajiv Gandhi,
Pakistan strongly condemns / is shocked by / is pleasantly surprised with the success of our “freedom fighters” in the loss of dozens /hundreds / thousands / millions of innocent lives in the bomb blasts / sniper attack / hijacking / religious riots / other disaster that occurred ina busy marketplace / train / housing colony / Indian parliament building / an upper-class hotel! l / temple in Mumbai / Delhi / Kashmir / Assam/ Punjab / Gujarat / Other.
The Pakistani citizens / soldiers / “freedom fighters” / “friendship agents” / students who were caught red-handed / found dead at the scene of the crime / convicted of the crime are actually undercover Indian / American / Israeli agents. Any Pakistanis proven to be guilty of terrorism will be rewarded handsomely / dealt with severely / promoted to Lt. Colonel / given a new Indian passport and sent back to India / handed over to the Americans as proof ! of our commitment in the war on terror.
There are no Pakistani army-funded training camps / terrorist camps / madrasaas in Azad Kashmir / Afghanistan / Nepal / Bangladesh. Thesatellite images / photographs / eyewitness accounts / videotaped confessions obtained by the Indians is fraudulent / fake / inconclusive / are actually from Indian terrorist camps and part of a larger RAW / CIA conspiracy to destabilize the Pakistani government by stalling democracy / encouraging sectarian violence / undermining Pakistani institutions / causing the next military coup in Pakistan. A destabilized Pakistani government / mafia could cause Pakistan to become a! dangerous nuclear Wal-Mart / Target / Seven-Eleven and a terrorist breeding ground / university / research lab that would be worse for the world.
We hope this will not derail the peace process started with the recent India-Pakistan cricket series / Lahore bus yatra / Muzafarabad-Srinagar road opening / Bollywood peace concert / open borders initiative / other confidence-building measures. We look forward to justifying further attacks against innocent civilians / resolving the core issue of Kashmir / developing best-of-breed plausible deniability defenses.
We stand by! / are plotting against our Indian brethren in their hour / days / years / decades of pain.
Signed,
Asif Ali Zardari
President, Pakistan / Chief Operating Officer, Taliban Inc. / General, Pakistani Army
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on insult/offence/pun intended for you
Antulay seeks probe into Karkare’s killing
17 Dec 2008, PTI
Times News Network A R Antulay reacts while interacting with media outside Parliament House in New Delhi.
Video Link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videoshow/3852203.cms
New Delhi: Minority affairs minister A R Antulay on Wednesday set off a major political row by demanding a probe into the shooting of Mumbai ATS chief Hemant Karkare in the 26/11 terror strikes which he linked to investigations into the alleged involvement of Hindu radicals in the Malegaon blast case.
Stating the circumstances of Karkare’s shooting “may be inquired into”, Antulay seemed to have borrowed a leaf from Pakistani TV hosts who have claimed that the Mumbai attacks were the handiwork of “Hindu-Zionists”. Antulay told the media outside Parliament’s gate number 12 that “there must have been some reason why Karkare went to Cama hospital instead of Taj and Oberoi hotels.”
Antulay said “someone” could have told Karkare and other officers with him to go to Cama hospital, suggesting that the ATS chief fell victim to a set-up as he was probing cases which involved Hindu radicals in the Malegaon case. The comments were immediately televised and triggered an uproar in Lok Sabha where BJP and Shiv Sena MPs vehemently criticised the minister who insisted that directions issued to the officer must be probed.
A red-faced Congress swiftly dissociated itself from the minister with party spokesperson Abhisekh Singhvi saying, “We don’t accept the inference and the innuendo that underline the statement (of Antulay)…we don’t agree with bringing this case (Karkare’s killing) under a cloud.”
But Antulay was unfazed, virtually daring the Congress to sack him and offering to “explain” the geography of south Mumbai to his party.
He got support from the RJD with party leader Devendra Yadav also expressing suspicion of involvement of Hindu radicals in Karkare’s killing. As his boss Lalu Prasad looked on approvingly, he said, “Two days before Karkare was killed, who had given a call for Maharashtra bandh?”
Reacting to the controversy, BJP condemned Antulay’s statement and said the minister was as good as playing ISI’s attorney and demanded his sacking. BJP leader Arun Jaitley said Pakistan could now quote Antulay to contest the account of the lone surviving Mumbai terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab. “Having made such a preposterous statement, Antulay cannot be allowed to remain in government even for a day,” he said.
