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		<title>By: Nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/america-lying-about-osama-bin-laden/comment-page-1/#comment-884144</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Berntsen, a CIA Operative, working on Operation Jawbreaker (try to read his book of the same title), was inserted into Afghanistan in order to track down and kill bin Laden, his Al Qaeda operatives, and his Taliban supporters. Berntsen had been part of a CIA team that had been in and out of Afghanistan doing intelligence on bin Laden since the mid-1990's.

In November of 2001, after the initial defeat of the Taliban in the major population centers by the Afghan Northern Alliance, with the assistance of U.S. Special Forces and CIA personnel, Bertsen was given orders to find bin Laden and his "entourage" who had escaped into the mountains bordering Pakistan.

When Berntsen finally located them in the valley of Tora Bora, he contacted CentCom (Central Command at the Pentagon) by Satellite Phone and requested that several hundred U.S. Special Forces troops be inserted into the top of the valley in order to block their escape into Pakistan. Much to his chagrin, he was denied that request, but told that he could have air support (bombing runs). The reasoning was that commanders (and ostensibly, The White House) did not want to risk the potential for high casualties.

Berntsen knew that the cave complex in the area ran deep into the mountains, and was virtually impenetrable from bombs. The Soviets had tried the same tactics in 1989, failed, and left Afghanistan in abject defeat. Nonetheless, using a high-powered lasar-guiding device, he "focused" bombs dropped from B-52's flying at 50,000 feet into the valley and surrounding mountain cave complex.

Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and much of the Taliban leadership escaped over the mountains and into Pakistan. The very objective of the war a colossal failure.

Had Bush and his commanders listened to Berntsen, we would not be fighting this war at the scale we are today. Thus, sometimes neither Presidents nor Generals are right.

I wish same perception we would also dare to apply on our supreme commanders too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Berntsen, a CIA Operative, working on Operation Jawbreaker (try to read his book of the same title), was inserted into Afghanistan in order to track down and kill bin Laden, his Al Qaeda operatives, and his Taliban supporters. Berntsen had been part of a CIA team that had been in and out of Afghanistan doing intelligence on bin Laden since the mid-1990&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In November of 2001, after the initial defeat of the Taliban in the major population centers by the Afghan Northern Alliance, with the assistance of U.S. Special Forces and CIA personnel, Bertsen was given orders to find bin Laden and his &#8220;entourage&#8221; who had escaped into the mountains bordering Pakistan.</p>
<p>When Berntsen finally located them in the valley of Tora Bora, he contacted CentCom (Central Command at the Pentagon) by Satellite Phone and requested that several hundred U.S. Special Forces troops be inserted into the top of the valley in order to block their escape into Pakistan. Much to his chagrin, he was denied that request, but told that he could have air support (bombing runs). The reasoning was that commanders (and ostensibly, The White House) did not want to risk the potential for high casualties.</p>
<p>Berntsen knew that the cave complex in the area ran deep into the mountains, and was virtually impenetrable from bombs. The Soviets had tried the same tactics in 1989, failed, and left Afghanistan in abject defeat. Nonetheless, using a high-powered lasar-guiding device, he &#8220;focused&#8221; bombs dropped from B-52&#8217;s flying at 50,000 feet into the valley and surrounding mountain cave complex.</p>
<p>Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and much of the Taliban leadership escaped over the mountains and into Pakistan. The very objective of the war a colossal failure.</p>
<p>Had Bush and his commanders listened to Berntsen, we would not be fighting this war at the scale we are today. Thus, sometimes neither Presidents nor Generals are right.</p>
<p>I wish same perception we would also dare to apply on our supreme commanders too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazia</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/america-lying-about-osama-bin-laden/comment-page-1/#comment-884136</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not happened first time but our real problem and weakness is that our rulers are worshipers of US.What ever they say it is our matter of death to comply it at all costs.So if US say Osama is here it means he is here.Our greed and slavery attitude has left no option  to go for any other direction for multidimensional ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not happened first time but our real problem and weakness is that our rulers are worshipers of US.What ever they say it is our matter of death to comply it at all costs.So if US say Osama is here it means he is here.Our greed and slavery attitude has left no option  to go for any other direction for multidimensional ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jalal Ahmad</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/america-lying-about-osama-bin-laden/comment-page-1/#comment-884134</link>
		<dc:creator>Jalal Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there is a report today in the The Sun newspaper published from UK that Osama ran away to Afghanistan due to the recent operation in tribal area of Pakistan. While they are suggesting that he is in Afghanistan, the suggestion that he was in Tribal area before running away to Afghanistan in itself is alarming. This makes people think hmm, wait a minute even if he is in Afghanistan now, but he was in  Pakistan before now and all along these guys were blaming Pakistan rightly. So in future if any of these newspapers accuse Pakistan again of Osama's presence people will definitely give them a listening ear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there is a report today in the The Sun newspaper published from UK that Osama ran away to Afghanistan due to the recent operation in tribal area of Pakistan. While they are suggesting that he is in Afghanistan, the suggestion that he was in Tribal area before running away to Afghanistan in itself is alarming. This makes people think hmm, wait a minute even if he is in Afghanistan now, but he was in  Pakistan before now and all along these guys were blaming Pakistan rightly. So in future if any of these newspapers accuse Pakistan again of Osama&#8217;s presence people will definitely give them a listening ear.</p>
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		<title>By: moz</title>
		<link>http://www.pkhope.com/america-lying-about-osama-bin-laden/comment-page-1/#comment-882482</link>
		<dc:creator>moz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were claiming Mullah Omer was in Karachi, not Usama Bin Laden. But I do agree that we nneed to take serious actions to counter these allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were claiming Mullah Omer was in Karachi, not Usama Bin Laden. But I do agree that we nneed to take serious actions to counter these allegations.</p>
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