Antulay has been fulminating since Tuesday evening when the Cabinet cleared the bills for a National Investigation Agency and amendments to the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. He expressed apprehension that tougher anti-terror laws could well be misused, hinting that minorities were in the line of fire.
On Wednesday afternoon, Antulay added to this script, telling TV cameras that apart from terrorism, the laws should also emcompass communal riots. “Those who riot are also terrorists,” he claimed, seeking to provide what he felt was a sense of “equivalence” to the government’s actions. But soon after, perhaps dissatisfied by his efforts, Antulay reappeared to claim he suspected foul play in the shooting of Karkare.
The “Karakare conspiracy” has been articulated by some Urdu newspapers and clerics like the Shahi Imam of Delhi’s Jama Masjid. This is despite the exhaustive account of Ajmal Kasab, who along with slain terrorist Ismail, shot Karkare, additional commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar. Also, a Mumbai police constable Jadhav, who actually survived the shooting by lying at the back of the qualis commandeered by Kasab and Ismail has given his account of the shooting as well.
Antulay’s blatant attempt to politicise the death of the Mumbai ATS chief at a time when the government was moving harder anti-terror laws may well have sounded the deathknell to the post 26/11 bipartisanship in fighting terrorism. It also places Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in an arkward position. If Antulay continues as a minister without a full retraction, it would mean allowing the minister to undermine the government on the Mumbai attacks.
Antulay’s controversial comments provided fodder for an enraged Opposition. While Shiv Sena’s Anant Geete drew Lok Sabha’s attention to Antulay’s words, triggering a spat with treasury benches, the minister sought to present a defence by saying he had only questioned who had sent the top cops in the direction of Cama hospital when bigger attacks were happening at Taj and Oberoi. He was cut short by Geete that his statement was more categorical and was on TV.
Devendra Yadav demanded that home minister P Chidambaram constitute a “probe on the relation between terror and Sangh Parivar.”
Kasab was arrested in Katmandu in 2006
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kasab_was_arrested_in_Kathmandu_in_2006_Pak_media/videoshow/3844216.cms
There are many good points raised here and must be considered by the investigators before jumping to conclusions.
Someone else said it well: “The Pakistani and the West Asian media have started saying that no Pakistani was involved in 26/11. Next, we will have them saying that there was no 26/11. Finally, we will have some ‘eminently reasonable voice’ saying that the whole thing was a photo shoot for a Bollywood thriller to be shot for Hollywood. One has to admire their ability to describe black as white and killers as saints.”
YO SINO !
now i will repeat what once your compatriot said on this blog about the 26/11
“what do think?
only pakistan is true and the rest of the world is a liar !”
now hear this
“what do think?
only India is true and the rest of the world is a liar !”
history repeating itself eh……
Calling all indians to come out of the box and see the truth and analyze the facts
now please dont say your minister A R Antulay is also a paki agent working for destablization of india
Well done guys!!-
——————————— oh oh forgot to say you guys are so predictable.
all u can indulge in is lies and betrayal and nuclear blackmail.
Come to think of it i want a continuation to this, please let loose your mujhaideens flashing thier ak’s and grenades on innocent, unarmed civilians. Cant wait to see the sanctions imposed on you. i’m sure you’ll do better than Sudan one day.
Hunt with the hound and run with the hare ain’t gonna work for long.
Dear Same-er Shaikh, (You have hyper linked your name with daily times of India.)
You want us to believe that (list is given below) few are not the Separatist and dissident groups pitched against the excessive centralised practices of oppressive Indian regime and that they are simply hatching eggs. They are unable to under take such dramatised action like Bombay massacre.
Go ask them or you may join their ranks; you will certainly come to know—;
At least the salient that;
Who carried out the carnage of 65 Pakistani by attacking Samjhota Express and putting it on fire?
Who carried out the attack on the Indian Parliament?
Killing of Muslims in Gujrat?
Who is killing Christian in thousands?.
Why all kashmiries be subjugated?
Here is along list of about 100 Separatist and dissident groups;
Hindu Terror Groups
1. Shiv Sena – Army of Shiva
2. Bajrang Dal
3. Durga Vahini-Women militants
4. BJP terror group
5. A ragtag, government-armed Hindu militant groups have been raised in Kashmir and northern India during this decade.
Indian Occupied Kashmir
1. Hizbul Mujahideen
2. Harkat-ul-Ansar or Harkat-ul-Jehad-e-Islami
3. Lashkar-e-Toiba
4. Jaish-e-MohammadMujahideen E-Tanzeem
5. Jammu & KashmirLiberation Front
6. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
7. Al Badr
8. Dukhtaran-e-Millat
9. Al Barq
10. Al Jehad
11. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
12. Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army
13. People’s League
14. Muslim JanbazForce
15. Kashmir Jehad Force
16. Al JehadForce (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir
17. Jehad Force
18. Al Umar Mujahideen
19. Mahaz-e-Azadi
20. Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba
21. Jammu & Kashmir StudentsLiebration Front
22. Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen
23. Islamic Students League
24. Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir
25. Mutahida Jehad Council
26. Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria
27. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen
28. Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters
29. Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami
30. Therik-ul-Mujahideen
31. Muslim Mujahideen
32. Al MujahidForce
33. Tehrik-e-Jehad
34. Islami Inquilabi Mahaz
ASSAM
1. Bodo Liberation Tigers (BLT)
2. Dima Halom Daogah (DHD)
3. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
4. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
5. Koch-RajbongshiLiberation Organisation (KRLO)
6. Adivasi Cobra Force(ACF)
7. Karbi People’s Front(KPF)
8. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
9. Bircha Commando Force(BCF)
10. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
11. Adivasi Security Force(ASF)
12. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
13. Gorkha Tiger Force(GTF)
14. Barak Valley YouthLiberation Front (BVYLF)
15. Muslim United LiberationTigers of Assam (MULTA)
16. Muslim United LiberationFront of Assam (MULFA)
17. Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
18. United Liberation Militia ofAssam (ULMA)
19. Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
20. Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
21. Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
22. Muslim Security Force (MSF)
23. Islamic SevakSangh (ISS)
24. Islamic United ReformationProtest of India (IURPI)
25. United Muslim LiberationFront of Assam (UMLFA)
26. Revolutionary MuslimCommandos (RMC)
27. Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
28. People’s UnitedLiberation Front (PULF)
29. Adam Sena(AS)
30. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
31. Harkat-ul-Jehad
NAGALAND
1. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Isak-Muivah)– NSCN(IM)
2. National Socialist Councilof Nagaland (Khaplang)– NSCN (K)
3. Naga NationalCouncil (Adino) – NNC (Adino)
4. Tripura Liberation OrganisationFront (TLOF)
5. United Bengali LiberationFront (UBLF)
6. Tripura TribalVolunteer Force (TTVF)
7. Tripura Armed TribalCommando Force (TATCF)
8. Tripura TribalDemocratic Force (TTDF)
9. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
10. Tripura LiberationForce (TLF)
11. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
12. All TripuraVolunteer Force (ATVF)
13. Tribal Commando Force (TCF)
14. Tripura Tribal YouthForce (TTYF)
15. All TripuraBharat Suraksha Force(ATBSF)
16. Tripura Tribal ActionCommittee Force (TTACF)
17. Socialist Democratic Frontof Tripura (SDFT)
18. All TripuraNational Force (ATNF)
19. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
20. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
21. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)
Meghalaya
1. Hynniewtrep NationalLiberation Council (HNLC)
2. Achik NationalVolunteer Council (ANVC)
3. People’s LiberationFront of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
4. Left-wing Extremists
5. People’s Guerrilla Army
Khokar I have hyperlinked my name with Indiatimes is because I am an INDIAN. I am an Indian Muslim and i am glad i dont live in Pakistan. I cant believe the extent of religious polarisation in Pakistan.
Anyways i seriously dont understand the long list of names you have publised in your blog. Come to think of it they are longer than my grocery list. I don’t want to undermine you efforts but i dont get your argument. BTW why did Nawaz admit Kasab hails from Faridkot in Pakistan and did a 360 on Zardari’s claims. Much like the 360 you did on Taliban when Uncle Sam got angry.
If you can be articulate i would like to answer you. Allah Hafiz.
Dear Sameer Shaikh
lets suppose anatulay is wrong about his claims,
why dont you prove him wrong?
conduct an inqury into his claims then prove him wrong rather then verbally telling him to shut up and rubbishing him,
Why dont you indians do it? it will silence your pakistani critics as well as strenghten your own belief